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Reiterpallasch posted:locking the story behind coil-with-echo 2.55 difficulty would still probably require you to have 7 friends to do it with I don't think that requiring friends to do things in an MMO is unreasonable.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:So here's where you're 100% full of poo poo to me. Climactic battles have nothing to do with the difficulty. I would even argue that hiding story behind savage content would make the story worse because now that content has to be written so that it doesn't effect the rest of the game. It will inherently be less able to change things in the world than easy story mode can. It's entirely about you wanting an exclusive club to be in, not about how much you care about the story, because if you did care about the story that much the difficulty wouldn't even factor into it. Imagine getting to the last phase of T13, and Akh Morn plinks you for 100 damage. Also the Alex story already doesn't affect the rest of the game, it's entirely its own thing. So I'm not sure how that's a valid argument.
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Aug 27, 2016 22:24
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Chairman close the thread until 3.4 please.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Chairman close the thread until 3.4 please. no
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Fister Roboto posted:Also the Alex story already doesn't affect the rest of the game, it's entirely its own thing. So I'm not sure how that's a valid argument. This was true about Binding Coil until about 12 hours ago.
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Aug 27, 2016 22:30
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Yeah, but even then it's only going to change like one line of dialogue.
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Fister Roboto posted:Imagine getting to the last phase of T13, and Akh Morn plinks you for 100 damage. That's true, but it could change. It's more that story affecting the world can't happen if only 5% of the population can do it. And so what? Who cares that akh morn plinks you for 100 damage? One of the most climactic fights I can think of is still in mass effect 3, when the reaper on the quarian homeworld is chasing you, everyone is panicking and losing their poo poo, but when legion says he thinks we could still get away, Shepard tells them to nut up, link his orbital targeting gun to the entire quarian fleet, and you make a stand and kill a reaper using conventional tactics and weapons and without losing entire fleets of ships. It's a huge moment in the story because Shepard showed everyone the reapers can be beaten without losing thousands of lives, and by making his stand he saved both the geth and the quarians. It was such a cathartic feeling to shove an entire fleet's railguns up a reaper's rear end and send the message that the Galaxy wasn't going to go quietly into the night. Mechanically, you click a dude for 3-4 seconds a few times, then a cutscene plays. Your insistence that difficulty means jack loving poo poo to anyone who cares about the story is loving absurd. What you want is the catharsis of beating a hard boss who has been kicking your rear end, which is entirely a different thing.
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Aug 27, 2016 22:36
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That might have been the worst example you could present. I hated that scene because it was basically a quick time event. For a lot of people, the risk of failure or defeat makes victory much more special.
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Fister Roboto posted:That might have been the worst example you could present. I hated that scene because it was basically a quick time event. So because it's not climactic to you it's not climactic to anyone. Got it.
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Aug 27, 2016 22:40
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Fister Roboto posted:I don't think that requiring friends to do things in an MMO is unreasonable. You're in the minority.
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Aug 27, 2016 22:42
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I'm sorry that you don't have any friends.
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Aug 27, 2016 22:43
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm sorry that you don't have any friends. Fister Roboto posted:
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Aug 27, 2016 22:45
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Participating in this convo is the real own. I just owned myself by chiming in.
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Aug 27, 2016 22:49
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So I decided to come back is this a bad time
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Aug 27, 2016 22:54
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Blockhouse posted:So I decided to come back a patch was just released that makes catching up super easy, so no better time if you want to get ready for 3.4 which is in a month
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Aug 27, 2016 22:55
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Reiterpallasch posted:e: i'd be a little surprised if the answer wasn't piety/determination, like for white mages this is far back but please don't willingly put notable trash stat determination on anything as a healer unless you are somehow completely out of options
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Aug 27, 2016 22:56
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Blockhouse posted:So I decided to come back Welp, not the best time for the history of the FFXIV thread but the game is still fun  Welcome back, you're in time for Yokai and anniversary event starting today.
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Failboattootoot posted:You're in the minority. This is a bad post.
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seannykun posted:This is a bad post. It's accurate though.
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Aug 27, 2016 23:12
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So have they confirmed wether or not the Hildebrand questlines will finally have more than 2 quests?
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Verranicus posted:It's accurate though. idk, I don't think it's really unreasonable to expect people in an mmo, a social game, to make friends and build groups to clear content. Call me old fashioned I guess
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seannykun posted:idk, I don't think it's really unreasonable to expect people in an mmo, a social game, to make friends and build groups to clear content. Call me old fashioned I guess You are old fashioned, yes. With how casual and solo friendly MMOs are it's not a stretch for most people to expect to be able to do most of the content with PUGs.
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Verranicus posted:You are old fashioned, yes. With how casual and solo friendly MMOs are it's not a stretch for most people to expect to be able to do most of the content with PUGs. Did I miss something and they're removing the normal mode you can DF? Harder content should require coordinated groups to kill.
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what part of "multiplayer" is confusing to you
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seannykun posted:This is a bad post. Sure, appeals to majority usually are. Devs have limited resources to make content for any game and it is ridiculous to ever see anyone who is a hardcore raiding elitist blunder into a thread complaining about casual content when fiscally it makes no sense to be catering to raiders in the least. It is galling that people who are incredibly lucky they even get the bone of savage think they deserve to not just gain something but remove something from the majority of the playerbase. I am not unsympathetic to hardcore raiders and their woes, I used to do that poo poo in WoW and briefly in first and second coil. And it is drat silly that they make you clear story before doing savage. And it is unfortunate that raiders appear to be dissatisfied with the content design of the Heavensward raids. So take issue with those things and not that casuals are getting to see poo poo and you are just so mad about this that you will derail the thread over it on a monthly basis. seannykun posted:Did I miss something and they're removing the normal mode you can DF? Harder content should require coordinated groups to kill. Literally all of this started with Fister saying they should remove DF story mode, yes.
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seannykun posted:Did I miss something and they're removing the normal mode you can DF? Harder content should require coordinated groups to kill. Okay but what people were talking about was difficult content and removing story mode.
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Verranicus posted:Okay but what people were talking about was difficult content and removing story mode. Ah then I did miss something. Personally I'm of the opinion of: Keep Normal in DF, keep savage difficult, and add a middle tier.
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I said that they should make it harder, like they said it was going to be.
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seannykun posted:Ah then I did miss something. Personally I'm of the opinion of: Keep Normal in DF, keep savage difficult, and add a middle tier. Perhaps call it something like "Hard Mode"
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seannykun posted:Ah then I did miss something. Personally I'm of the opinion of: Keep Normal in DF, keep savage difficult, and add a middle tier. Yeah, this is also what I'd love to see.
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Aug 27, 2016 23:30
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I would like for Square-Enix to get over their LoL envy boner and stop the focus on PvP and return to 2.0 form
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Aug 27, 2016 23:34
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When are they gonna put this game on xbox
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Aug 27, 2016 23:38
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As soon as Microsoft gets their head out of their rear end and cooperates with SE's server procedures.
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Aug 27, 2016 23:39
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Really FFXIV does need imo something harder then Alex story but easier then Savage.
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^^ Yes but at the cost of savage not the storyilifinicus posted:I would like for Square-Enix to get over their LoL envy boner and stop the focus on PvP and return to 2.0 form With all this talk about percentile of players in savage I would really like to see the feast pvp percentiles vs the total population, because they actually have exclusive ranked rewards and poo poo.
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Velthice posted:this is far back but please don't willingly put notable trash stat determination on anything as a healer unless you are somehow completely out of options Det is shittacular on materia because you get less of it. But for a non raider, accuracy is pointless and crit just generates extra aggro a DF tank might not be able to take.
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I guess spell speed? I don't play AST so you should probably trust literally anyone who does over me.
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Enough talk about dumb stuff, how about the best character from Heavensward, Matoya?
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She's so tall! 
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