D1E posted:

Uh yeah click on the link and read it first buddy.

Derek is clowning around.

Iglocska posted:

It looks like Lethality accidentally while talking about enforcing rules broke a rule, so I made sure to let him know!

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/53ulnp/leaks_from_a_game_developers_perspective/d7wqbch

D_Smart posted:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/law-professor-trump-can-be-impeached-for-fraud-and-racketeering-before-he-even-takes-office/

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“In the United States, it is illegal for businesses to use false statements to convince consumers to purchase their services,” Peterson wrote in a paper published Monday titled "Star Citizen and The Dream Scam". “The evidence indicates that CIG/RSI used a systemic pattern of fraudulent representations to trick thousands of Spergs into investing in a program that can be argued was a sham.”

grimcreaper posted:

Thanks for ruining my night. I hope Derek bans you now. GoogleButt was right.

thatguy posted:

That's kind of shocking. I figured Lethality would be a big hit over there.

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I unironically look forward to 3.0 going Live. It's late this year, right?

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There is not "a few hours" of content ingame, c'mon.

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Like that but in the actual game instead of a movie.

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Indeed it will be much easier to coordinate 16 people than 200.

Mirificus posted:

A Socioeconomical Perspective on Grim Hex

Edited for BLUF (aka TL:DR): In the absence of a structured institutionalized government, mankind will always find itself organized in order to pursue common goals, even if loosely. Through said organization, paramount among all other aspects would be security, as without security, even if only offering a false perception of security, there would be no incentive to form a collective body (i.e. a port of Grim Hex).

The devs should look for a way to decentivize anti-social behavior around social hubs, while protecting individual rights to play and experience the game in a manner that is free and in the spirit of freedom of choice in the Universe. The OP suggests that this decentivization come in the form of harsh consequences in the form of automated NPC security guards, while still allowing the player the ability to commit such crimes in a specified vicinity (i.e. you can fire on other players, as you are able to now, but when you do so within the vicinity of Grim Hex, then pirate security guards will be alerted and attack you).


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As I exited the "they've gone plaid" that is quantum travel into the Yela meteor belt, I quickly located and closed in towards the bustling pirate oasis that is Grim Hex. Touted to be the Crusader System's "Mos Eisley," Grim Hex is a (near) lawless haven of scum and villainy; just the place I'm looking for.

As I piloted my Gladius closer, a Hornet, having recently left the facility, passed by me in the opposite direction, roughly 5000 km away. A safe distance, in these parts. When I had finally arrived at my destination, strafing up over the horizon of the rock formation protecting the mining facility from outside onlookers, I quickly identified two things; first was a landing zone for me to set down my ship, and the second was another Hornet, hovering over the facility and staring right at me. I immediately halted, preparing for a fight to just enter this hollowed out rock; but the Hornet didn't move, and I slowly approached and landed without any incident. As I scurried to find the entrance, having no prior knowledge of any sort of firearm prohibition (a'la Port Olisar), I noticed that the Hornet, now moving, was still pointed directly at me, now on foot, running through the corridors to find the entrance. Finally, after an excitingly uneventful five to ten minutes; I had found, landed, and entered into Grim Hex, where weapons were not permitted to be used inside of the facility.

A few minutes later, while running around Grim Hex, I heard some shooting from ships outside, then an explosion, and noticed that my ship had been blown up.

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What's the point of me telling this story?

The point is to bring some additional thought to the, presumptive, anarchist paradise that is Grim Hex, and to the vast array of follow-on sister locations where pirates and ne'er-do-wells will seek to congregate.

Most of us have seen the glorious motion picture that is Star Wars: Episode 4. The idea of a near-lawless bastion of freedom, such as Mos Eisley, appeals to many people [insert political rhetoric about small government here]. However, Grim Hex, as it stands today in the game (before you hit that "Comment" button; yes, I know; everything is subject to change; that's why I'm posting this perspective for discussion), is not realistic on the grounds of socioeconomics.

Yes, I can suspend many beliefs of astro-mining facilities being suspended with cables (or whatever they are) to asteroids in a belt around a barren moon; I follow all of that. But the economist inside of me can't suspend the belief that, at the root core, Grim Hex is a port, and ports exist for one singular reason: to make money (especially if ran by pirates).

In order for any business, inside of Grim Hex, to be successful, it must make money. In order to make money, it must have a steady flow of supply and demand (yes, this is a very simplistic argument for S&D, I'm not about to discuss the Invisible Hand of Capitalism and theories by Hayek, Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, etc in a forum about a space sim; let's just go with this for the sake of argument). Supplies must be able to freely flow into Grim Hex, and customers (demand) must be able to freely flow into, and out of, Grim Hex. If customers are unable to freely flow into the port, then the businesses will leave; when the businesses leave, then the port will cease to exist.

Let's look at this in a modern concept. All political and social joking aside, if customers were genuinely afraid of risking their lives to enter into a mall, then there would be no reason for businesses to pay the mall to have a storefront. Businesses would leave, and the mall would have to close down.

This is the same with Grim Hex. In a realistic scenario, if people were genuinely concerned that they'll be killed while trying to get into the port, then they simply won't go to said port, and the businesses within would leave. If people didn't have the ability to "magically" revive inside of Grim Hex, given their wanted level, then it's likely that, given a more severe punishment to enter and exit (as is expected in launch), they simply wouldn't go there. Therefore, in order to best maintain a port, one must properly, and securely, incentivize customers to conduct business at said port.

Furthermore, on a sociological perspective of this, it is safe to assume that Grim Hex would, in fact, not be an "anarchist paradise" (to use my earlier phrase), but would actually have its security maintained by the owner/s of Grim Hex, or by a security firm (either legitimate or illegitimate). Using the Mos Eisley example, the Hutts, a criminal mob organization, provided for most of the "goings on" and protection within the system, and there was even an agreement between the Hutts and the Empire in order to maintain security of the region.

So from a sociological perspective, mankind (and by extension, alienkind, given that they are, currently, a figment of our imaginations) will always seek to form protective societies; even if said society is thought to be an uncontrolled conglomerate of individuals.

A modern day parallel of this would be that of Somali pirates. Somalia, being a near-lawless failed state (see also, basically anarchy), provided a safehaven for pirates to join together and conduct raiding parties on civilian ships. Within these roving bands of pirates, there was still structure and organization providing for security within the "in group." Though I'm not an expert on this particular subject (my experience comes from the Middle East), I would have to imagine that it was not common for Somali pirates to murder one another as they conducted their business, or else they would be unable to work together for their collective goals.

So, too, would be the case in a galaxy far far away, one would have to conclude, based on human behavior.

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My proposal, for consideration, would be to NOT implement a firearm prohibition, like the one at Port Olisar, around Grim Hex. Instead, I would argue that there would be swift and deadly punishment for anyone who breaks the implied "truce" within the area of protection by the owner/s of Grim Hex, or its security forces.

Any sort of inappropriate behavior, within a protected area, would be seen as a violation of the social code of conduct, and would, as one can imagine, result in being a "marked man," who could expect to not live very long.


Just something to consider, as we enter and exit Grim Hex at our own risk, wondering if it's worth the effort just to buy those sweet new kicks and a "Lies" t-shirt.

Jimeth posted:

I bet this guy pronounces hyperbole, "hyper-bowl".

Tokamak posted:

I wish there were such a thing as a hyper-bowl, it sounds pretty cool.

Quavers posted:

10 for the delayed Chairman is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2SBYtj9pis

starkebn posted:

how can they claim fidelity of simulation if not for 1st and 3rd person synched animations? Next you're going to tell me simulating the oxygen level in the bloodstream is too much effort and they should just have a oxygen meter?

Quavers posted:

10 for the delayed Chairman is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2SBYtj9pis

D1E posted:

Does he say "yes" to any of the questions?

A Neurotic Jew posted:

The Titanic posted:

It's Chris Roberts, guys. Chris Roberts doesn't understand game development. The failure to understand game development is inside the house already.

D1E posted:

Does he say "yes" to any of the questions?

Quavers posted:

10 for the delayed Chairman is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2SBYtj9pis

e: it's dull

Mirificus posted:

MeLKoR posted:

Also Chris Roberts admitted that the Morrow Tour you saw was the best they could do at the time.

BUT IT LOOKS GREAT NOW GUYS, SERIOUSLY!

alphabettitouretti posted:

Jfc this guy is a weaselly little turd.

Name me one other game as open as star citizen!

*is given several examples*

Nuh uh they aren't in the same genre and I never heard of half of them so it doesn't count. Name me one other game called star citizen made by someone called Chris Roberts that is as open as star citizen! Bet you can't!

ZenMaster posted:

Anyone think Ben and Sandi have ever run into a room at the same time and yelled "I shot a pilot!" and both were right for different reasons?

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

no.

dumby posted:

D1E posted:

Oh yeah? Well you've obviously never heard of the Wing Commander series, or a little game called Freelancer then goonie.

Chris Roberts has proven himself to be the greatest space video game designer in the history of the world and it is you who clearly does not understand game development.