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Xinder posted:So does he ever grow up or are they just going to keep him a god-kid forever with occasional glimpses of a future version of him hanging out with his bff Galactus? He ages really slow because there's no rush to grow him up. His future incarnations preserve his childhood self because you can't get that back. Franklin is probably the best kid in comics. I was introduced to Franklin through Amazing Spider-Man. The Venom symbiote was in the Baxter building after being removed from Spider-Man. Which lead to the Amazing Bag Man. The symbiote tried to make a psychic link with Franklin as he chased a ball past the lab it was being kept in. Seeing the limitless power within the child, the symbiote felt something for the first time, fear. Venom's weaknesses: Fire. Sonics. Franklin Richards.
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I can't decide if I hate or love this character now. And that's the best feeling.
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Aug 26, 2016 07:58
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Xinder posted:Wait that's an actual established thing about his character? I thought they were just using weird comic book liquid time where the world gets progressively more modern but nobody ever gets any older except when sometimes they do. Actually thinking about it he may just look however he wants cuz there's that scene in ff i think where he's talking with Galactus at the heat death of the universe and I don't remember him looking super old
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Aug 26, 2016 08:13
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Valeria Richards is the kid you should hate, except with most writers she's still actually pretty cool.
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Aug 26, 2016 09:17
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Aw look at her she's planning galactic scale genocide again. 
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Aug 26, 2016 09:40
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Valeria is the best because she's Reed's smart mixed with Doom's world-conquering. Her and Doom teaming up to fix the world l, beat Loki, and grab ice cream is the kind of story comics need.
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Aug 26, 2016 13:16
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Speaking of characters who fell out the multiverse at the end of Secret Wars, does anybody know where Black Swan ended up? It seemed like she had an interesting story going, but nothing ever came of it.
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Aug 26, 2016 13:28
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site posted:Actually thinking about it he may just look however he wants cuz there's that scene in ff i think where he's talking with Galactus at the heat death of the universe and I don't remember him looking super old He's immortal. It's not that he ages slowly, it's that he's never going to die. The point of that Galactus scene is that when everything has died and it's time for a new universe, he'll be going forward into it with Galactus. He'll age to physical maturity and then that'll be it, he'll be effectively a celestial being beyond the concerns of mortality. And there are interesting stories to tell with that, it's just that you can't tell most of them in a shared universe. It's hard trying to have an event where the plot is "And Wolverine pops out and he waves his claws around, and then Franklin unmakes all of reality and remakes it so that the conflict never happened in the first place". And there's only so many times you can pretend he wouldn't do that, especially after you've already had him do it multiple times.
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Aug 26, 2016 14:06
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Maxwell Adams posted:Speaking of characters who fell out the multiverse at the end of Secret Wars, does anybody know where Black Swan ended up? It seemed like she had an interesting story going, but nothing ever came of it.
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Aug 26, 2016 15:00
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Franklin and especially Valeria Richards both rule and you should absolutely, at the bare minimum, read Hickman's Fantastic Four/FF run considering it's probably the best run of comics that Marvel has put out this century.
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Aug 26, 2016 15:13
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I kind of like Franklin, but until I checked Wiki just now I had no idea how long he'd been around. 1968! Five years in!
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Aug 26, 2016 15:35
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I kinda gave up on Hickman's Fantastic Four / FF after a dozen or so issues because only Reed was interesting to me.
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Aug 26, 2016 15:45
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Xinder posted:I can't decide if I hate or love this character now. And that's the best feeling. Someone post those panels of Osbourne meeting the kids when he wanted to see their parents.
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Aug 26, 2016 16:15
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I consider "Run" to be one of the best endings to any arc of comics ever made, which is a less powerful statement than it could be considering how many people have trouble sticking the landing or have their runs cut short earlier than they intended. It's such a perfect coda to his work on Fantastic Four and FF, and it really sums up everything he was going for.
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Aug 26, 2016 16:20
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Wanderer posted:
Given that her text stayed red, I think the implications is she's speaking Norwegian the whole time, we just get the translation after the first panel. Also, it's kinda weird that Toni made a Rescue suit and then starts using it like the most murderous Sue Storm ever. At that point, why bother with the non-violent version of Iron Man and just put guns on it?
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Aug 26, 2016 16:37
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redbackground posted:AFAIK, she has not been seen since Secret Wars ended. I wanna say i saw her briefly in something soon after sw ended, like an avengers book or something, but i could be wrong Toxxupation posted:Franklin and especially Valeria Richards both rule and you should absolutely, at the bare minimum, read Hickman's Fantastic Four/FF run considering it's probably the best run of comics that Marvel has put out this century. Young Valeria is awesome but i kinda got the impression that upgrading Lunella to smartest person in the marvel u means that we won't be seeing V return any time soon
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Aug 26, 2016 17:43
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Toxxupation posted:Franklin and especially Valeria Richards both rule and you should absolutely, at the bare minimum, read Hickman's Fantastic Four/FF run considering it's probably the best run of comics that Marvel has put out this century. If it's the one that started in 2010, I just added that to my wishlist as something I should eventually pick up. It probably won't be anytime soon though, as I am too poor for this hobby.
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Aug 26, 2016 19:08
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Xinder posted:If it's the one that started in 2010, I just added that to my wishlist as something I should eventually pick up. It probably won't be anytime soon though, as I am too poor for this hobby. The bulk of it, if not all, should now be available in Marvel Unlimited and they usually have a good deal / month trial around black friday. You can buy a month sub, read it all, then cancel.
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Aug 26, 2016 19:12
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Gaz-L posted:Also, it's kinda weird that Toni made a Rescue suit and then starts using it like the most murderous Sue Storm ever. At that point, why bother with the non-violent version of Iron Man and just put guns on it? Because she wanted the full-blown force shielding to withstand that one guy's attacks, which were capable of landing a one-shot on somebody who wiped the floor with a full Avengers squad.
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Aug 26, 2016 19:19
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The bulk of it, if not all, should now be available in Marvel Unlimited and they usually have a good deal / month trial around black friday. You can buy a month sub, read it all, then cancel. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
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Aug 26, 2016 19:25
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The bulk of it, if not all, should now be available in Marvel Unlimited and they usually have a good deal / month trial around black friday. You can buy a month sub, read it all, then cancel. The entire thing's on there, but the switch to FF at one point makes it kind of annoying.
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Aug 26, 2016 19:25
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The whole Franklin is destined to be the last living thing in this universe, will become the Galactus of the next is funny because, unless I'm very much misremembering, that used to be the destiny of Mr. Immortal of the Great Lakes Avengers from one of his few moments of pathos.
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Aug 26, 2016 20:00
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No, Galactus will still be Galactus. He'll just have a friend who is way more powerful than him next time around.
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Aug 26, 2016 20:02
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I caught up with Gwenpool! Thinking about going for Kamala's series next.
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Aug 26, 2016 20:08
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I kinda gave up on Hickman's Fantastic Four / FF after a dozen or so issues because only Reed was interesting to me. That's a sentiment the writer obviously shared.
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Aug 26, 2016 21:31
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Mover posted:The whole Franklin is destined to be the last living thing in this universe, will become the Galactus of the next is funny because, unless I'm very much misremembering, that used to be the destiny of Mr. Immortal of the Great Lakes Avengers from one of his few moments of pathos. It's also awesome as heck, because the firstborn child of the Marvel universe gets to be the father of the next universe, in that he's there from the moment it's born, watching it grow and change and come into its own, with his loving guidance helping it out. Franklin has a better arc than most superhero characters, imo. I'm a huge mark for childhood/parenthood stuff, though.
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Aug 26, 2016 21:54
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He has a better arc because it gets to have an ending, something very few superhero comic characters are afforded.
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Aug 26, 2016 22:16
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Waffleman_ posted:I caught up with Gwenpool! It's a good idea to do that. But give it some leeway at the start.
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Aug 26, 2016 22:26
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I'm beginning to think Lurdiak might not like Hickman.
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Air is lava! posted:It's a good idea to do that. But give it some leeway at the start. Has Kamala been around long enough that getting Marvel Unlimited to catch up on some of it would be a good value?
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Aug 26, 2016 23:10
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There's 23 Ms. Marvel issues on Unlimited, the entirety of the first volume (19 issues) and the first four issues of the second volume. So it's up to you to determine whether 23 issues is worth it or not.
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Aug 26, 2016 23:16
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Well, getting a month and cancelling after I'm done would definitely be a better deal than getting them all on Comixology, even with the bundle they have of the first volume + a few other issues she was in. I'll probably try that.
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Aug 26, 2016 23:23
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Aphrodite posted:I'm beginning to think Lurdiak might not like Hickman. Really? But his posts are so calm and understated!
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Really? But his posts are so calm and understated! Thanks. 
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Aug 26, 2016 23:59
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Waffleman_ posted:Has Kamala been around long enough that getting Marvel Unlimited to catch up on some of it would be a good value? That would probably get you the entirety of the first volume, so you'd be in good shape, yeah.
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Aug 27, 2016 00:00
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To be fair Hickman is a bad writer.
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Aug 27, 2016 01:04
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair Hickman is a bad writer. To be fair shut your face Hickman owns. Parker dealing with Johnny as a roommate is some excellent writing.
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Aug 27, 2016 01:10
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Lurdiak posted:That's a sentiment the writer obviously shared. Fantastic Four #572 posted:Tom Brevoort: Okay...now well em what you think is wrong with the book right now... what, in your opinion, isn't working?
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Aug 27, 2016 01:22
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Have any of the Initiative popped up since the book ended? A lot of them are good characters that would be a waste if they flew away into the ether.
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Mr Hootington posted:Have any of the Initiative popped up since the book ended? A lot of them are good characters that would be a waste if they flew away into the ether. - Ant-Man (Eric O'Grady) was on Secret Avengers for a while. - Hardball hung around for a bit and was last seen briefly in Fear Itself. Komodo was also last seen briefly in Fear Itself. - Prodigy starred in a Fear Itself mini. - Stature had a bit of a run after The Initiative, but then had the whole unpleasantness happen to her during Children's Crusade. So no, not really. To be fair, although I liked Avengers: The Initiative, Avengers Academy had both the better and more layered characters overall and if any should be brought back, it should be them.
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