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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Furnaceface posted:

Can someone please educate my dumb Canadian rear end why supporting UHC is seen as the devil to so many Americans?
I'll let Lee Atwater explain.

Lee Atwater posted:

You start out in 1954 by saying, "friend of the family, friend of the family, friend of the family." By 1968 you can't say "friend of the family" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "friend of the family, friend of the family."

In other words: Because it helps black people.

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Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Scott Adams might actually be retarded

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

trash person posted:

GOP conference call schedule for Monday morning!!!!!

Reince Priebus is going to show up in a Hockey mask and a machete and just go to town.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

You don't say.

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

trash person posted:

Bachmann was the dutiful soldier on CNN earlier today so I could see it.

Trump would announce it by throwing Tic-Tacs at her and grabbing her by her vagina.

They have quite a bit in common. Antivax leanings, an aversion to campaign finance disclosures, I'm sure Donald has also hid in the bushes to watch lesbians....

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

BigRed0427 posted:

Reince Priebus is going to show up in a Hockey mask and a machete and just go to town.

He can't be harmed until they get him to say his name backwards to get him back into that puzzle box, so he could totally pull a Slasher if he wanted.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Jazerus posted:

Yeah, I think they are two separate insults that just happen to be the same word. The more innocuous one originated from fashion/hip-hop, while the transphobic racist pedophilic homophobic meaning is from 4chan. "Boi" used to be a linguistic tic associated with Asian or Asian-American gamers, and then came to have an association with trans people - maybe due to an underlying sense of sexual ambiguity in misspelling "boy". When discussing 4chan, the underage angle is pretty obvious, and then bam, you have the most degrading thing a GamerGater-type can think of. This is all poo poo that's been simmering in the dark parts of the internet for like 15 years now coming together into concise insults instead of thinly veiled dogwhistling.

Boi came to trans folks, IIRC, because it was a butch lesbian thing previously.

tecnocrat
Oct 5, 2003
Struggling to keep his sanity.



CNN is airing the Stern audio now. This is fantastic.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

It seems like everyone who's defending Trump over this is completely missing the sexual assault aspect of the story and thinks it's just the coarse language language and/or adultery that's the controversial part.

Invader Zym
Sep 19, 2002

Furnaceface posted:

Can someone please educate my dumb Canadian rear end why supporting UHC is seen as the devil to so many Americans?

also Death Panels, the most metal healthcare system ever.

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!
Part of a whole series on how Trump can keep making things worse for the GOP,

https://twitter.com/joshuagreen/status/784924809926938624

https://twitter.com/joshuagreen/status/784925098067259392

Yes Trump, for gods sake please do this. You are absolutely qualified and prepared to take on a criminal defense attorney about one of her old cases, one who has spent her entire adult life fending off attacks from others. You will certainly handle this is a sensitive and tasteful manner. You most definitely will not undermine a fundamental tenant of our legal system by questioning whether the accused should have representation in a court of law. And it will all be on national tv!

Edit: cleaned up formatting because I'm real bad at posting links

Thaddius the Large fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Oct 9, 2016

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Pakled posted:

It seems like everyone who's defending Trump over this is completely missing the sexual assault aspect of the story and thinks it's just the coarse language language and/or adultery that's the controversial part.
I'm guessing there's a loving metric shitload or two of these men (it's men, obviously) who literally think: "I'd love it if a rich woman came up and grabbed my junk, so obviously so would any woman, right?"

Like they don't actually perceive this as sexual assault.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
https://mobile.twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/784924155858870272/photo/1

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
I feel gross for ever liking Dilbert (the animated series, not the strip). I wasn't aware how much Adams wishes he was Dogbert, and Trump has lived out that fantasy for him.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Nessus posted:

Like they don't actually perceive this as sexual assault.

Yuuuup.

The Dilbert Guy posted:

So don’t assume the women were unwilling. (Has anyone come forward to complain about Trump?)

If you want to label Trump’s sexual behavior “abnormal” you’re on shaky ground.

:psyduck:

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Pakled posted:

It seems like everyone who's defending Trump over this is completely missing the sexual assault aspect of the story and thinks it's just the coarse language language and/or adultery that's the controversial part.

They all think it's perfectly acceptable to just kiss random women because you find them pretty and then grab them by the pussy so they'll do whatever you want. So they see the outrage, scratch their heads, and then assume it's because Donny used such crass language. It's really very enlightening as to who to be on the lookout for future assault scandals.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I've been doing stuff.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Casimir Radon posted:

I've been doing stuff.


:chloe:

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Donkwich posted:

I feel gross for ever liking Dilbert (the animated series, not the strip). I wasn't aware how much Adams wishes he was Dogbert, and Trump has lived out that fantasy for him.

I get the distinct impression that he's changed over the years. Like, in the 90's, he was less insanely rich and had only been outside of The Industry for a few years, but now he's going on three decades and several million dollars removed from real life and in that time he's gone batty from being so sheltered.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Casimir Radon posted:

I've been doing stuff.


I-isn't this a little on the nose

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Donkwich posted:

I feel gross for ever liking Dilbert (the animated series, not the strip). I wasn't aware how much Adams wishes he was Dogbert, and Trump has lived out that fantasy for him.

I'm not looking forward to having the same conversation about Randall Munroe when Malia is running in 2056...

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

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"I assume that publication of this recording was okayed by the Clinton campaign. And if not, the public will assume so anyway. That opens the door for Trump to attack in a proportionate way. No more mister-nice-guy. Gloves are off. Nothing is out of bounds. It is fair to assume that Bill and Hillary are about to experience the worst weeks of their lives. "

Bill Clinton testified about getting head in the Oval Office in front of Congress. Spoilers: He stayed in office, and they kept their marriage together. There is nothing you can say that will even get -close- to a 'worst week' for the Clintons, Herr Dogbert.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

So, how do you think Clinton parries and redirects the bullshit about 'You're a sex criminal too because uh things!'? I'm curious what strats might go down.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


woke wedding drone posted:

I-isn't this a little on the nose

Is this better?

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


CNN is reporting that Pence is seriously considering resigning.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Night10194 posted:

So, how do you think Clinton parries and redirects the bullshit about 'You're a sex criminal too because uh things!'? I'm curious what strats might go down.

At this point? I think she laughs at him outright, and points out his desperation and loss of control.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Donkwich posted:

I feel gross for ever liking Dilbert (the animated series, not the strip). I wasn't aware how much Adams wishes he was Dogbert, and Trump has lived out that fantasy for him.

Dilbert used to be harmless fun, where Dilbert was the moral winner but often the loser anyway, Dogbert was a silly smug rear end in a top hat, and Dilbert's female coworkers complained about the boss being a patriarchal shithead sometimes. It should have ended as the 90s did, maybe 2003 at the latest, just like the rest of that era's office humor like the Bastard Operator from Hell.

Now, uh, it's not about a normal office anymore.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Geoff Peterson posted:

I'm not looking forward to having the same conversation about Randall Munroe when Malia is running in 2056...

Oh god, what's he done?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



These Trump loyalists continue to top one another for pure stupidity:

https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/784902899235188737

HarveyxCosmonaut
Jan 27, 2009

Furnaceface posted:

Can someone please educate my dumb Canadian rear end why supporting UHC is seen as the devil to so many Americans?

So many good answers already. I've had republican coworkers also claim that foreign UHC only works because our private system supports medical development. Essentially if the US goes socialist all medical developments would stop and healthcare would collapse because there would be no profit to support it.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Jamie Gangel on CNN: "Donald Trump is only listening to Donald Trump"

Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.

Jygallax
Oct 17, 2011

Every human being deserves respect. Even if if they are a little different.
I think I'll have engagements tomorrow which will prevent me from being able to see the debate. I'm glad in a way because it's such an intense event with so much wrapped up in it just thinking about it makes me sick to my stomach, even though I know realistically it can't save trump's campaign at this point.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Thaddius the Large posted:

Part of a whole series on how Trump can keep making things worse for the GOP,

https://twitter.com/joshuagreen/status/784924809926938624

https://twitter.com/joshuagreen/status/784925098067259392

Yes Trump, for gods sake please do this. You are absolutely qualified and prepared to take on a criminal defense attorney about one of her old cases, one who has spent her entire adult life fending off attacks from others. You will certainly handle this is a sensitive and tasteful manner. You most definitely will not undermine a fundamental tenant of our legal system by questioning whether the accused should have representation in a court of law. And it will all be on national tv!

Edit: cleaned up formatting because I'm real bad at posting links

He 100% will. Trump has always turned the accusations against him around and accused Hillary of the same. Why stop now?

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING

Mister E posted:

That's because Chris Christie enlisted the aid of ICP to battle the evil clowns Donald was going to use to fill the audience of the town hall tomorrow.

I think Trump's army of clowns might be my favorite subplot from Trump Leaks. It's up there with the Fred Ott thing and the Coulter/Ailes showdown at Mar-a-Lago.

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012

Doctor Butts posted:

Jamie Gangel on CNN: "Donald Trump is only listening to Donald Trump"

Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.

He has the best temperament. He has the best words. He has the best brain.

Tomorrow's debate is going to be Super Bowl level ratings, Sunday night be damned.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
People defending Donald Trump think that being able to sexually assault women with no consequences is something all guys want and it's normal and that's a pretty terrifying glimpse into the alt-right.

Armani
Jun 22, 2008

Now it's been 17 summers since I've seen my mother

But every night I see her smile inside my dreams

Brony Car posted:

My 4 year old niece has been watching the debates and asking her parents to send me pictures:




Tim Kaine

I don't know why she didn't draw Pence.

This is a million posts ago but these drawings own. That's actually loving great for four years old and could really go somewhere far with it. :)

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Hillary might try to largely ignore Trump outside of some initial condemnation and go more positive. She knows things can't be anymore anti-Trump so better to stoke enthusiasm for her campaign and focus on good turnout.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Spatula City posted:

I think Drumpf's army of clowns might be my favorite subplot from Drumpf Leaks. It's up there with the Fred Ott thing and the Coulter/Ailes showdown at Mar-a-Lago.

I relly hope we get a book or something

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Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

FlamingLiberal posted:

These Trump loyalists continue to top one another for pure stupidity:

https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/784902899235188737

TRUMP 2016
DON'T KINKSHAME PLZ

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