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The media is "biased" against Trump in the same way that it's "biased" against school shooters. Donald Trump is a terrible person and objectively a terrible candidate.
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Like, what scares me at this point is that our democracy has several fundamental values that must be respect or else the system itself collapses and Trump has poo poo on several of them
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Oct 19, 2016 19:41
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OAquinas posted:https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/788795440800075776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw How much we want to bet one of them opens their mouths during the debate and makes a scene.
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OAquinas posted:https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/788795440800075776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Marcus Luttrell is hilarious, when his dumb movie came out he would get soooooooo mad when people implied all his friends died for no real reason.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:42
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Did the other wars have weeping mothers turned into political footballs? I don't know which "others" you mean. Cindy Sheehan is pretty notable.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:42
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Quorum posted:Like I said earlier, the speed at which previous appearances of decorum have fallen apart over the last eight years is really astonishing. Not really. This has been a thing for a long damned time. At the least since Bill the I's terms in the 90's when Republicans were doing any and every thing to get him out or smear him. And it continued on during Bush II's reign. and I'm not saying some of that wasn't justified, but there was a shitload of crazy that came along then. "the last eight years" is really short sighted
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Pakled posted:The media is "biased" against Trump in the same way that it's "biased" against school shooters. Donald Trump is a terrible person and objectively a terrible candidate. Yeah, its interesting because at this point a responsible media SHOULD be biased When one candidate is clearly unfit its the job of the media to play gatekeeper and say so
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Oct 19, 2016 19:42
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OAquinas posted:https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/788795440800075776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Well now I have to watch. Sadly I need to get up at 4am so it's going to be a sober watch.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:43
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Night10194 posted:So, what does the debate commission do, exactly? They shot down his dumb 'WE'LL YELL BILL CLINTON IS A RAPIST WHO RAPES' moment last time. Do they just deny these guests or something? I don't think they can do anything. We will see if Trump tries for some crazy poo poo too, but both sides can invite who they want.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:43
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yeah my concern at this point is about repairing the integrity of our electoral system after his tantrum is over in November. Yep. There's a couple possible ways this ends, but none of them involves a return to the status quo ante bellum, as it were. Total dissolution of the GOP and the reconstitution of the Seventh Party System is one, but considering that the transition between Party Systems has been marked by extreme political polarization, civil strife, and even war, this isn't guaranteed to be a pleasant process. And anyone telling you they can 100% guarantee what that seventh party system will look like is bullshitting you. There's also that Vox article that argues that our political system has thus far been smoothing over its flaws with a warm collegial sense of shared American identity, and that without this grease, Madisonian democracy as current constituted can't continue forever.
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SocketWrench posted:Not really. This has been a thing for a long damned time. At the least since Bill the I's terms in the 90's when Republicans were doing any and every thing to get him out or smear him. And it continued on during Bush II's reign. and I'm not saying some of that wasn't justified, but there was a shitload of crazy that came along then. "the last eight years" is really short sighted I would posit that this sort of indecorous thing has merely become more visible instead of more common. Obviously media evolution has played a huge part in that.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:43
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Goatman Sacks posted:Marcus Luttrell is hilarious, when his dumb movie came out he would get soooooooo mad when people implied all his friends died for no real reason. Reminder that Marcus Luttrell blames liberals for his friends dying because liberals wouldn't let him murder civilians
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So if it's out there, does this supposedly "even worse" oppo on Trump drop tomorrow sometime?
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Oct 19, 2016 19:44
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Reminder that Marcus Luttrell blames liberals for his friends dying because liberals wouldn't let him murder civilians yeah "take the shackles off of our Troops!" is the most disgustingly coded talking point. It's literally advocating in favor of war crimes.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:45
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Trabisnikof posted:I don't think they can do anything. We will see if Trump tries for some crazy poo poo too, but both sides can invite who they want. They had them all sit in a normal place where they couldn't be disruptive last time. I'm sure they'll do the same.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:45
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Like, what scares me at this point is that our democracy has several fundamental values that must be respect or else the system itself collapses and Trump has poo poo on several of them The rules have never really applied to him at any other point in his life so he has never learned to respect them. This idea that he now has to play along goes against everything he knows, so to him it seems like the system is broken. I honest to god believe at this point that he himself thinks the election is actually rigged. This has gone past pandering to crazies and entitled white males.
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This is going to backfire in some way. I'm thinking...Trump sexually assaults one of them on the way to the debate. Or all of them, as the case may be. Edit: "Oh god" funny, not "ha ha" funny. Cthulhumatic fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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mdemone posted:I would posit that this sort of indecorous thing has merely become more visible instead of more common. Obviously media evolution has played a huge part in that. Bingo. Also the increased prevalence of people who Aren't Like Us. It's no mistake that the kind of ugly smear campaign carried out against Bill became so much more open, accepted, and total in the presidency of a black man. It's the same substance, but taken to 11. Bill Clinton was able to appoint Supreme Court justices.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:46
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:That literally won't be allowed to happen (1) and (2) she did that during the RNC. Also Donnie's guests aren't going to be there, the Debate Committee is a neutral non-partisan party*. I'm pretty sure they stonewalled his 2nd Debate bullshit. *NOT TEAM R WHICH MEANS RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!RIGGED!
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Goatman Sacks posted:yeah "take the shackles off of our Troops!" is the most disgustingly coded talking point. It's literally advocating in favor of war crimes. Not even that He literally says "rules of engagement" didn't allow them to murder three civilians to keep their location secret and its all liberals fault He explicitly advocates that he should have been allowed to murder a child.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:46
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C'mon, at least be honest. Most nutball conservative voters
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Night10194 posted:They had them all sit in a normal place where they couldn't be disruptive last time. I'm sure they'll do the same. Maybe they'll bum rush the family seating? Hard to stop if the cameras are rolling. Cthulhumatic posted:This is going to hilariously backfire in some way. I'm thinking...Trump sexually assaults one of them on the way to the debate. Or all of them, as the case may be. Your fantasies are weird and gross.
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Furnaceface posted:The rules have never really applied to him at any other point in his life so he has never learned to respect them. This idea that he now has to play along goes against everything he knows, so to him it seems like the system is broken. I honest to god believe at this point that he himself thinks the election is actually rigged. This has gone past pandering to crazies and entitled white males. Trump earnestly believes everything he says. He literally is mentally impaired.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:47
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Not even that Maybe if your survival relies on having to murder innocent people you deserve to die?
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Not even that Didn't he survive due to being found by friendly locals?
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Oct 19, 2016 19:48
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CannonFodder posted:Hi dude. Keep your eyes on the road, hombre. Anyway, now that I'm out, here's a great piece by one of my friends about a movie that's topical these days: A review of 'The War Room' from today, the year of our lord 2016.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:48
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Trabisnikof posted:Maybe they'll bum rush the family seating? Hard to stop if the cameras are rolling. It's literally a thing that could happen. And, unfortunately, it absolutely is given Trump's history. I should've clarified that it's funny in an "oh god" no "ha ha" sort of way.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:48
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What the gently caress is an "Angel Mom"?
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Goatman Sacks posted:Maybe if your survival relies on having to murder innocent people you deserve to die? Better get ready to go kill yourself because I have bad news for you about global capitalism....
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I mean, let's face it: The real reason this is a bad idea is because Trump is currently losing on the fact that he's seen as crazy as gently caress by the electorate. What he needs is The Pivot, not Springer.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:50
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Night10194 posted:Didn't he survive due to being found by friendly locals? Yeah, his team was originally spotted by three shepards, including a child, and they thought about killing them to keep their location a secret After the attack he was rescued by a different group of locals
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Oct 19, 2016 19:51
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What the gently caress is an "Angel Mom"? Aren't they the ones with poison wombs making heaven too crowded?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What the gently caress is an "Angel Mom"? Mothers of kids killed by illegal immigrants. Yeah.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:After the attack he was rescued by a different group of locals He probably wanted to kill them too.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:51
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah, there's something though. Beyond just inordinate amounts of charisma, which most of the modern presidents on both sides have had. I shook hands with Bill Clinton recently, and before that I dined at the same restaurant as then-president George W Bush, who was a few tables over but I did not say hello.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:51
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What the gently caress is an "Angel Mom"? He's dragging out moms whose kids were killed by, for example, someone living in the US illegally or by accident in a black gang shootout. Really.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:52
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What the gently caress is an "Angel Mom"? trump's stable of grieving mothers of children killed in gun violence, props as part of his hilariously shabby and desperate appeal to african americans, who he assumes all live in ghettos and dodge gunfire every day and blames democrats for this i guess
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XyrlocShammypants posted:He's dragging out moms whose kids were kid by, for example, someone living in the US illegally or by accident in a black gang shootout. Oh gently caress him. Isn't the violent crime rate by undocumented immigrants lower than that of the general population?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Oh gently caress him. Isn't the violent crime rate by undocumented immigrants lower than that of the general population? yeah. turns out undocumented immigrants try pretty hard to stay away from the police
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