USPOL August: Quoth The Donald, "Arzy more."

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twistedmentat: Nov 21, 2003; Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Lets say someone takes a shot at Clinton, and it's found that the guy was directly influanced by what Trump said, what happens? I mean the RWM can spin it either as a lone nut or a plant, but the Secret Service and FBI don't use Hannity or Jones as their sources of information.

I tried to find it any presidential candidates have every committed a serious crime during the election but I was unable so no clue.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:03

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QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

Eschers Basement posted:

So, the Trump campaign released a statement:

Is it just me, or is it notable that nowhere it that statement do they actually say "No, he was not calling for violence against his opponent"?

If you think that the statement is saying "yeah it's fine to go ahead and kill Hillary" then no, that's not notable. Acknowledging that Trump's statement was an obvious call for someone to shoot Clinton does the opposite of what this statement is trying to accomplish, there's nothing more to read out of it than that.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:03

MattD1zzl3: Oct 26, 2007; Can't post for 4 years!

FactsAreUseless posted:

The Weird White Supremacist Rachel Maddow Fan

Mods change my name to...

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:05

Kanine: Aug 5, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

https://twitter.com/StephenMarche/status/763148947988713472

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:05

FuzzySlippers: Feb 6, 2009

QuarkJets posted:

You can't just place all of the blame on any one thing, obviously, but it's not like anyone has a time machine and can just go tell Gore to run a better campaign. But they can possibly convince left-leaning 3rd party voters to not passively let a Republican roll into office, and there's nothing wrong with trying to do that.

That's only if you can make a case for there being a difference to someone on the far left for one candidate over the other winning. In 2000 contrasting Bill with Bush Sr and contrasting Gore with W during the campaign it was easy to wash your hands of all the bastards.

However in the last 16 years we've seen the dems drift a little back left of center while the Republicans hurled themselves into right wing lunacy. So yeah in 2016 if you are willing to risk the apocalypse to maintain your lefty purity that is crazy.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:07

Bluemillion: Aug 18, 2008; I got your dispensers
right here

Geostomp posted:

Anybody get the feeling that they've somehow managed to wake up in a lazily written parody of politics?

Uh yeah, feelin' like I'm in the writings of a high school student right now. A poli sci student wouldn't be writing this.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:08

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Kanine posted:

https://twitter.com/StephenMarche/status/763148947988713472

Nixon def

Publicly? Not sure.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:08

zonohedron: Aug 14, 2006

zoux posted:

Yeah it forces the RNC to actually have to decide whether to expend resources in what should be hard red states or risk piling on to a humiliating landslide.

I have a landline, so I get political calls, and I'm a stay-at-home mom, so I'm home during the prime 'annoy retirees' calling hours. Yesterday and today I've gotten three Trump ad calls.

...I live in Texas, and it's only August. How many a day will it be in October, 90?

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:09

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.

Bluemillion posted:

Uh yeah, feelin' like I'm in the writings of a high school student right now. A poli sci student wouldn't be writing this.

Trump's campaign feels like someone trying to forcefully write a Mary Sue into reality, no matter how hard reality rejects it.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:11

DoctorWhat: Nov 18, 2011; A little privacy, please?

MattD1zzl3 posted:

This 2nd amendment gaffe is a great chance to point out something thats been bugging me all election. What trump says, how i take it, and how its taken.

Direct Trump quote:Thank you. It�s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they�re not sending their best. They�re not sending you. They�re not sending you. They�re sending people that have lots of problems, and they�re bringing those problems with us. They�re bringing drugs. They�re bringing crime. They�re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

What i heard: "Someone willing to risk their life and fortune to subvert the legal immigration process is likely to be someone who would be weeded out by it, we should enforce our borders better".

What you heard: All mexicans are rapists, white power!

Direct Trump quote:"If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although the Second Amendment people�maybe there is. I don't know."

What i heard: Hillary is going to gently caress the second amendment sideways, if you care about this vote against her.

What you heard: Someone please shoot hillary.

(Frankly "What i heard" could just as easily be "What he should have said", but really, what do you expect from a candidate from queens)

man, i remember when you were just really really dumb and backwards about doctor who

DoctorWhat fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Aug 10, 2016

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:14

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

FuzzySlippers posted:

That's only if you can make a case for there being a difference to someone on the far left for one candidate over the other winning. In 2000 contrasting Bill with Bush Sr and contrasting Gore with W during the campaign it was easy to wash your hands of all the bastards.

However in the last 16 years we've seen the dems drift a little back left of center while the Republicans hurled themselves into right wing lunacy. So yeah in 2016 if you are willing to risk the apocalypse to maintain your lefty purity that is crazy.

Gore and W were substantially different, though. At that point you're just talking to someone with no grounding in reality and you should probably walk away (this suggestion applies to people arguing with 3rd party voters who think that Clinton and Trump are equivalent)

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:15

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

Can't believe Trump suggests someone to kill Hillary when he should be worried about el chapo killing his rear end

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:15

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

DoctorWhat posted:

man, i remember when you were just really really dumb and backwards about doctor who

I am curious as to what bad Dr. Who opinions sound like

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:16

Geostomp: Oct 22, 2008; Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

twistedmentat posted:

Lets say someone takes a shot at Clinton, and it's found that the guy was directly influanced by what Trump said, what happens? I mean the RWM can spin it either as a lone nut or a plant, but the Secret Service and FBI don't use Hannity or Jones as their sources of information.

I tried to find it any presidential candidates have every committed a serious crime during the election but I was unable so no clue.

Depends on race, mostly. If white, which is almost certain, then he will be labeled a lone nut and used as proof that even more guns are needed. The NRA will see sales spike again, and we'll go right back to business as usual as is possible.

Trump, however, changes things. If he had any sense whatsoever, he'd play along and let it all pass. Since he's an idiot and a narcissist, he'll do anything to get on the air, slap fight with anyone who dares question him, and likely give not-so-subtle hints for his followers to do the same again. If left long enough, I would like to think he'd do so much damage to the right wing that we might have a chance to see some actual legislation on guns passing.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:17

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I am curious as to what bad Dr. Who opinions sound like

Open any Dr Who thread and randomly read any post there

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:18

Koalas March: May 21, 2007

DoctorWhat posted:

man, i remember when you were just really really dumb and backwards about doctor who

wait let me guess his dr who opinions:

Martha Jones was the worst companion

Capt Jack was too gay/why are they shoving this down people's throats??

The Doctor can't be black and/or a woman

Moffat is a good showrunner/writer

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:20

Buckwheat Sings: Feb 9, 2005

Bluemillion posted:

Kansas. Mother. loving. Kansas. Is this even real life?
Is this my reward for enduring the W years and following economic disaster?(Please don't start a Derail about W's effect on the economy, ffs.)

Isn't Kansas becoming even more of an economic wasteland due to being a republican playground of poo poo government? Maybe people are getting fed up with eating poo poo there.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:21

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Koalas March posted:

The Doctor can't be black and/or a woman

I was always disappointed they gave Maisie Williams a prominent role in the show because she would have been a really good doctor

thats like my one Doctor Who opinion cheers

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:23

Le Saboteur: Dec 5, 2007; I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..

I think Trump and his people have now swerved this statement 3 times. https://twitter.com/ChrisSnyderFox/status/763153178133168128

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:24

Prester Jane: Nov 4, 2008; by Hand Knit

I remain in the midst of a cross country move and am thus unable to give a detailed analysis on Donald Trump. In lieu of that I will just quote myself from two months ago as I feel that events have developed quite in line with my projections.

Prester Jane posted:

Note: Posted this in the USPOL thread but crossposting it here as well.

I have received several messages from Goons asking about my opinion Re: how Trump will handle the pressure of a real General election. I have (with permission) reprinted one of those messages here so that I can properly address the subject.

To explain my analysis of what the impending Trump meltdown will look like (I am quite certain we are going to witness the rare instance of a narcissist dropping their mask and revealing their true ugliness, and I think we are going to witness it on live TV) I will first need to elaborate a bit on my perception of who Trump is and how his conflict with Hillary will play out.

As mentioned in earlier posts, Trump is a clinical narcissist. While many people understand that this means �a very selfish individual� I would like to explain that clinical Narcissism is a bit more complicated than that.

narcissist�s have at a deep psychological level a fundamental disconnect between reality and themselves. Specifically, they are completely unable to perceive themselves. narcissists have no self image, and no concept of a self image. They have no self awareness whatsoever. They are literally unable to think of themselves in the first person as you and I understand it. Their experience of reality is wholly different from our experience of reality as a result. They cannot perceive themselves or acquire information about themselves in any way except in the reactions of people around them. narcissists are often portrayed as obsessively staring into a mirror, and this is honestly a somewhat inaccurate way of portraying them in my view. narcissists are indeed staring intently into a mirror, but that mirror is the faces of the people around them. narcissists are like vampires in that they have no reflection in the mirror, they cannot see themselves. To think of it another way- the only surface that reflects a narcissists image is the faces of other people. And so they stare intently into the faces of others in order to see themselves.

If a narcissist is unable to see themselves they experience an unending sense of dread, a terror that they are artificial, not real. To relieve this sense of dread a narcissist is strongly compelled to force those around them to acknowledge them in some way, to react to them. (The stronger the reaction, the better, which is in large part what can compel the narcissist to such extremes of behavior) Watching people react to the narcissist provides them with relief to the immense and indescribable sense of dread the narcissist feels from being unable to think of themselves in a normal first person fashion. Not ONLY does this provide relief, but it can potentially also provide a massive rush of all the natural feel good drugs the human brain can produce. The sensation gained from these natural feel good chemicals being pumped through the narcissist�s body is what is called narcissistic Supply. (Hereafter referred to simply as �Supply�.)

All narcissists have a delusional and exaggerated false image of themselves that they cherish internally. While a narcissist is compelled to get a reaction (any reaction will do) from those around them in order to avoid the sense of dread that is the narcissist� default mode, if the narcissist is able to generate a reaction in others that is consistent with the delusional self image the narcissist carries internally, then the narcissist not only finds relief from their identity crises, but they experience a powerful drug-like euphoria. This euphoric feeling is intensely energizing, the narcissist feels like an invincible Godbeing that can change the entire world according to their personal whim. narcissists are ADDICTS to this sensation first and foremost, and the behavior of a narcissist is best understood as that of an addict. The worst kind of addict at that- the kind of addict that has completely lost themselves to their drug. A narcissist is like an empty shell-human running on autopilot, a complicated meat calculator that exists only to experience pleasure (which can only be experienced while under the effects of Supply) and devotes itself exclusively to that goal. There is nothing else to the world of the narcissist except obtaining Supply, or if Supply is not available, then the narcissist will be instantly overcome by the horrendous sense of dread that is their true existence and will do whatever it takes to force a reaction from those around them in order to find relief from this dread.

To understand the behavior of a narcissist then it is important to recognize that what reactions generate Supply vary considerably from narcissist to narcissist. Think of it like this, a narcissist cannot see themselves except by using the faces of others as a mirror. If a narcissist does not have a mirror handy, they experience a tremendous sense of dread, so they will find a mirror (face of another) to stare into and they will do whatever it takes in order to get that mirror�s attention. The reflection the Narcissist sees in the mirror is a reflection of the behavior of the narcissist, and the reflection changes as a result. There is a specific reflection that the narcissist wishes to see, a specific way of seeing themselves reflected in others- the delusional false image that the narcissist carries of themselves. If they can see this particular image of themselves, then they experience the powerful euphoria of Supply. The idea here then is while any mirror and any reflection of themselves will do in order to avoid the sense of dread, seeing the deified version of themselves reflected in the faces of others is what the narcissist is truly seeking- it is their drug.

Supply then can be thought of as a potent and astonishingly addictive drug, a drug that generates a sensation of Godlike invulnerability and confidence, but more importantly for our discussion Supply is a drug where withdrawal symptoms set in instantly. That is to say, the very moment the rush of Supply is denied a narcissist, they instantly feel the full weight of the existential dread that is their true existence. They will seek more Supply immediately, and if unable to obtain Supply then they will resort to staving off the dread by generating a reaction in those around them. Think of a narcissist this way: They are a heroin addict that is addicted to a unique kind of heroin. This kind of heroin sets in instantly, and obtains its full euphoric peak instantly. This kind of Heroin has no overdose risk, the higher the dose the greater the pleasure, so cook the biggest dose you can afford every time. The drawback is that as soon as the dose wears off, the full power of opiate withdrawal sets in instantly. So those addicted to this specific kind of heroin go from experiencing the immense euphoria of a heroin high to experiencing the hellish depths of heroin withdrawal in the space of a single heartbeat. Also in the case of our special kind of heroin here, if an addict is experiencing withdrawal they can at least find relief from the withdrawal by abusing another opiate. It won�t get them high, but it will at least allow them to function.
One final unique quality to this special heroin is something I will call �peak tolerance�. What this term is describing is the idea that once a certain �peak�, or a certain level of euphoria is experienced on this heroin, tolerance builds in such a way that any lesser of a peak is muted and almost impossible to enjoy. It is sort of like enjoying a really good cookie, and being almost unable to find any pleasure at all from any cookie that is not at least as good for the rest of your life. narcissist experience peak tolerance in that once they have hit a certain peak of euphoria from Supply, they lose the ability to really enjoy a peak that is any less euphoric. It will always feel inadequate, and they will feel slightly cheated and will be driven to seek more Supply of a higher quality very quickly.
Returning to the discussion at hand, having the false image they project of themselves validated then is what creates a literal drug like state (Supply) the Narcissist orients their entire existence towards obtaining. Exactly what that false self image looks like varies from narcissist to narcissist, and is heavily influenced by personal power fantasies known only to the individual narcissist. Not every narcissist thinks themselves a hero, some narcissist relish being a villain and obtain Supply by being hated. Broadly speaking then, supply can be either �positive� (adulation) or �negative� (hatred) in nature, depending upon the taste of the individual narcissist. Some narcissists need negative Supply (Martin Shkreli) and base their lives around being publicly despised, some narcissists prefer positive Supply (Trump) and base their lives around having a godlike image of themselves be acknowledged as the truth (In Trump�s case he projects an image of �SUCCESS� without any nuance beyond that), still other narcissists need a balanced mixture (Milo Yiannapolis) of both positive and negative Supply- as a result they base their lives around being worshiped by their friends and hated/feared/loathed by their enemies.

Few narcissists are ever able to obtain enough Supply to prevent ever running out, they often live their lives constantly on the prowl for whatever Supply they can scrounge, learning to be patient predators if need be. A cycle of feast and famine comes to typify the existence of a narcissist and their unending quest for Supply, which they consume the first moment they can. Given the opportunity a narcissist will gorge themselves on Supply, they will consume as much as they can whenever the opportunity presents itself, and they will spend all their time and effort looking to obtain more Supply whenever they run out. They are consumption machines without much self control, they simply indulge in their drug whenever and wherever possible. Every once in a while a narcissist will hit upon a vein of Supply that can keep them high as a kite for months strait, and presented with the opportunity a narcissist will binge without hesitation. The binge will last until either the Supply runs out (most common) or the body of the narcissist cracks under the abuse of being constantly high on brain chemicals.

Like any other drug addict on a binge, a narcissist bingeing on Supply will eventually crash. The process takes much longer than normal with a narcissist than it does with other drugs for a few reasons, but the process is just as inevitable as it is with any other addict on a binge. First off, understand that to a narcissist their body is nothing but a tool to obtain Supply, and they only care for it insomuch as it is useful towards that purpose. As a result of this a narcissist can tolerate immense pain and easily push their bodies to the point of physical collapse if it is in the service of obtaining Supply. (That is to say, all the normal internal warning bells that would cause a normal person to stop physically pushing themselves can be simply ignored by a narcissist right up until they literally lose consciousness from exhaustion.) Next, another important reason that narcissistic binge can last many months is because it is ultimately caused by the bodies normal feel good chemicals, as a result tolerance builds much more slowly and fatigue sets in at a much more gradual pace.
That said, the process is just as inevitable as it is with any other addict on a binge- tolerance will build and the consequences of inadequate sleep will weaken the body. Even with theoretically infinite Supply a narcissist will eventually crash, if from nothing else than from sheer physical exhaustion. Their bodies will at some point simply give out, and leading up to that point is a long period of the euphoria and endless energy of Supply going from a 24/7 sensation, to weakening and then sputtering out to emptiness. As a narcissist begins to crash they make mistakes much more often because they are fatigued, and they become much more aggressive in their pursuit of Supply because they don�t experience even a fraction of the peaks they used too and they are internally panicked at then prospect.

Consider for a moment that at the start of his campaign, Trump could still make tactical concessions if he overplayed his hand. Remember this moment when Trump patted Ted Cruz on the back?

Trump jumped the gun and attacked Ted Cruz too early, he was roundly rebuffed by everyone from Rush Limbaugh to Anne Coulter. Trump had enough tactical sense to abandon that tactic when it was failing him. Compare this with the present whereby Trump is sticking to his guns on the judge Curiel attack despite it backfiring- Trump has been on a binge for a year now and fatigue is setting in, he is making mistakes because he is tired.
Trump has been on the highest high of his entire life for a year solid now- as a result of the Supply he has obtained by running for President. He has probably only been sleeping 4-5 hours per night in that entire time, because he is absolutely compelled to indulge in as much Supply as he possibly can. Why is Donald Trump tweeting up a storm at 3 in the morning? Because Donald Trump is getting his before bedtime fix of Supply, and he is shooting himself up until he blacks out � like he always does. Why is Donald Trump running his campaign like he is the King and his advisers are nobles that must squabble with each other for the King�s favor? Because the whole purpose of Trump�s staff is to provide him with Supply, and nothing else. (Trump isn't building a Presidential campaign, he doesn't know how and he doesn't care.) Trump is building a group of people who will convince TRUMP that he is running a real Presidential campaign. And that is all he is capable of doing. Trump is fundamentally unable to run a real Presidential campaign, he doesn't understand the concept of it anymore than he understands Swahili.

So to understand my analysis of the situation at present with regards to Trump and to understand where Trump is going to take all this I had to get all of that out of the way first, its very important to understand exactly what a narcissist is and why they operate in the fashion that they do.

At present I perceive signs of fatigue setting in with Trump, both physical fatigue and �Peak Tolerance� as well. Trump has been on the greatest binge of narcissistic Supply in recorded history, but his body is burning out now. He cannot feel the energy or euphoria that he felt for months solid quite like he used too, and he is making unforced tactical errors because he is fatigued. Trump�s fatigue combined with his (subconscious, but real) growing fear that he can�t feel the rush of Supply anymore he will begin to lash out. Whereas Trump was very good at picking targets to fight with in the past, binge fatigue Trump is going to increasingly start to just lash out randomly. Trump the charming nice guy requires high levels of Supply in order to exist, as Trump loses both his access to Supply (Trump needs almost pure adulation, and the press is not cooperating anymore like it used too) as well as his ability to enjoy what dwindling Supply he can acquire Trump is going to spiral out of control. Gone will be the famous charisma/rapier wit and in its place will be hot rage and accusations. Trump will feel cheated on a deep and subconscious level because Trump does not understand why he isn't experiencing the rush of Supply anymore, to Trump the euphoria of Supply is his �True Self�, the birthright he is owed for being such a godlike being. The euphoria if Supply is what Donald Trump bases his sense of identity on, without access to Supply his charisma will wither. He will feel as if he has had his true self forcefully taken from him, and he will seek a target to vent his anger at. The further this goes, the more any old target will do and the less selective he will be.

Where then is all this going to end up? I�ve gotten many requests both public and private to elaborate on my thoughts on the endpoint for a Trump campaign, and I have been very reluctant to respond. At this point however I think that events are progressed enough that what I am about to say will not seem nearly as outlandish as it would have sounded 6 months ago.

Basically, at this point Trump is in a tail spin that there is no escape from, this will all end very likely with Trump in prison for inciting riots/pockets of civil unrest. Trump has bought into his own hype and has convinced himself that he is the next POTUS, he has drunk deeply of the Supply of believing that he will be the most powerful person in the world. After experiencing that, there is no more getting high on Supply for Donald J Trump ever again. That is the ultimate �peak tolerance�, no Supply will ever be enough again. Trump is basing his life right now on creating an illusion that convinces primarily himself that he is leading a populist revolt against a corrupt political system, and Trump has already promised himself that he will be the amazing hero that sweeps into power and sets things right with but a wave of his talented hands. There is no plan for Trump beyond the expectation that he is the next POTUS, he already feels entitled too it, it already is a possession to him. It belongs to him and no one else. When it is taken away from him, he will react like the manchild addict that he is, he will incite violence.

I wish it were not so, but I honestly cannot conceive of any scenario whereby Trump loses without trying to start a civil war. I�m not kidding, I think he will try to start one. I�m certain he won�t come close to succeeding, but he is going be deluded enough to think he can win, angry and entitled enough to try, and it will be the only path to power (Supply) he will see at that point. On top of that, once his defeat is official, shitloads of his supporters + significant portions of the militia movement will be calling for open violence anyways, he will just be echoing what his most vociferous supporters want.

What happens after that is hard to predict, because it is hard to know exactly when Trump�s full meltdown will come. It could be election night, it could be after he gets humiliated by Hillary Clinton on live television while 50+ million people watch. (We could see a full narcissistic Rage on the debate stage, Trump physically moving towards Hillary while calling her a oval office and threatening to have her killed is the most extreme scenario here but it has a real chance of happening.) It could be when the GOP does something at the RNC to assert its power over him in some way. Any of these scenario�s are possible, and there are certainly scenario�s that would trigger his full meltdown that I can�t begin to guess at.

What happens when Trump does call for violence will depend on what the exact circumstances are that surround the situation when it happens as well as how much those calls are echoed. Various Christian church�s are openly agitating/preparing themselves for civil unrest, and they are being openly egged on by their leaders. See these videos :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjjfTbzo3Ic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsY09CJkX3g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrPtz4-Ag0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGExtHuLtM4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4iGkbGso3E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaeJafw9Jms

We also have a situation where elected officials are doing the same thing. See Michele Fiore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw_HUHOtGM4

Over time we can reasonably expect this trend of all-but-openly inciting violence to continue and progressively worsen as the Trump campaign drags on.

So to conclude then we have a coming situation where a leader of an extremist political faction is going to be rebuffed from power and will likely react with calls for violence, and those calls are very likely to be echoed by an unpredictable number of religious leaders and elected officials. What happens then is impossible to say, who knows how many nutballs are really willing to answer the call and how many are just talk? Most of course are just talk, but there may be as many as a few thousand spread across the US that are willing to take it past talk if presented with the right circumstances.

I cannot really begin to guess what will happen once Trump�s meltdown occurs, nor can I really anticipate when his meltdown will happen at this point, although I might be able to spot the final warning signs right before it happens. I only hope that Trump continues to discredit himself as much as possible, the more his antics shake off his less hardcore supporters, the fewer supporters that will be potentially swept up into the inevitable endgame of all this.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:24

Koalas March: May 21, 2007

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I was always disappointed they gave Maisie Williams a prominent role in the show because she would have been a really good doctor

thats like my one Doctor Who opinion cheers

lol I stopped watching after Martha left and then watched Torchwood til that ended. I sat through 9 seasons of Stargate, all of Farscape and every Star Trek except for Enterprise and just can't get through Dr Who for whatever reason. it's not for me.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:27

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

Buckwheat Sings posted:

Isn't Kansas becoming even more of an economic wasteland due to being a republican playground of poo poo government? Maybe people are getting fed up with eating poo poo there.

Yes

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:27

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Koalas March posted:

lol I stopped watching after Martha left and then watched Torchwood til that ended. I sat through 9 seasons of Stargate, all of Farscape and every Star Trek except for Enterprise and just can't get through Dr Who for whatever reason. it's not for me.

I watch a season everytime I get a new girlfriend and she's mad I am not caught up

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:28

Crow Jane: Oct 18, 2012; nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

How can anyone listen to or read the way he speaks and not think it sounds like the rantings of an insane person :psyduck:

? Why do people want this person to be President?

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:28

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

Prester Jane posted:

I remain in the midst of a cross country move and am thus unable to give a detailed analysis on Donald Trump. In lieu of that I will just quote myself from two months ago as I feel that events have developed quite in line with my projections.

It's scary how accurate you've been.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:29

Teriyaki Hairpiece: Dec 29, 2006; I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

The sad fact is that, no matter what Trump says, it's literally impossible that less than 50 million Americans will vote for him.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:29

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

It seems like Trump has been making a lot of "powerful movements" on various stages around the country

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:30

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Crow Jane posted:

How can anyone listen to or read the way he speaks and not think it sounds like the rantings of an insane person ? Why do people want this person to be President?

Half the nation has an IQ below 100. 37% of Americans have never lived outside their hometown. The world is a big scary complex place that a sizeable portion of the country doesn't have the facilities to understand and they flock to someone who can put it into simple and comprehensible terms

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:31

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Crow Jane posted:

How can anyone listen to or read the way he speaks and not think it sounds like the rantings of an insane person ? Why do people want this person to be President?

a solid third of americans proudly wallow in ignorance and/or have learning disabilities

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:33

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Crow Jane posted:

How can anyone listen to or read the way he speaks and not think it sounds like the rantings of an insane person ? Why do people want this person to be President?

Because when insane people hear Trump speak he sounds like the voice of reason to them.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:33

axeil: Feb 14, 2006

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I watch a season everytime I get a new girlfriend and she's mad I am not caught up

I was watching and then they took it off Netflix so I guess now I'll never know what happens to Matt Smith's Doctor.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:34

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

Doctor Who is popular because it's highly serialized and super dumb. I've seen like a dozen episodes and that's the only takeaway I had.

Sort of like how people can be big fans of early X-Files

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:34

Technogeek: Sep 9, 2002; by FactsAreUseless

So, while Donald Trump was making certain implications about the necessity of the assassination of his opponent, Vilerat's mother continues to make terrible "it's Hillary KKKlinton's fault" arguments. Bonus points for including Orly Taitz-grade lawyers in this one!

Ed Brayton posted:

Larry Klayman, the dumbest lawyer in America not named Mat Staver, has filed yet another lawsuit that will be dismissed almost immediately. It�s on behalf of the parents of two of the people killed in the Benghazi attack, for wrongful death and defamation.

Klayman makes the rather bizarre argument that the two men were killed because of Hillary Clinton�s email server, claiming that she sent classified emails about the situation in Benghazi that were intercepted by the bad guys, who used that information to plan their attack. There is, of course, not one shred of evidence that this ever happened, it�s a fantasy that exists only in Klayman�s fevered imagination.

Sorry if this got posted already, I went back several pages and searched but didn't find anything.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:39

DoctorWhat: Nov 18, 2011; A little privacy, please?

moffat is mostly good tbh and peter capaldi is the best

(well, the second best)

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:40

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Technogeek posted:

So, while Donald Trump was making certain implications about the necessity of the assassination of his opponent, Vilerat's mother continues to make terrible "it's Hillary KKKlinton's fault" arguments. Bonus points for including Orly Taitz-grade lawyers in this one!

Sorry if this got posted already, I went back several pages and searched but didn't find anything.

I knew there was a lawsuit but I didn't know it was this bad

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:40

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Man I wish Vile Rat could haunt her from behind the grave.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:45

ploots: Mar 19, 2010

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/763130669606309892

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:45

Stultus Maximus: Dec 21, 2009; USPOL May

Technogeek posted:

So, while Donald Trump was making certain implications about the necessity of the assassination of his opponent, Vilerat's mother continues to make terrible "it's Hillary KKKlinton's fault" arguments. Bonus points for including Orly Taitz-grade lawyers in this one!

Sorry if this got posted already, I went back several pages and searched but didn't find anything.

Every time I see "Klayman" I read it as "Klansman."

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:47

radical meme: Apr 17, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Technogeek posted:

So, while Donald Trump was making certain implications about the necessity of the assassination of his opponent, Vilerat's mother continues to make terrible "it's Hillary KKKlinton's fault" arguments. Bonus points for including Orly Taitz-grade lawyers in this one!

Sorry if this got posted already, I went back several pages and searched but didn't find anything.

It's been a really busy day, what with Trump calling for the assassination of Hillary, so easy mistake to make.

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:49

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# ? May 26, 2024 00:33

borkencode: Nov 10, 2004

So I know we're expecting Trump to drop a C-bomb during the debates, but what if he takes a swing at her?

# ? Aug 10, 2016 01:50

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > USPOL August: Quoth The Donald, "Arzy more."

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