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The entire republican party runs on cutting funding and services they actually use. The voters are convinced they use no government services and that they are paying for free loaders. Its some really mysterious poo poo.
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Goodpancakes posted:The entire republican party runs on cutting funding and services they actually use. The voters are convinced they use no government services and that they are paying for free loaders. Its some really mysterious poo poo. Cognitive Dissonance is a survival tool for them. Hence why the guy who played Coach could get all indignant about never having to need help even when he was on welfare.
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Aug 5, 2016 07:09
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Goodpancakes posted:The entire republican party runs on cutting funding and services they actually use. The voters are convinced they use no government services and that they are paying for free loaders. Its some really mysterious poo poo. No, it's different! See, this is to support the farmers and ranchers and is totally different from those welfare queens. I don't want them darkies touching /my/ money. (seriously, this is what they believe)
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Aug 5, 2016 07:10
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Being against volcano monitoring is such a bizarrely stupid critically important thing to want to cut, even for a republican from a state without volcanoes.
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Aug 5, 2016 08:08
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I remember Sarah Palin talking poo poo about research into fruit fly chromosomes and someone in that field replied that it was actually valuable for understanding Downs Syndrome...
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Aug 5, 2016 10:10
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Rick_Hunter posted:Bolded part is exactly why he doesn't care. If it doesn't benefit him or the state personally then it's not worth it like hurricane relief for the Gulf of Mexico is required but gently caress those New Yorkers and Hurricane Sandy. Even direct benefits rarely matter. "Fiscal responsibility" (i.e. "slashing everything but military budgets") wins points with the base. Critical thinking or less exciting projects do not.
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Aug 5, 2016 13:44
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Goodpancakes posted:The entire republican party runs on cutting funding and services they actually use. The voters are convinced they use no government services and that they are paying for free loaders. Its some really mysterious poo poo. Well that and privatizing everything so that companies you just happen to have a stake in get to skim a ton off the top while providing the same service and treating workers worse
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Aug 5, 2016 16:21
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Geostomp posted:Even direct benefits rarely matter. "Fiscal responsibility" (i.e. "slashing everything but military budgets") wins points with the base. Critical thinking or less exciting projects do not. That or you get "x should be funded only by donations and charity." They're totally ok with somebody giving millions to some cause or another but when the government spends the same amount on it then it's theft. They couch it in freedom but really it's a mix of "not my problem" and "taxes are spent on things I am not currently benefitting from directly." They seriously believe at times that stuff like for profit emergency services are a totally sane and good idea.
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Aug 5, 2016 22:16
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some of it is bigotry. lee atwater invented the strategy and was upfront about it. someone can't outright say "those blacks grumble grumble" any more and still be considered a polite upstanding politician, so you have to say things like "cut wasteful spending" and "welfare reform". the thing i find interesting about this is that there are a lot of politicians and voters out there who don't even understand this, so they genuinely think that people calling them bigots is wrong. and it may actually be wrong, for some or even many of them. but the part that isn't wrong is that those code-words are still received by the ears of bigots in that way. so even someone who is genuinely a really nice person can inadvertently appeal to a KKK member's hatred 
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Aug 5, 2016 22:37
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Lutha Mahtin posted:some of it is bigotry. lee atwater invented the strategy and was upfront about it. someone can't outright say "those blacks grumble grumble" any more and still be considered a polite upstanding politician, so you have to say things like "cut wasteful spending" and "welfare reform". Until they start misappropriating New France's rifles they'll never properly be Bigots
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Aug 5, 2016 23:21
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"I don't want to help blah people." -A man whose personality can be summed up by a v neck sweater with a tie.
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Aug 6, 2016 02:23
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corn in the bible posted:Until they start misappropriating New France's rifles they'll never properly be Bigots Belgian rifles work the same way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJAsdTGX-9Y
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Aug 6, 2016 04:43
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Tardcore posted:Didn't Trump call these dudes terrorists too? The lot of them are hosed. Yeah, like the Orange One doesn't flipflop or backpedal. None the less I don't see that happening. These guys really aren't that important a block to suck dick for
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Aug 7, 2016 01:00
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FilthyImp posted:No, they know exactly what they use and how they need it. Remember when Sandy hit and all of a sudden the abolish FEMA folk came walking up to Washington with their hats in hand? Even better GOP congressmen in the south demanded the feds pay for hurricane relief but blocked the Sandy bill because it would increase the deficit.
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iospace posted:No, it's different! See, this is to support the farmers and ranchers and is totally different from those welfare queens. I don't want them darkies touching /my/ money. Reminds me of a conversation with a conservative that was against social healthcare I had on Topix once. Said he had to go to the emergency room and was bitching how he had no insurance and his bills were like 20k. I told him that'd be the great part about social healthcare. When you need care, you don't get stuck with a bill like that after. The argument of elective surgeries popped up, like that can't be regulated within the program. He finished off with "Well, they aren't getting anything from me, I don't make enough to pay this bill". When it was pointed out that's part of the reason healthcare costs so damned much and for a conservative that's not very financially responsible, his reply was "tough". So there you have it, these morons are willing to vote against their own interests as long as it prevents others from having it. They're that kid on the playground that gets mad, grabs his ball and goes home. ToxicSlurpee posted:That or you get "x should be funded only by donations and charity." They're totally ok with somebody giving millions to some cause or another but when the government spends the same amount on it then it's theft. There was a fire department out in Oregon or some such that was doing that. You paid them a fee every year so the family could live off it and in turn they promised to put out fires for you. the place was such a run down poo poo show with aged equipment from the 50's and 60's that broke down so often they earned a rep for never being there when you needed them Ah, here it is, Grant's Pass http://my.firefighternation.com/forum/topics/the-worst-fire-company-in-america SocketWrench has issued a correction as of 01:27 on Aug 7, 2016 |
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Aug 7, 2016 01:22
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SocketWrench posted:Yeah, like the Orange One doesn't flipflop or backpedal. None the less I don't see that happening. These guys really aren't that important a block to suck dick for actually this is almost the entirety of trump's natural voting bloc, is white dudes who are sympathetic to the yall-queda
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Aug 7, 2016 01:59
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cumshitter posted:There is footage of Bobby Jindal out there saying "I'm the sheriff, and what I say goes!" in a really, really bad attempt to slam Obama for overreaching his Constitutional authority. It was one of those immensely awkward GOP rebuttal to the State of the Union speeches where, after watching Obama stand before Congress, they follow it up by having some doofus stand directly in front of a camera like a shy 3rd grader who recorded his speech for class. the democrats do it too when theyre out of the wh, and its always gotta be some local goober because all the important people in both parties are at the sotui e i mean jindal is terrible but the sotu response is, weak as it naturally is. roughly half of whats left of equal time. the remainder, of course, being whatever nonsense david brooks wants to spout on pbs this week
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Aug 7, 2016 03:37
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Lutha Mahtin posted:actually this is almost the entirety of trump's natural voting bloc, is white dudes who are sympathetic to the yall-queda Perhaps some that do want him have those same beliefs, but they're held together by much more common and stronger beliefs like racism and bigotry, along with not a democrat and certainly not a Clinton. By the time the Orange One has the power to do anything for them he won't need them and toss them aside anyways. As much as they like to play up the "one of us" vibe, he's still a rich, entitled sociopath that got where he is by treating people like a commodity.
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SocketWrench posted:Perhaps some that do want him have those same beliefs, but they're held together by much more common and stronger beliefs like racism and bigotry, along with not a democrat and certainly not a Clinton. By the time the Orange One has the power to do anything for them he won't need them and toss them aside anyways. As much as they like to play up the "one of us" vibe, he's still a rich, entitled sociopath that got where he is by treating people like a commodity. Yes, but they'll support him so long as they see him strike out at the Enemy. That's the one thing they really care about : proving themselves right by hurting someone different than themselves. It's the whole reason they buy into he Orange One's obvious bullshit and the fact that he's the embodiment of what the religion they claim to support denounces and why they reject support solely because the Other would also benefit.
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Or, you know, they understand he's the most conservative option and are voting for him in much the way a leftist would vote for Hillary. If you are socially conservative then that's kind of an obvious choice to make. Like yeah obviously trump ain't gonna be legitimizing sovcit ideas but he might pick a justice that hates the gays
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corn in the bible posted:Or, you know, they understand he's the most conservative option and are voting for him in much the way a leftist would vote for Hillary. If you are socially conservative then that's kind of an obvious choice to make. plus, Trump is most likely to incite the holy (/race) war they've all been waiting for
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corn in the bible posted:Or, you know, they understand he's the most conservative option and are voting for him in much the way a leftist would vote for Hillary. If you are socially conservative then that's kind of an obvious choice to make. I seriously doubt it's just because he's the best option, since all the other party nominees viewed stuff the same or even more right than the Orange One, they just didn't blatantly state racist, sexist, and bigoted beliefs. Even strongly conservative people are tossing the Orange One because of those reasons. Hell, the Harvard Republicans aren't voting for him and they've voted straight republican for some 130 years. Even other groups that were going Trump are backing away from him now and reducing their votes to "Anyone but Clinton" and likewise there's a bunch of leftists out there that wanted Bernie and won't vote hillary. Summing the whole thing up to "righty votes right" is being incredibly ignorant to what's actually going on SocketWrench has issued a correction as of 03:40 on Aug 8, 2016 |
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JJ MacNabb, on Russia's role in the whole mess: https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/762384723859546112 https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/762384933847314433 https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/762385955168727040 https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/762386358614622209
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To me that just shows that Russian media is great at producing clickbait for right-wing conspiracy theorists more than anything else.
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Aug 8, 2016 20:55
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Internet Webguy posted:To me that just shows that Russian media is great at producing clickbait for FTFY Lots of left leaning people also believe the russian generated conspiracy theory bullshit
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A Winner is Jew posted:FTFY Case in point where the two intersect... Zeroisanumber posted:Putin, Jill Stein, and Donald Trump's military advisor Michael Flynn attending dinner for RT.
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Aug 8, 2016 21:25
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There are useful idiots of all political stripes and leanings.
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Aug 8, 2016 22:02
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SocketWrench posted:I seriously doubt it's just because he's the best option, since all the other party nominees viewed stuff the same or even more right than the Orange One, they just didn't blatantly state racist, sexist, and bigoted beliefs. Even strongly conservative people are tossing the Orange One because of those reasons. Hell, the Harvard Republicans aren't voting for him and they've voted straight republican for some 130 years. anyone but clinton is trump tho pmuch
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Aug 8, 2016 23:16
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Dr. Killjoy posted:There are useful idiots of all political stripes and leanings. I wouldn't call them useful though. The opposite of that word would be appropriate.
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Aug 8, 2016 23:17
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corn in the bible posted:anyone but clinton is trump tho pmuch Yeah, I suppose, if you like ignore everything they say and do, spray a coating of racing orange on them, and play a voice recording of Trump over them
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Aug 9, 2016 05:08
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I would think that Corn was commenting more on the US's two party system.
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Aug 9, 2016 12:38
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SocketWrench posted:Yeah, I suppose, if you like ignore everything they say and do, spray a coating of racing orange on them, and play a voice recording of Trump over them or if you look at the people who are going to win: if not clinton, then trump
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Aug 9, 2016 19:09
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According to his wife on Facebook Jon Ritzheimer is pleading guilty. Sounds like they offered him a good enough deal to roll on all the others.
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Aug 9, 2016 19:09
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Your Gay Uncle posted:According to his wife on Facebook Jon Ritzheimer is pleading guilty. Sounds like they offered him a good enough deal to roll on all the others. I think he already pled guilty earlier this year. Edit: Nvm, I think I got him confused with Blaine Cooper. Rick_Hunter has issued a correction as of 19:54 on Aug 9, 2016 |
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Aug 9, 2016 20:04
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Translation: 'our lawyer has said that we might be able to get a deal out of this.'
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Aug 9, 2016 20:13
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He's definitely going full snitch to get off the hook. Getting all of these guys at once was definitely a big blow to their entire "organization"
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Aug 9, 2016 20:32
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Time to move the goalposts for what 'winning' means! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxaJY8UZxn4
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Aug 9, 2016 20:39
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red19fire posted:Time to move the goalposts for what 'winning' means! lol white people
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Tangential to this whole thing, Trump just gave the movement a shot in the arm while probably making his biggest gaffe yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcxkkrNSv-4
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