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THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.

Auron posted:

With Apple's iPhone upgrade plan, are you allowed to put money down to reduce the monthly payment, or do you have to do $0 down?

Why would you pay extra into a program designed to let you trade in the device halfway through the payment plan? You'd be getting half the value of your upfront payment.

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Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:

Why would you pay extra into a program designed to let you trade in the device halfway through the payment plan? You'd be getting half the value of your upfront payment.

What? That just doesn't make any sense. Putting $200 down right away would be like paying $200 over a year...just with a lower payment. Its not like you're magically losing money when you trade in.

suddenlyissoon
Feb 17, 2002

Don't be sad that I am gone.

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

If a hard pull on your credit is causing that much of an issue, you can't afford one of the two.

You haven't bought a house lately. Everything is scrutinized, even at a 836 FICO score.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



I feel like I'm considering a 7 Plus just because of the improved feature set and having a bigger screen is never a bad thing. I do have small hands though, so not sure if it would just irritate me in use. Anyone take the jump with similar concerns before? How did it turn out for you?

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.

Auron posted:

What? That just doesn't make any sense. Putting $200 down right away would be like paying $200 over a year...just with a lower payment. Its not like you're magically losing money when you trade in.

The iPhone upgrade plan is a two year repayment schedule. So if you pay 200$ on 900$ then the payments will be 700 stretched over 2 years.

If you pay nothing down on $900, it will cost 37.50 a month for 2 years

If you pay $200 down on $900, it will cost $29.17 a month for 2 years

After one year you can trade it in and begin your contract over again.

So after 1 year with no down, you have paid in $450

After 1 year with $200 down you have paid in $350 in installments + $200 down = $550 total

So yes, paying 200$ or whatever up front is literally throwing half of the down payment away.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:

The iPhone upgrade plan is a two year repayment schedule. So if you pay 200$ on 900$ then the payments will be 700 stretched over 2 years.

If you pay nothing down on $900, it will cost 37.50 a month for 2 years

If you pay $200 down on $900, it will cost $29.17 a month for 2 years

After one year you can trade it in and begin your contract over again.

So after 1 year with no down, you have paid in $450

After 1 year with $200 down you have paid in $350 in installments + $200 down = $550 total

So yes, paying 200$ or whatever up front is literally throwing half of the down payment away.

I don't believe that's how it works, if so, anybody trading in their phone to start the upgrade program would be getting hosed. Wouldn't the extra paid in be rolled over into the next loan as a down payment, similar to an auto loan where you owe less than your trade in value?

Auron fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Sep 9, 2016

LODGE NORTH
Jul 30, 2007

You can pay ahead, yes.

Also, hello iPhone thread. The new 7 sucks, therefore you should buy my 6S.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3789342

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

enojy posted:

Yea, I'm sticking with the 6S too. I'd love to play with the dual camera setup on the 7+, but I love my headphone port (and $850) much more.

I mean, it would really be like $200 or so instead of $850 since your 6S still fetches resale value assuming it's in decent condition.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
One of the youtubers there was talking about how you can plug the headphones in either way since it's lighting now lol.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Auron posted:

I don't believe that's how it works, if so, anybody trading in their phone to start the upgrade program would be getting hosed. Wouldn't the extra paid in be rolled over into the next loan as a down payment, similar to an auto loan where you owe less than your trade in value?

No, if you sign on for a new 24 month term,and return the device, Apple forgives the second 12 months of the first term.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Don Lapre posted:

One of the youtubers there was talking about how you can plug the headphones in either way since it's lighting now lol.

Not unlike the standard 3.5mm plug! That's genius of them.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004
Geek Bench apparently is reporting that the 7 Plus has 3gb ram so that's pretty neat.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Lblitzer posted:

Geek Bench apparently is reporting that the 7 Plus has 3gb ram so that's pretty neat.

Yeah that was in the keynote.

Housh
Jul 9, 2001




Lblitzer posted:

Geek Bench apparently is reporting that the 7 Plus has 3gb ram so that's pretty neat.
Yeah, boi. Fuckboi portrait mode selfies here we come!!

3:01 am

gypsyshred
Oct 23, 2006
I'd imagine we're not going to know for sure for two weeks, but is the fidelity of the audio at least any better over lighting? It always bothered me how bad the sound was on earpods.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

gypsyshred posted:

I'd imagine we're not going to know for sure for two weeks, but is the fidelity of the audio at least any better over lighting? It always bothered me how bad the sound was on earpods.

The actually headphone jack out of Apple products was usually pretty well regarded when used with nice headphones. Pack-in EarPods aren't nice headphones, so don't expect any different just because they're plugged into a different hole.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001

Shillary posted:

No, if you sign on for a new 24 month term,and return the device, Apple forgives the second 12 months of the first term.

So essentially if you're planning on trading in the phone to Apple ASAP, it doesn't make sense to pay more than the minimum required payments. If you're planning on buying it straight-out when you upgrade to the new phone (so you can sell the old one independently), then sure, go ahead and pay more than the minimum requirement if you want. You're going to be paying full price at one point or another anyway.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
Verizon now copying tmobile offer

http://www.verizon.com/about/news/get-next-gen-iphones-next-gen-network-available-verizon-lte-advanced-beginning-friday-september

You can all thank tmobile for this lol

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
So out of curiosity, how does this part work? Doesn't seem like the numbers/timing add up:

649.99 device payment purchase req’d. Less $649.99 trade-in credit applied to account over 24 mos; credit begins in 2-3 bill cycles & ends when balance paid;

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
They put $27 a month on your bill and then a $27 credit every month on your bill.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
Right but it says the credit doesn't kick in for 2-3 cycles. Does the billing not kick in until then? That would be surprising.

Stutes
Oct 13, 2005

Tonight's the Night
For those not looking to take advantage of the Verizon trade-in deal (since apparently annual upgraders like me would forfeit half of the $650 credit), the My Verizon iOS app will already let you place preorders - all you have to do is go through the upgrade process as normal, and when selecting the new device press the search (magnifying glass) button. If you type in 'iPhone 7' or 'iPhone 7+' it will link you to the product page and let you proceed to checkout.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

MarcusSA posted:

Yeah that was in the keynote.

That's a first, right? Usually we have to wait for the iFixit teardown.

beergod
Nov 1, 2004
NOBODY WANTS TO SEE PICTURES OF YOUR UGLY FUCKING KIDS YOU DIPSHIT
Preorders up for anyone on Verizon's website?

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

beergod posted:

Preorders up for anyone on Verizon's website?

negative :smithcloud:

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

I am refreshing like a madman r/n

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

carriers are all late it seems

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Apple is too.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
Is it better to buy carrier or through apple?

Kailtor
Jun 7, 2005

fucking kailtor

Ask me about my lifetime subscription

:ughh: :ughh:

Avocados posted:

Is it better to buy carrier or through apple?

Apple is more of a guaranteed first day phone typically if you can get through.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Didn't preorders start 13 minutes ago? Getting that the website and app are down.

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know
Oh god they let the guy who runs the apple twitter manage the preorders

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Boris Galerkin posted:

Didn't preorders start 13 minutes ago? Getting that the website and app are down.

They went up about 2 minutes ago.

Everybody is busy placing orders instead of making "It's up!" posts I assume.

the poi
Oct 24, 2004

turbo volvo, wooooo!
Grimey Drawer
So im on ATT, but Im going to switch to Verizon next year--how in the world do i order a Verizon/Sprint phone without an account?

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
9 minutes after. The store goes up and a 256 7+ Matte Black cant be sent to me until the 27th and no stores can pick up.

Kailtor
Jun 7, 2005

fucking kailtor

Ask me about my lifetime subscription

:ughh: :ughh:
Reservation confirmed in the fastest time ever. Good luck with copy and pasting your serial number if you're on the upgrade program and also on your phone! :v:

beergod
Nov 1, 2004
NOBODY WANTS TO SEE PICTURES OF YOUR UGLY FUCKING KIDS YOU DIPSHIT
I keep getting booted from the Verizon page. God these people are incompetent.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Verizon doesn't even have the options up yet

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Anyone get an order in yet on T-Mobile's site?

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Feenix posted:

9 minutes after. The store goes up and a 256 7+ Matte Black cant be sent to me until the 27th and no stores can pick up.

Seems like the Plus and/or Jet Black are either not going to be ready for the 16th, or sold out in a couple of milliseconds. Everybody's saying similar dates.

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