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For reference, Petco has (had?) a deal with a soda, cookie, pretzel, hot dog, and peanuts for $10 ($15 to sub a domestic in place of soda). This was back when the Padres were slightly relevant, too, so it wasn't explicitly a last ditch effort to put butts in seats.Flikken posted:Long island iced tees own. When you are 21 and learning about going to bars. Or when you're looking for a big stiff drink and you're not in the mood for another traditional double tall highball.
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There was a bar in college that had Long Island ice teas for 1.50 every Wednesday. You can't imagine how hosed up that entire bar was. Like a mosh pit of Rosses.
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Chichevache posted:
You're paying $12 in SF for indeterminte craft brews? I take it you exclusively drink in hotel bars, night clubs, and strip joints?
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I went to Qualcomm for the first time in 2 years last night for the SDSU game and...yikes. They aren't even trying anymore.
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kiimo posted:
Holy poo poo, lmao. I'd go there, LIIT's are good.
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The most Qualcomm thing is the TVs they have in the overhang sections. There are two TVs mounted together- one is a LCD, the other is a tube TV. Both are tiny.
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Chichevache posted:
You go to a bar to go to the bar. it isn't about the food. The point I'm making is that Qualcomm already sucks poo poo as a venue and high prices on everything contribute to people not liking going there.
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High concession prices?! At a STADIUM??? IN THE NFL??!?! no way
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those prices rival memorial stadium where the illinois fighting illini put a garbage tier program on the field
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Spoeank posted:The worst part about that is a grown rear end man drinking a long island iced tea bad opinion right here
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there's no way a bar anywhere can charge $10 for a lite beer. i dont believe it
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Whole lot of hate for God's Own Cocktail the Long Island Iced Tea in here.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Whole lot of hate for God's Own Cocktail the Long Island Iced Tea in here. No True Scotsman would drink that.
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mastershakeman posted:there's no way a bar anywhere can charge $10 for a lite beer. i dont believe it As a frequenter of bars in the Los Angeles area I'm trying not to take the bait here.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Whole lot of hate for God's Own Cocktail the Long Island Iced Tea in here. The correct answer is actually a B-52.
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Please vote to fund my stadium. Also, please pay exorbitant prices for parking and concessions while I talk about how I can't afford to build my own structure.
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https://twitter.com/JasonColeBR/status/773173086266855425 lol gently caress off
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Glass of Milk posted:Please vote to fund my stadium. Also, please pay exorbitant prices for parking and concessions while I talk about how I can't afford to build my own structure. The Spanos are on welfare and it's up to every San Diegan to tighten their belts and chip in.
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Is there an IRC channel, I just bought a gift card on amazon for steaks since I'm going to have a Sam Bradford LMAO Vikings challenge and need some suggestions.
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c0ldfuse posted:Is there an IRC channel, I just bought a gift card on amazon for steaks since I'm going to have a Sam Bradford LMAO Vikings challenge and need some suggestions.
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sam bradford lmao posted:what does this have to do with the raiders or chargers Aww f thought this was the general chat thread.
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Dean Spanos can suck my balls.
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c0ldfuse posted:Is there an IRC channel, I just bought a gift card on amazon for steaks since I'm going to have a Sam Bradford LMAO Vikings challenge and need some suggestions. We use dischord now.
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Lessail posted:https://twitter.com/JasonColeBR/status/773173086266855425 Buried in the comments he says it's likely that this is the only holdup, and the league will support the move if funding's passed One step away from Vegas Raiders
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One step away from Raider fans veering from Darth Vader and Pirates and right into War Hammer desert costumes. I am ready.
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Chichevache posted:We use dischord now. Whats the discord channel? Seems like games might be better to GDT in there than in threads sometimes
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The Glumslinger posted:Whats the discord channel? Seems like games might be better to GDT in there than in threads sometimes https://discord.gg/eTGp2
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kiimo posted:One step away from Raider fans veering from Darth Vader and Pirates and right into War Hammer desert costumes. I am ready. WHO RUN BARTERTOWN
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-inside-sheldon-adelsons-plan-to-build-an-nfl-stadium-in-las-vegas-151026939.html Yahoo Finance: When did you first decide you wanted to be involved with financing this stadium? Sheldon Adelson: My company got involved through my government relations guy, Andy Abboud. He heard about this idea and talked to the people at Oakland. That’s all. So I’m not the expert on this. But that’s alright, I’ve done dozens of businesses in my life and knew nothing about each one before I started. A stadium project is publicly scrutinized, often criticized, and costly. Why do this? Stadiums make very little money. And sports teams don’t make a lot of money either. Stadiums are barely profitable. Now, some owners who own teams also own part or all of the stadiums. [New England Patriots owner] Robert Kraft and [Dallas Cowboys owner] Jerry Jones are the only ones I know of that seem to have made a lot of money. But it’s not a business I would get up and start doing around the country. But sports teams do grow in value. Teams keep selling for higher and higher prices. Sheldon Adelson: Right. It’s the ‘greater fool’ theory—one day you’re going to run out of fools. So, again, why do it? Are you a big football fan? Sheldon Adelson: No, I’m a minor football fan. My 17-year-old son is a fanatic about sports, particularly basketball and football. But I’m not. I know Bobby Kraft and I got interested in football. But I’m not like a real football fan. This is not something that I have to do. I’m doing it because we see there could be some advantages to the whole community—not necessarily on the NFL side, because it’s very difficult for us to make any money from the stadium just with the NFL team. The only opportunity for us to make money is from activities other than football. We could package our rooms with prime seats in the stadium for concerts, for mixed martial arts, for boxing, for college football, for major league soccer. The last fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao could have filled a football stadium, it was in extremely high demand. And we think we could bring in Premier League soccer teams like Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid, they could come in and do their friendlies. And that would bring crowds. It’s a tourist attraction like conventions are a tourist attraction. [Note: Adelson made his money initially in conventions; he created the computer trade show Comdex.] And all the other hotels could do that too. They could buy tickets to the events and offer to their guests. I’m not monopolizing the tickets. So it’s not just about getting an NFL team? Sheldon Adelson: The part of the year that is slow, profit-wise, in Las Vegas, is the summer, and November to December. We have an opportunity to improve that [with the stadium]. We can fill our rooms during the slowest time of the year. Mid-November to December is the slowest part of the year, that’s why it was easy for me to run Comdex the week before Thanksgiving. In college football, that’s the busy season. So we could have a concert on a Friday night, a college game on Saturday, and an NFL game on Sunday. And nobody’s coming in for one day. So each one of those will fill up all the hotels, not just mine. So I’m doing it as a community effort. I don’t need it. I could live without it. It doesn’t move the needle for our company or any of the four [big local casino] properties to do it, Wynn, Sands, Caesars, and MGM. How did you get [Raiders owner] Mark Davis on board? Sheldon Adelson: I’ve talked with him several times, I’ve had lunch with him. But listen, this is not something that Sheldon Adelson is selling to somebody else. It takes two to tango. [The Raiders did not respond to requests for comment; KTNV reports that Davis and Adelson met again in Las Vegas on Wednesday to go over the latest draft of the stadium proposal.] If [Davis] wants to come to Vegas, he’s gotta get a team, he’s gotta get a stadium. He can’t build a stadium himself, otherwise he would have built it in Oakland. He needs somebody to build it and he needs somebody with a deep pocket that can guarantee it and somebody with some political influence that can arrange to get the money from the room tax. I’m one of the four big operators in town, so it’s not difficult for me. I’ve done a lot of building and I can guarantee the construction. And if the local government knows I’m behind it, they can feel comfortable because I’ve changed the town, in regards to conventions. So it’s about past success, when you make the case to others. Sheldon Adelson: But I’m not going to sell Davis; either he wants it or he doesn’t want it. The matter is very simple. I could live with any deal, I could live without any deal. A guy in my position doesn’t need anything. I’ve got everything I need, I can do anything I want. I don’t need this. If I’m going to have to go out and beg Mark Davis or somebody else to do it, I’m out. If they want to find somebody who is desperate as a football fan and wants to be a part of a football club, then they picked the wrong guy. That’s not me. Look, I’ve built 70 million square feet. I’m one of the largest developers in the world, or at least in the United States. So I’ve done a lot of building. To build a million and a half square feet is like a rounding error for me. So it’s not a problem for me to build that much. No problem. The only other guy that has built big properties is Steve Wynn. MGM has only built CityCenter and that was a massive failure. It’s been seven years in existence and they’re just starting to get a little bit of return. Low single digits. That’s the only property they developed. Then they built some convention space in Mandalay Bay. Harrah’s has never built anything. They’ve just acquired and bought other properties. So, who’s going to build it, other than me? Wynn could build it. Others haven’t built anything. Steve Wynn is a sort of rival of yours; have you spoken to Wynn about this, has he expressed interest in being involved? Sheldon Adelson:We’re not exactly rivals in this. He has spoken to my people, he would like to be involved. But this is a personal thing and not a company thing. [A spokesperson for Wynn Las Vegas tells Yahoo Finance, “We are certainly supportive of the stadium concept; it would be a tremendous addition to Las Vegas”.] The stadium is for the community. It’s a community effort to benefit the community. It’s going to have very little benefit for Sheldon Adelson. But you did say it will help you rent more rooms in the off-season. That benefits you. Sheldon Adelson: Every hotel will benefit. That’s why it’s a community effort. It appears your challenge now is to get $750 million in county funding – how difficult will that be? It hasn’t been so difficult. It’s not a one-time grant, it’s $50 million a year for 15 years that will guarantee a $750 million mortgage. [Other reports have suggested it will be less than $50 million per year, over a period closer to 30 years.] And remember, that money doesn’t go to me, it goes to a stadium authority. The county will collect the room tax that we as hotel operators collect for them. And then they allocate the room tax. We’re only talking about $750 million. [Clark County] collects more than $300 million a year in room taxes. [In 2015 it was actually up to $606 million, according to the SNTIC.] So they’re not taking it out of taxpayers’ pockets. The local residents understand that the tourists will pay for it and they [locals] won’t even notice it. And is that really the case? The tourists are essentially paying for it? Sheldon Adelson: Yes. In other cities, the local taxpayers pay for it, because they don’t have a tourist base. But all of our hotels, for the most part, are occupied by tourists, who pay a room tax. So the local residents here won’t feel any imposition of taxes. Let’s say the room tax is 12%, maybe the tax goes up to 12.75%. But I know that it will be less than a 1% increase in room tax. Would you consider raising your own commitment if the public funding does not come through for $750 million? Sheldon Adelson: No, because the cost is too high and we won’t be able to do it without that amount. It would increase the required size of the equity investment to the point where it would be unfeasible. The general expectation is that if this works out, and the Raiders move, you will get an ownership stake in the team. Is that likely? Sheldon Adelson: I am taking the risk to guarantee the completion of the stadium. I think it’s going to significantly help the value of the team, so I’d like to get some interest in it. But if I took an option on the team, the interest size of the option would have to be approved by the NFL. UNLV also wants the new stadium. Will you help finance a new stadium even if the Raiders don’t move to Las Vegas? Sheldon Adelson: If I don’t get a professional football team I’m not going to do it. It’s going to lose money otherwise. That’s why municipalities and government have to put up the money. If you want that kind of economic development for your city, the city government has to help to finance it. Since the NFL owners will vote on whether the Raiders can move, have you tried to talk to owners and win them over? Might they object to you being an owner because you are in the gaming industry? [The NFL declined to comment for this story; there is no explicit prohibition under NFL rules on a team moving to any particular city, but three fourths of the owners will need to approve it.] Sheldon Adelson: I’ve met with Jerry Jones and I’ve talked to Bobby [Kraft]. Bob is the chairman of the committee for relocation in the NFL. He’s in favor of it. It’s an old wives’ tales that they [the NFL] say gambling is no good. I’ve read that 28 of the 32 teams have interest in fantasy sports. Well, that’s gambling. So 28 teams are involved in gambling. [28 of the 32 NFL teams have marketing deals with either DraftKings or FanDuel. For more of Adelson’s views on daily fantasy sports, check back with us on Friday for a followup interview.] It’s an ‘old wives’ tale’ that a gambling executive can’t be an NFL part-owner? Sheldon Adelson: No, it’s an old wives’ tale that they won’t base a football game in a city or state that has gambling, that’s the old wives’ tale. But look, the Rooney family [Pittsburgh Steelers] owns a casino in Yonkers. [Tim Rooney, son of Steelers founding owner Art Rooney, owns Empire City Casino in New York.] What kind of NFL owner would you be? Would you be like Steve Ballmer, going to the games, getting involved? Sheldon Adelson: No, no. Listen, I bought the local newspaper. I haven’t been to the building once. I’ve owned it 10 months now and I’ve only met one editor. I haven’t interfered with the newspaper. [Note: Many critics disagree; more on that further down.] It’s an investment. This is like that. Would I be a football nut if I took a piece? Maybe, but unlikely. Would I go to every game? No. If I’m an owner, I’m not going to be a fanatic. But my children would be. Many say an NFL team in Las Vegas wouldn’t have a devoted fan base. Are they wrong? Sheldon Adelson: It’s very difficult to say. I think that any professional sports team that comes to Vegas will find a willing audience. The people that come to town come with their fandom. They are fans of the teams from the cities from which they come. Would they be a fan of a local team? I’ve thought about that, and I think they could be. They may not be as enthusiastic or want to spend the same money they would on the team they’ve supported for decades, but they certainly would go to the stadium when their former hometown team comes in. Why else would Vegas be a good place for an NFL team? Sheldon Adelson: Well, there’s 2.1 million people in the Vegas valley. It is basically a transient town, many people come here in between jobs and leave, but a lot of people do stay. I’ve been here 25 years. My home is no longer Boston. I’ve said in the past that the citizenry was too transient and they come here with loyalty to another team, but hey, they could have two loyalties. Do you think any potential political contributions you make during this election cycle could have an impact on the stadium project? [Adelson is a major Republican political donor and gave $20 million to Newt Gingrich four years ago.] Sheldon Adelson: I’ve never had such a thought. It’s not an issue. Getting this approved has nothing to do with having given money to politicians. Either it’s a good deal for the community or it’s not. There was a report that reporters at the Las Vegas Review Journal received a memo asking them to ask local lawmakers how they would vote about the stadium; the suggestion is that you asked the editors to do this as a way for you to gauge which way votes might go. Do you have a comment on this? The newspaper has nothing to do with the stadium. If the editor thinks it’s worthwhile, let him do stories on it, but I don’t control the editorial and I didn’t give any order about this. [Note: Glenn Cook, managing editor of the Review-Journal, told Deadspin, “We completely deny any allegation that our reporters are collecting information for our owner.”] Everybody thinks I’m using the newspaper to push my own personal affairs. You know, our family owns a newspaper in Israel, and everybody thinks I’m using it to push Bibi Netanyahu. We don’t push Netanyahu. Listen, the paper has been around for 75 years. We’ve got a 350,000 print run every weekday, and 550,000 on the weekends. Do you think we can fool 550,000 people to read a newspaper if they believe the newspaper supports Bibi? We’d have to fool 550,000. This is a narrative from our competitor who wants to discredit the newspaper. The Review-Journal is independent. How will you feel if, for whatever reason, the stadium doesn’t happen? Sheldon Adelson: I don’t get that passionate about items. Like I said before, I could live with it or without it. I’m not that passionate. Do you think guys like Buffett or Gates are passionate about something like this? They can buy a football team or basketball team with the stroke of a pen, and so can I. So there’s no reason to be passionate about this. It would be a financial interest for me, that’s all, like buying the newspaper or completion of airplanes. It would be a business hobby.
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quote:Would you consider raising your own commitment if the public funding does not come through for $750 million? gently caress you gently caress you gently caress YOU
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The cost to build this stadium is nothong to me but im a huge rear end baby wah wah wah
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It's for the community the community the community!!! Help build a stadium for unlv? gently caress that poo poo
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how the gently caress does he have a "17 y/o" son? 
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Lessail posted:It's for the community the community the community!!!
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bawfuls posted:When he says "community" he means himself and other hotel owners. He says so explicitly: "Every hotel will benefit. That’s why it’s a community effort." And he's a piece of poo poo that can gently caress off
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Ghoul rear end doo doo rear end Texas Chainsaw rear end monster rear end grasping rear end motherfucker
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