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Sinestro posted:There are a lot of people who I strongly disagree with who I'd say that I respect, Goldwater among them. Please elaborate
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Instant Sunrise posted:yeah as a woman who supported sanders i don't recall anything from the clinton campaign that made it sound like they expected us to fall in line for her They're going to reply with the Albright quote, even though she has been saying that exact same line for years.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:13
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Augus posted:Russia is kinda creating a situation where being confrontational is absolutely necessary unless you're a complete maniac cough like trump cough Also, Obama's foreign policy has been much more aggressive than most people realize. It just rarely makes the news over here.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:13
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Instant Sunrise posted:yeah as a woman who supported sanders i don't recall anything from the clinton campaign that made it sound like they expected us to fall in line for her A couple of her... Is surrogates the right term? Made some not-great comments. That "there's a special place in hell for women who don't support women" one is the one that stands out to me. Hillary herself I don't recall acting like that, though.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:14
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:I really enjoyed this part from last night. It makes me laugh. That should be the takeaway from this debate. Kaine bringing up solid issues and fears about Trump and Pence dismissing them like never happened then attacking Hillary for stuff conservatives imagine Obama did. Republicans are scum garbage people.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:14
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never thought about it like that...
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I'm the white nationalist respecter.
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Instant Sunrise posted:yeah as a woman who supported sanders i don't recall anything from the clinton campaign that made it sound like they expected us to fall in line for her
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Oct 6, 2016 03:15
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NikkolasKing posted:I said I respected him for trying to fight the Religious Right. You didn't, though. Please, seriously, lurk D&D more. This is coming from someone whose posting here would have gotten a probation (minimum) a few years ago. You're coming off as way more awful than I think you honestly are.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:15
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i have no respect for barry "i invented the goddamn southern strategy and voted against the civil rights act of 1964" goldwater
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Oct 6, 2016 03:16
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Pastrymancy posted:Please elaborate I respect people with strong principles and who are honest about their goals and viewpoint, I'm not going to vote for the guy (obviously  ), I just can respect him more than most of the modern ultra-conservative shitheels.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:17
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https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/783850273420738560
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Oct 6, 2016 03:18
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Sinestro posted:I respect people with strong principles and who are honest about their goals and viewpoint, I'm not going to vote for the guy (obviously Not to be cute, but doesn't that describe Hitler?
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Oct 6, 2016 03:18
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_29yvYpf4w ???
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Oct 6, 2016 03:19
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Covok posted:
This would be a fascinating social experiment if it wasn't in the middle of an avenue to power. What a bizarre situation.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:19
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Nessus posted:I think Madeline Albright said something rude/ignorant? Yeah she said 500,000 disappointed women was an acceptable price to pay to achieve our objectives in Iraq. Haha! Just kidding, that was 500,000 dead Iraqi children.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:19
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Oct 6, 2016 03:19
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Haha oh wow
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Oct 6, 2016 03:20
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Yes Sean, go after the future of your network, you cannot lose.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:21
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Did anyone ever ask Hannity about Trump, by the way?
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Oct 6, 2016 03:21
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I would say that I respect the Nazis more than the modern American far right... That's not a high bar.
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ImpAtom posted:Did anyone ever ask Hannity about Trump, by the way? There was a podcast that called him live on air Hannity hung up
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Oct 6, 2016 03:22
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Sinestro posted:I respect people with strong principles and who are honest about their goals and viewpoint, I'm not going to vote for the guy, I just can respect him more than most of the modern ultra-conservative shitheels. holy poo poo dude. the man wanted to use nuclear weapons in vietnam his campaign invented the southern strategy that created the modern republican party he voted against the civil rights act he was one of the ultra-conservative shitheels for his time
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Oct 6, 2016 03:22
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Hannity is obviously going to go to the Trump Network, but it'd be funny if Trump doesn't intend to actually do that and Hannity hosed himself over for nothing.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:25
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GalacticAcid posted:Yeah she said 500,000 disappointed women was an acceptable price to pay to achieve our objectives in Iraq. You realize she was talking about sanctions on Iraq and not the war in Iraq, right? Also she was asked a lovely question: quote:In May 1996 Madeleine Albright, who was then the U.S. ambassador to the UN, was asked by 60 Minutes correspondent Lesley Stahl, in reference to years of U.S.-led economic sanctions against Iraq,
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Oct 6, 2016 03:25
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Trabisnikof posted:You realize she was talking about sanctions on Iraq and not the war in Iraq, right? Yes I'm aware of that. I'm not a loving idiot.
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Oct 6, 2016 03:26
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Instant Sunrise posted:holy poo poo dude. where did I say that he wasn't one??? among ultraconservative shitheels of the years, I respect him more than the current crop it's not complicated
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Oct 6, 2016 03:26
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Hannity is on the way out and he knows it. The Murdoch boys aren't big on Ailes and his toadies. I'm betting as soon as his contract is up they'll part ways after being unable to reach an agreement and Hannity will retreat back to Talk Radio. They'll blow through a bunch of generic establishment conservatives in his time slot for a few years until they find one that works. Instant Sunrise posted:holy poo poo dude. The only thing Goldwater did right was realize that the Evangelicals were going to take over and kill the party.
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GalacticAcid posted:Yes I'm aware of that. I'm not a loving idiot. Well your posting doesn't make that clear. Do you think sanctions against Saddam's Iraq was a bad idea?
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Oct 6, 2016 03:27
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Crow Jane posted:Governor Hogan of Maryland isn't completely awful, for a Republican. He's at least on record saying he has no plans to support Trump. I still kinda hate him, though. Hogan is awful, he took a bunch of money for mass transit and re-directed it to the communities that are dying on the vine as Maryland becomes Baltimore-centric instead of DC-centric. Also, he appointed a dude who unironically was using the MD state police as a domestic spying group against anti-Iraq war protestors to head the state's homeland security, he's been playing political football with Baltimore County because Hogan and Franchot are both terrified of Kamenetz running for governor, he repealed the OH MY GARSH!!! rain tax because some Luntz-level rear end in a top hat came up with the term rain tax and now the commercial and industrial lots with shittons of impervious areas are having the stormwater management being subsidized by those with smaller lots and higher property values and he's directing any heroin aid to anywhere but Baltimore he's just some dude that was authoritarian enough during the ebola scare (white America was terrified of ISIS sleeper agents puking ebola into their Chipotle), got cancer, beat cancer (hooray!) and just has generic lovely policies to gently caress over growth in the state because of far-flung racist towns think they matter also MD keeps electing Republican governors because it is held in non-presidential years
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Sinestro posted:I would say that I respect the Nazis more than the modern American far right... That's not a high bar. One could almost say that they don't exist in a mutually exclusive environment
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Trabisnikof posted:Well your posting doesn't make that clear. I do, especially in conjunction with the Iraq Liberation Act. Making regime change our official policy helped grease the wheels for Bush to garner bipartisan support for the invasion. The sanctions killed a shitload of Iraqis and they weren't worth it imo.
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GalacticAcid posted:I do, especially in conjunction with the Iraq Liberation Act. Making regime change our official policy helped grease the wheels for Bush to garner bipartisan support for the invasion. So what should our policy with Iraq have been in your perfect world then?
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Since I'm sick of Ali Vitali being posted and making me reflexively think about Ali Velshi i'm going to post some tweets of his to get it out of my system. http://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/775765717274755073 Lamb Chowder fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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Oct 6, 2016 03:30
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Apparently, Trump has decided he hates transgender people now. Probably always did and the bathroom was an anomaly. He complained about "our PC military accepting transgender soldiers."
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Oct 6, 2016 03:32
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/299473-trump-threatens-to-sue-over-nasty-campaign-ads Yes, Donald, sue your political opponents for libel, while you're running for president. I loving dare you.
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ImpAtom posted:Okay. Feel free to link those articles. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us/politics/gloria-steinem-madeleine-albright-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html As for what Hillary herself said: quote:SANDERS: So, Rachel, yes, Secretary Clinton does represent the establishment. I represent, I hope, ordinary Americans, and by the way — who are not all that enamored with the establishment. But I am very proud to have people like Keith Ellison and Raul Grijalva in the House, the co-chairmen of the House Progressive Caucus. Now, I'm not some Alt-Right shithead. There are women who suffer everyday from discrimination. Do I think a millionaire who knows most of the leaders of the world and is married to a former president is one of them? She's been in the upper echelons of American politics for a couple decades. But her sex keeps her from being part of "the establishment"? Now I think Bernie was being a bit too Leftist by even using a word like "The Establishment." That's 60s hippie talk and really vague. But I still think Hillary's counter is just as ridiculous. Pyroxene Stigma posted:You didn't, though. Please, seriously, lurk D&D more. This is coming from someone whose posting here would have gotten a probation (minimum) a few years ago. You're coming off as way more awful than I think you honestly are. NikkolasKing posted:I respect Barry Goldwater. He didn't die that long ago although he was part of the Conservative movement of 50-60 years ago. The one that actually believed in less government instead of using the government to bully everyone into being Christian. I loving hate American Conservatism but I really hate the Religious Right. Whatever was bad about Conservatives 50 years ago, it got ten times worse when those fanatics came into power. The point of Conservatives is to get the government out of peoples' lives, not to regulate their lives by legislating morality. Maybe I'm romanticizing it because I never had to experience it while I've had to live with the plague of the Christian Right all my life.
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Xae posted:Hannity is on the way out and he knows it. The Murdoch boys aren't big on Ailes and his toadies. And it's really hard to feel that bad for Kelly when she did have Trump in that ridiculous primetime special, and was just as soft on him as Hannity has been. They're all awful people. Covok posted:Apparently, Trump has decided he hates transgender people now. Probably always did and the bathroom was an anomaly. He complained about "our PC military accepting transgender soldiers."
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Would someone please call Sean Hannity?
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Covok posted:Would someone please call Sean Hannity? https://youtu.be/wDGLSRPQ5B4
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NikkolasKing posted:Do I think a millionaire who knows most of the leaders of the world and is married to a former president is one of them? So your argument is literally "she can't be discriminated against, she's rich and famous." NikkolasKing posted:But her sex keeps her from being part of "the establishment"? Yes? Are you aware you are literally making an alt-right argument? Do you think racism was ended when Barack Obama became President? Do you think he never suffered any discrimination, prejudice or hatred based off his race after he became President? Prejudice and discrimination don't end when you become famous. At best it takes on a different shape. Edit: Again, I want to be clear here. You don't believe Hillary Clinton's sex has ever been an issue and used negatively against her during the 2016 campaign season or that people have chosen not to vote for her based off her gender. I want to be sure this is the argument you're making and you're not phrasing this poorly. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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