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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:It's just saying low level staff members shouldn't promise specific policy movement, which is a good thing because low level staffers don't control that kind of thing and it would be making an empty promise. Yeah letting random volunteers make policy promises is never a good idea.
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Pellisworth posted:if only you were one of the quiet ones Thanks for the link. If nothing else good came from people hopelessly interacting with Shbobdb, at least this is interesting.
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Shbobdb posted:It's really easy. Grow up in a secular Jewish neighborhood with "angry atheist" parents, live in Germany and hang out with Turks and anarchists, move to Indiana and meet a bunch of loving terrifying Christians (as well as a few good ones), move to very secular NYC and surround yourself with secular folks, move to California and likewise surround yourself with secular folks. If I'm talking with someone who is actually religious and isn't my wife, 9/10 times they're going to be Muslim, probably at a bar where we'll be drinking. you understand you actually likely knew a ton of christians, muslims, jews, and probably at least a few other faiths in this little globetrotting life, right? You get that's the main reason we're making fun of you? Like, jokes, frogs, all that, but someone has to explain the bit to this mook.
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Grouchio posted:So how did that visit to Mexico go? A massive success according to the media, in reality it was nothing whatsoever and they're hoping nobody asks "so who's paying for the wall" afterward because they noticeably ignored that particular elephant (spoiler alert: everyone immediately asked that)
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Pellisworth posted:edit: Do you think "Politics" and "Religion" constitute overlapping magisteria? Do you think they should?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:you understand you actually likely knew a ton of christians, muslims, jews, and probably at least a few other faiths in this little globetrotting life, right? You get that's the main reason we're making fun of you? If I can't tell, who cares? It's only when people get up in your face about it that it gets distasteful. Pray at home and in Church all you want.
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Not sure if this got posted before another episode of internet atheists being tedious, but Trump's TV spending less than advertised. Less money on hand than expected? Trump can't try to steal any money that goes to tv networks?
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Shbobdb posted:If I can't tell, who cares? It's only when people get up in your face about it that it gets distasteful. Pray at home and in Church all you want. because your entire point these so many pages has been 'I'm a baby man afraid of anyone saying the word god around me because clearly they're preaching at me, and that's because the very few Christians I've met (because I am a good atheist boy who only makes Acceptable Friends) have all been horrible'. I would put money on the fact actually being the vast majority of religious people you've met have been perfectly fine, even if they'd agree with the utter horror of Clinton...using her church's motto as inspiration?
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Shbobdb posted:If I can't tell, who cares? It's only when people get up in your face about it that it gets distasteful. Pray at home and in Church all you want. Yeah about that relentless public showing of one's beliefs...
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Drunk Theory posted:Thanks for the link. If nothing else good came from people hopelessly interacting with Shbobdb, at least this is interesting. I link the NOMA article anytime "new atheism" or related ideas come up. To me, new atheism is basically fundamentalist Christianity in reverse. Young-Earth creationists use their religion to make claims about the natural world, which is the domain of science, so they run into conflict. New atheists do the opposite and use science and empiricism to make claims about religion. Since religion isn't something you can study empirically, science can't actually say all that much about it. I find most new atheists do not understand basic theory of science. Most scientists I've worked with are religious to some degree and many hold beliefs similar to NOMA. Gould is essentially arguing that religion and science are both valuable but are separate "magisteria" and they don't actually overlap or conflict at all. New atheists and fundamentalist Christians are both toxic in the same way; they're exclusionist rather than inclusive and respectful of other belief systems. edit: and they're both bad science. Internet atheists are really bad at science which is pretty ironic. Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:because your entire point these so many pages has been 'I'm a baby man afraid of anyone saying the word god around me because clearly they're preaching at me, and that's because the very few Christians I've met (because I am a good atheist boy who only makes Acceptable Friends) have all been horrible'. No, my point is that Clinton has been really playing up the "God" angle this campaign and I don't like that. I'm fine with pandering but she's been working a very sincere angle that I find discomforting. Shbobdb fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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It's been at least 10 pages of Shbobdb's religion tantrum, you nerds know how use the ignore function right?
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Can someone with some power warn this idiot that he has to leave all of this bullshit in the USPOL August thread under threat of probation until November 8th?
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Aug 31, 2016 23:43
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Shbobdb posted:No, my point is that has been really playing up the "God" angle this campaign and I don't like that. Except they're not.
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Aug 31, 2016 23:43
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Shbobdb posted:No, my point is that has been really playing up the "God" angle this campaign and I don't like that. Right but that's, ya know, not a true thing. Like, you've said you liked Obama's campaign and Clinton is running near the exact same style, so we're good right?
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Aug 31, 2016 23:44
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A quick at-work search for post--Mexico trump brought up this tweet:quote:I.M. Important (@freelancewoman) Noice.
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Aug 31, 2016 23:46
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Right but that's, ya know, not a true thing. Again, I'm not sure how you can qualify a feeling as "true" or "false". Even if they are the same in tenor (which I don't believe) I think it's true to say that older white religious people scare me a lot more than younger black religious people.
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FetusSlapper posted:It's been at least 10 pages of Shbobdb's religion tantrum, you nerds know how use the ignore function right? ten pages of people chasing a circular argument is nothing for this thread
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Here have a thing that may have been posted before but who the gently caress knows after all that spam: Kellyanne Conway: If women, men had equal strength, 'rape would not exist' http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/30/politics/kellyanne-conway-rape-comments/
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Shbobdb posted:Again, I'm not sure how you can qualify a feeling as "true" or "false". Even if they are the same in tenor (which I don't believe) I think it's true to say that older white religious people scare me a lot more than younger black religious people. I don't know. How do you qualify a belief as "true" or "false"?
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Shbobdb posted:Again, I'm not sure how you can qualify a feeling as "true" or "false". ...aren't you the internet athiest saying all faith belongs in the wastebin of history?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:...aren't you the internet athiest saying all faith belongs in the wastebin of history? this thread belongs in the wastebins of history. Thankfully it will be in a few hours. Can we start September early?
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is the amazing atheist still loving bananas?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:...aren't you the internet athiest saying all faith belongs in the wastebin of history? Personally that's how I feel but I'm fine with people practicing in the privacy of their home or church. I'm not out to convert anybody or rock the boat. I just don't want Jesus shoved in my face. I also don't like it when religion and politics mix since the results are usually incredibly toxic.
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Dancer posted:Here have a thing that may have been posted before but who the gently caress knows after all that spam: This was posted earlier. I wonder if Darren Sharper is going to use this defense on appeal.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:ten pages of people chasing a circular argument is nothing for this thread TeenageArchipelago posted:this thread belongs in the wastebins of history. if we had better things to do than get in circular arguments with idiots then we wouldn't be posting on the SA forums
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Aug 31, 2016 23:58
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Shbobdb posted:Personally that's how I feel but I'm fine with people practicing in the privacy of their home or church. I'm not out to convert anybody or rock the boat. I just don't want Jesus shoved in my face. I also don't like it when religion and politics mix since the results are usually incredibly toxic. yea abolition was a bad movement
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Anybody ever heard of the Council for National Policy? https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/08/31/revealed-conway-bannon-members-secretive-group They are listed as a hate group by the SPLC and apparently both Bannon and Conway are members along with Tony Perkins, Frank Gaffney, Jerome Corsi, and other assorted assholes.
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Spun Dog posted:Anybody ever heard of the Council for National Policy? aren't they the cool guys who helped Uganda out with their kill the gays poo poo?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:yea abolition was a bad movement Weak. Let's take a look at America right now. When you see an older white person talking about Jesus, do you think what they are saying is going to be a good thing or something hilariously over the top evil?
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https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/771119123812257793 I feel better about the trip now.
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Shbobdb posted:Weak. 50/50
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Dude you have already admitted that you have very little experience with Christians, your generalizations have been called out as uninformed for ten pages, please please please just go to a church (ideally one without internet access) and educate yourself.
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Pellisworth posted:50/50 Do you think politics and religion are overlaping magisteria? Yes or no.
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Shbobdb posted:Weak. I don't inherently think anyone 'talking about Jesus' is going to do anything good or bad based only on that knowledge of them. I just, ya know, think they like Jesus. ...Do YOU think someone is about to do or say something bad if they talk about God? Like, how hard does this go, do you assume I have any inherent virtue or lack of virtue as a Jew? What about seeing a Muslim dude praying in public, what do you feel that says about his deep inherent morality?
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Plexiwatt posted:Dude you have already admitted that you have very little experience with Christians, your generalizations have been called out as uninformed for ten pages, please please please just go to a church (ideally one without internet access) and educate yourself. Why would I want to educate myself about something I don't care about? As long as it's not in my face, it's not an issue. What would I gain out of devoting time and energy to this task? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Shbobdb posted:Weak. I don't know. My mom is the executive director at a convent for a Catholic order of nuns. Pretty much every person there is amazing and you should go gently caress yourself (I'm an atheist). I want nothing more sincerely for you to have to deal with people pushing religion in your face now and always. You're such a bigot
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Shbobdb posted:Weak. You could listen to the words that they're saying?
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jk all Christians are evil except minorities because that's not politically correctShbobdb posted:Do you think politics and religion are overlaping magisteria? Yes or no. Read the article and ask an intelligible question. You haven't done anything but skim it, I've taught dozens of discussion sections on the article and it's obvious you haven't engaged with it.
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