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cult member at airport posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A33T0RihzxM I love Kaine (he's by far my favorite person in this election), and I think he'll be able to beat Pence in a debate coming from a law background, although I don't know his experience in the space. Regardless, has the VP debate ever had any real effect on the election?
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Justin Timberwolf posted:So any bets on what the Wikileaks drop is about tomorrow? Roger Stone has promised us it will DEFINITELY BE THE END OF THE CLINTONS THIS TIME. Chapter 2 of Assange's "Drone Up My rear end" fanfiction?
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Oct 4, 2016 03:43
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I wasn't worried about Wikileaks before, but now I'm legitimately terrified they have something.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:44
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Remember when conservatives wanted to lynch Assange? The enemy of my enemy, I guess.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:45
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I've read a lot about how due to the problems with attributing attacks to skilled hacker groups with any accuracy, everyone focuses on attacking, rather than defense. As a result, US cyberdefense is not good.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:45
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CelestialScribe posted:I wasn't worried about Wikileaks before, but now I'm legitimately terrified they have something. They have something and they've been sitting on it since July because they know that it'll destroy clinton's campaign INSTANTLY and put her in prison INSTANTLY ...which is why they keep stalling...???
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Oct 4, 2016 03:46
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PotatoManJack posted:I love Kaine (he's by far my favorite person in this election), and I think he'll be able to beat Pence in a debate coming from a law background, although I don't know his experience in the space. I'm not sure if it's ever had a statistical impact. I think Biden vs Palin probably helped confirm the existing narrative of Palin as a lightweight incompetent but that narrative may have already been "baked in" going into the debates. I suspect the VP debates are like the VP pick generally: it's never going to win you the election but if you screw up horribly it might help you lose it.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:46
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Reminder that the last big 'leak' was just highlighting a bunch of stuff from their initial 'leaks' and also throwing in more personal data. Wikileaks is worthless.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:47
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Night10194 posted:He's an attempt to keep Evangelicals on board because the GOP hasn't realized 'Evangelical' mostly means 'Heretical racist who cares nothing for christ' and think they still care about 'traditional morality' over just supporting a strongman that Jesus would've beaten the poo poo out of in the Temple. If it's any consolation, the Religious Right is dying according to what I've read. It doesn't have the power now that it once did. Can't say I'll miss 'em. I might have been a Republican (probably not but still a vague possibility as opposed to completely impossible) if these bastards hadn't hijacked the Conservative movement. And personally I like Wikileaks. I don't think they have something that will destroy Hillary but it be interesting if they did. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Oct 4, 2016 03:47
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CelestialScribe posted:I wasn't worried about Wikileaks before, but now I'm legitimately terrified they have something. Thanks for reassuring me they have gently caress all, CS.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:48
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Wait, when did the next leak go from "bad for both candidates" to "Hillary is done"?
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Oct 4, 2016 03:50
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Xae posted:The three most common attacks vectors do not need any math skills. Look, man, no one's paying sticker price for that wasteland.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:50
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Spaced God posted:Remember when conservatives wanted to lynch Assange? You could flip this toward Democrats as well. Nate Silver is another good example of this (2012 vs 2014).
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Oct 4, 2016 03:50
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Spacebump posted:Wait, when did the next leak go from "bad for both candidates" to "Hillary is done"? When the polls kept coming out as good for Clinton.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:51
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CelestialScribe posted:I wasn't worried about Wikileaks before, but now I'm legitimately terrified they have something. If it were a real major bombshell they wouldn't be talking it up, they'd just drop it. My guess is they have *something* but keep this in mind: quote:Days before the November 7 election, Thomas J. Connolly of Scarborough, Maine, a prominent defense attorney and 1998 Democratic candidate for governor, confirmed to a reporter that Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush had been arrested for drunk driving in that state in 1976. Bush confirmed the report in a press conference moments after it was revealed.[19] quote:On October 2, 2003, the Los Angeles Times released a story about Arnold Schwarzenegger and subsequent allegations that he was a womanizer guilty of multiple acts of sexual misconduct in past decades. The story was released just before the 2003 California recall (which was scheduled for October 7), prompting many pundits to charge that the timing of the story was aimed specifically at derailing the recall campaign.[20] It was not the only embarrassing story about Schwarzenegger to surface just days before the campaign: the next day, ABC News and The New York Times reported that in 1975 Schwarzenegger had praised Adolf Hitler during interviews for the film Pumping Iron, which was responsible for the bodybuilder-turned-actor's fame.[21] The twin controversies later led Los Angeles Times columnist Steve Lopez to coin the term "gropenfuhrer" to describe California's governor-elect;[22] a series of Doonesbury strips made the term famous.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:51
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Spacebump posted:Wait, when did the next leak go from "bad for both candidates" to "Hillary is done"? Roger Stone has been insisting it will be 'Hillary is Done' for a week. I've heard it's supposed to be 'proof' of election rigging in the primary, lol.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:51
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Artificer posted:I've read a lot about how due to the problems with attributing attacks to skilled hacker groups with any accuracy, everyone focuses on attacking, rather than defense. As a result, US cyberdefense is not good. Its also that you can attack with a single group (the nsa), but you have to defend every server in the country. Which requires money, so states are still running all of their poo poo on windows ME because lol at money going to IT infrastructure for upgrades.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:51
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If it were a real major bombshell they wouldn't be talking it up, they'd just drop it. The other thing is, well, Assange is not a rational person and he's a huge alt-right type. What HE thinks is insanely damaging almost certainly isn't.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:53
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Well that's good since it's obvious the primary election wasn't rigged to anyone with half a brain.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:53
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The Glumslinger posted:Its also that you can attack with a single group (the nsa), but you have to defend every server in the country. Which requires money, so states are still running all of their poo poo on windows ME because lol at money going to IT infrastructure for upgrades. And companies too, because people and companies get (understandably) really really mad when the intelligence agencies want to take a look to investigate or whatnot. Unlike China, because corporations there are in bed with the government anyways.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:54
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CelestialScribe posted:I wasn't worried about Wikileaks before, but now I'm legitimately terrified they have something. It's like clockwork with you. 
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Oct 4, 2016 03:56
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah, that's what I figure. Unfortunately people use that same logic to oppose gun safes and trigger locks and anything that would make it harder for a suicidal person or curious toddler to do something irreversible. Look, let's be honest. I don't know if you've ever been suicidal, or dealt with suicidal people, but the sole and only thing that is going to prevent someone who is determined to kill themselves is confinement to a controlled environment with near constant observation. Suicide is -easy-. A trigger lock or safe that takes ten seconds to unlock isn't going to stop someone.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:56
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The Glumslinger posted:Its also that you can attack with a single group (the nsa), but you have to defend every server in the country. Which requires money, so states are still running all of their poo poo on windows ME because lol at money going to IT infrastructure for upgrades. This is why you still hear stories of politicians losing laptops, USB sticks and loving floppy disks with vital information on them. 
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Oct 4, 2016 03:56
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punk rebel ecks posted:Why is this thread so much more level headed and civilized than all the other general political threads/boards? We have no conversation to be derailed from. The major problems with rent control in the US is that in the US the rent control largely does not carry over between tenants. That provides a set of very perverse incentives for landlords to try and force tenants out of their units so they can bring the rent up to market rate for the next tenant. It isn't all greedy landlords though, cities love to shift property tax burdens from homeowners to rental stock owners. Rent control also insulates rent-controlled tenants from the consequences of housing policy. This is most evident in San Francisco where rent controlled tenants have teamed up with homeowners (enjoying their own form of rent control via prop 13) to systematically block any meaningful densification of the city. The rent controlled people don't care about the skyrocketing rent that results (until those perverse incentives get strong enough and they get kicked out via illegal Ellis Act evictions) but new residents are hosed.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:59
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Furnaceface posted:This is why you still hear stories of politicians losing laptops, USB sticks and loving floppy disks with vital information on them. People are really really dumb. 
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Oct 4, 2016 03:59
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The Glumslinger posted:so states are still running all of their poo poo on windows ME because lol at money going to IT infrastructure for upgrades. Well, I guess we're safe then since all their poo poo will just crash anyways, so no damage to be done. 
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Oct 4, 2016 03:59
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I'm a little concerned because I don't see why someone would hype something up if they had nothing. But then again I'm not an rear end in a top hat so
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Oct 4, 2016 03:59
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Night10194 posted:The other thing is, well, Assange is not a rational person and he's a huge alt-right type. What HE thinks is insanely damaging almost certainly isn't. Wait, what? Alt-Right? All I know was he was an expose the government type, which I associate with Lefties. The only politics I've seen of him was an interview he had with Noam Chomsky, the least Right guy I can think of.
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Liquid Communism posted:Look, let's be honest. I don't know if you've ever been suicidal, or dealt with suicidal people, but the sole and only thing that is going to prevent someone who is determined to kill themselves is confinement to a controlled environment with near constant observation. Suicide is -easy-. A trigger lock or safe that takes ten seconds to unlock isn't going to stop someone. The idea here is that someone who is in a real bad place can kill themselves very easily with a gun in a very short period of time, while poisoning or stabbing themselves or whatever requires more effort.
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Oct 4, 2016 04:00
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NikkolasKing posted:Wait, what? Alt-Right? All I know was he was an expose the government type, which I associate with Lefties. This year wikileaks accused its detractors of being part of a global jewish conspiracy.
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Oct 4, 2016 04:01
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sheri posted:I'm a little concerned because I don't see why someone would hype something up if they had nothing. That is like Julian Assange's MO.
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Oct 4, 2016 04:01
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lozzle posted:That is like Julian Assange's MO. Has Wikileaks actually had a genuine, significant leak since the stuff Manning happened to hand them?
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Oct 4, 2016 04:02
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NikkolasKing posted:Wait, what? Alt-Right? All I know was he was an expose the government type, which I associate with Lefties. You must have missed when he accused his critics of being part of the (((establishment))).
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punk rebel ecks posted:Personally, I've always been in favor of the Singaporing model. Just have the government own most of the apartments. http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/08/economist-explains-19
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sheri posted:I'm a little concerned because I don't see why someone would hype something up if they had nothing. The closest there was to a "real" leak was the DNC emails and I'm pretty sure those were largely dumped out of nowhere and they didn't attempt to hype it for months Every time they announce they have an announcement etc it's nothing
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Oct 4, 2016 04:03
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Liquid Communism posted:Look, let's be honest. I don't know if you've ever been suicidal, or dealt with suicidal people, but the sole and only thing that is going to prevent someone who is determined to kill themselves is confinement to a controlled environment with near constant observation. Suicide is -easy-. A trigger lock or safe that takes ten seconds to unlock isn't going to stop someone. That's ten more seconds they can doubt their decision to take their life.
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Oct 4, 2016 04:03
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After the week trump just had I feel that anything Wikileaks has would, if done correctly, break even. And that's a worst case scenario. If they really had anything to show they would have done it by now. Most likely Trump and Friends will continue trying to get out of the hole they dug by continuing to dig down and be smug about it. Could be wrong and I could go back to Arzying but I at least have my  back in the meantime.
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Oct 4, 2016 04:04
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Liquid Communism posted:Look, let's be honest. I don't know if you've ever been suicidal, or dealt with suicidal people, but the sole and only thing that is going to prevent someone who is determined to kill themselves is confinement to a controlled environment with near constant observation. Suicide is -easy-. A trigger lock or safe that takes ten seconds to unlock isn't going to stop someone. Actually there is pretty strong evidence that making suicide more inconvenient will deter a lot of people: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/02/a-simple-way-to-reduce-suicides/?hp quote:In September 1998, Britain changed the packaging for paracetamol, the active ingredient in Tylenol, to require blister packs for packages of 16 pills when sold over the counter in places like convenience stores, and for packages of 32 pills in pharmacies. The result: a study by Oxford University researchers showed that over the subsequent 11 or so years, suicide deaths from Tylenol overdoses declined by 43 percent, and a similar decline was found in accidental deaths from medication poisonings. In addition, there was a 61 percent reduction in liver transplants attributed to Tylenol toxicities. (Although it was a long and detailed study, some studies got a different result. One in Ireland, for example, found no reduction in overdoses.)
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skeet decorator posted:Actually there is pretty strong evidence that making suicide more inconvenient will deter a lot of people: On phone so I can't look it up but there was a similar control in South Korea for a poison that was easily accessible that significantly reduced overall suicides
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