Samurai Sanders posted:

What does it having medicinal use have to do with it staying schedule 1? How did those arguments get tied together?

Tulip posted:

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.

Tulip posted:

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.

Jackson Taus posted:

The companies actually DO want to repatriate the money, because it allows them to payout executive bonuses and stock dividends.

It's a bad idea for two reasons: (a) it was a money loser in 2004-2005 when we tried it last and (b) doing the holiday encourages companies to keep holding money off-shore in subsequent years in hopes of getting another holiday.

A good bit of money did come back stateside in the 2004-2005 holiday, but instead of being spent on creating jobs in America as the Bush admin contended, it instead went into the 1%'s pockets..

Fangz posted:

5. (Starts talking about Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein)

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah tax holidays are a con on their very face.

Companies that want to spend that money onshore investing in new buildings and employees would be doing that anyway because those are already tax deductible expenses. The only things that's taxed lower in a tax holiday is nondeductible stuff like dividends and whoa big surprise that's what they spend the money on.

Goatman Sacks posted:

So, marijuana.

Samurai Sanders posted:

What does it having medicinal use have to do with it staying schedule 1? How did those arguments get tied together?

WampaLord posted:

What about epileptics and people with cancer who have found medical benefits from marijuana?

WampaLord posted:

What about epileptics and people with cancer who have found medical benefits from marijuana?

7c Nickel posted:

7c Nickel posted:

RevKrule posted:

On the plus side, while they didn't reclassify, they did loosen restrictions on research so maybe there can be medical uses actually found.

Samurai Sanders posted:

edit: Of course alcohol and tobacco are both schedule 1 as gently caress by those criteria but hey!

Fangz posted:

Quick, folks, how is Trump gonna spin this Foley thing? Your options:

1. Who's this Mike Foley, never heard of him

2. Mike's only crime was loving America too much, don't listen to what is said in the lying media

3. Oh is sending messages a crime now? AT LEAST he didn't use a PRIVATE SERVER

4. Well, what's worse, paedophilic grooming or Being Related To A Terrorist?

5. (Starts talking about Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein)

Samurai Sanders posted:

Oh, well I learned something. I thought the classification was just about danger.

edit: Of course alcohol and tobacco are both schedule 1 as gently caress by those criteria but hey!

ComradeCosmobot posted:

The DEA has announced that marijuana will remain on Schedule I for the foreseeable future, as the FDA continues to hold that it has "no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States."

berserker posted:

Yep no accepted medical use in the US... except of course for over half of the states that have MMJ laws... yep none in the US

gently caress the FDA

Crow Jane posted:

Clinton's camp disavowed Mateen, right? How is Trump going to spin this one?

computer parts posted:

To be fair a lot of those are just backdoor ways to legalization and even many of the supporters will openly admit that.

computer parts posted:

To be fair a lot of those are just backdoor ways to legalization and even many of the supporters will openly admit that.

berserker posted:

Yep no accepted medical use in the US... except of course for over half of the states that have MMJ laws... yep none in the US

gently caress the FDA

Tulip posted:

Another factor - Bill Clinton may be the most famous vegan on the planet. Whether he's more famous than Paul McCartney and whether he's actually vegan (he says he is, one of his doctors says he eats fish, another doctor says that he doesn't, etc) may be up for debate, but him becoming First Gentleman would likely do a lot of awareness raising, and many animal rights folks I know are pretty stoked about his increased publicity.

berserker posted:

That doesn't matter though because the FDA said no accepted use in the US. Not a "minority" of accepted use. Not "no federal" accepted use. NO accepted use. Which is bullshit.

Eifert Posting posted:

Wait is this a new thing? A buddy of mine told me that Bill Clinton is super popular in Ho Chi Minh because he asked for a second bowl of pho at a local noodle place and basically licked The bowls clean.

Trabisnikof posted:

How many federally foundered DEA approved longitudinal studies showing medical benefit can you find?

Samurai Sanders posted:

How is pho vegan?

ComradeCosmobot posted:

The 6th Circuit has ruled in favor of Tennessee and North Carolina's rights to restrict the expansion of public high-speed internet utilities.

ComradeCosmobot posted:

The 6th Circuit has ruled in favor of Tennessee and North Carolina's rights to restrict the expansion of public high-speed internet utilities.

Eifert Posting posted:

I have literally never smoked pot, and don't really have any interest in it, but cannot understand for the life of me how it's so hard to legalize.

ComradeCosmobot posted:

The 6th Circuit has ruled in favor of Tennessee and North Carolina's rights to restrict the expansion of public high-speed internet utilities.

speng31b posted:

Seems like CNN is in an all-out "yes he did" "no he didn't" war with Trump on the "secret service talked to him" topic, and CNN is winning.

Goatman Sacks posted:

So, marijuana.

Schizotek posted:

Huh. Trump gave a rally like a mile from where I live...and looks like he's giving one a few miles from where I'll be living after next week tomorrow. Pretty sure that one isn't sold out. Do I go goons?