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CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

Gaunab posted:

Being stylish comes at a cost

he's not actually mad at himself, she just doesn't realize she's being played

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Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
I hope it's terrible like trying to wear 1940s zoot suits with big wide brimmed fedora and saying poo poo like, "Hey ho daddy O" and snapping his fingers and doing shooty hands and clicking his tongue.

china bot
Sep 7, 2014

you listen HERE pal
SAY GOODBYE TO TELEPHONE SEX
Plaster Town Cop
My [18F] now ex girlfriend isn't able to forgive me for watching porn

reddit posted:

Background on the relationship. Was nearly together for a year. The relationship was okay at first then became rocky and she had little trust for me. Despite this, we decided to give it a go and rebuild. She wasn't okay about her appearance before this. We couldn't be sexually intimate with each other due to circumstances. (Parents, houses)

Porn had never been discussed in the relationship, i wasn't aware of how she felt about it. Initially, she was extremely hurt when she found out and left me. She felt like a monster, vile and worthless. She deemed it as cheating which i didn't agree with at the time. I told her i used porn to make masturbation easier and faster and that it didn't make her any less attractive or less sexy. I apologised profusely for hurting her. It wasn't my intention. She decided to take me back on account that i would stop watching which i did.

However, this is what is bugging me. She hasn't behaved the same towards me since, there has been more arguments, anger and frustration, she's said hurtful things about me and I suspected it was because she couldn't truly forgive about watching porn.
In the past few days, she has said It has broken her, I have destroyed her, that she isn't able to forgive and that she is now embarrassed about her appearance. She said I have made her want to die because she feels so ugly. She says its all my fault. I have explained that I watched porn to make mastubration easier and faster and that it doesn't mean she isn't good enough or not sexy enough but she can't believe me? She seems to think that i wouldn't of watched it if she was enough? But she knows we couldn't be together that way and i didn't know that she thought it was wrong? I also didn't think it was wrong but I now realise myself it breaks the rules of monogamy a little and i've apologised. She keeps asking me how could i do this to her but i didn't know how she felt about porn and i didn't know it would make her feel such a way? She keeps saying I am not what she wanted and that I never found her attractive but i have always complimented her and have been affectionate to her and we have been sexual with each other but only a few times and it hasn't got further than fondling and oral.

I myself seem to think she's extremely hurt because she didn't feel okay about her appearance in the first place and because she seems to be comparing herself to women in porn and because she has the wrong idea about it all. She seems to think i'm shifting blame when i tell her why i think she's extremely hurt and she says its wrong anyway which i agree now but at the time i couldn't see.
Should i feel as bad as she wants me to? Is there anything more i could of done? I just need some advice.

edit: She has schizophrenia and I'm not sure how much this played into the relationship, she has never mentioned that it affected until the other day. She claims she was stable but now she isn't and thats where the anger and frustration came from.

tl;dr: ex girlfriend can't forgive for watching porn, says i've destroyed her and its all my fault

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
*huge info dump*

edit: oh yeah her head is hosed is that important?

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Gaunab posted:

You're getting weird man.

Nah, I've always been a weird, goony gently caress. I'm just better at filtering it on some days rather than others. That comment was expressly intended to be as inappropriate as possible, so go me.

Sometimes I get the hankering to write terrible prose, so I do. Then things like "Atlas Shrugs About Big Gym" happens. It's fun, for me at least.

Kid should stop being a creep and playing with his wiener while in the presence of company.

corn on the cop posted:

*huge info dump*

edit: oh yeah her head is hosed is that important?

My own mental issues are why I've actively not sought out a relationship for more than six years now. I'd say it's not important at all to most people.

Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Oct 21, 2016

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Someone find me a "my girlfriend thinks porn is the devil" or "help reddit my boyfriend watches porn sometimes and LOVE is OVER" story where the girl is over, say, 25, I want to test my earlier hypothesis

edit: also not schizophrenic

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

china bot posted:

My [18F] now ex girlfriend isn't able to forgive me for watching porn

Jack Trades posted:

Aaargh! Come oon.
What's with all these women being intimidated to hell and back by porn and monkey spanking?

EDIT: I can answer my own question. It's low self-esteem. But still, come the gently caress on.

Doctor J Off
Dec 28, 2005

There Is
Reports that the groups of friends are called by the name "Roc Pile" remain unconfirmed.

Making my(27f) husband(33m) choose between his "hobby" and me.

My husband of 3 years, together 8+ years, has spent the last 2 years pursuing a (rap) music career. We have 2 boys, 8y and 5y. At first it started casual, Tuesday's at a friends just messing around in the studio, and has escalated to him actively trying to make this his career, building a studio in our basement and having up to 5-6 guys here daily (usually only half bother to show) "working on music" (usually just partying in the basement although I know my husband is trying to do more than party).

He's gone through 3 groups of artists in 2 years, built 4 studios in various peoples houses which he lost access to after the groups fell apart, he's had 1 small show in which half his partners forgot their words, and 3 or 4 cancelled shows. We've financed everything alone from all these studios to CDs to liquor and snacks everyday and had my electic bills ran up since sometimes people are here for literally 12 hours, my house shaking with repetitive beats. Our finances are joint and, truthfully I bring in more money. So, basically I'm financing most of it.

I've been unbelievably supportive. From helping promote to dealing with his adding every girl in a bikini on facebook to "promote" his music to, to paying out so much money and never making a single dime back or getting a dime of financial help from his partners, to spending long nights in studios with him just so we could still be with eachother, to now losing him every second of the day except maybe an hour late at night to the studio.

He still seems to think that this money and time suck is going to make him a millionaire someday despite his being a 33 year old white guy. I've tried talking to him and compromising a million times and I've finally admitted to myself that I can't live this life. I've decided he has to choose between me and his music. I feel so guilty for considering an ultimatum, but at this point we want drastically different things in life. He wanted to settle down and have kids and so we did, and i'm focused on mothering and adulting. Then a year after marriage he decided to become a rapper. If this is what's most important to him, he should be able to choose that and eventually find a woman who wants to live that way. I don't, I've tried and I'm now a miserable snappy person because I'm alone all the time because I don't want to go party in the freaking basement like I'm 17.

It's not like he doesn't have other hobbies. Its not like we didn't have career plans. But instead of trying to write a book or open a restaurant like we planned, he delivers pizza and raps. I bartend because it gives me the most time at home with the best income, but now that both kids are in school we had always planned to get day jobs and frankly I want to be able to retire someday. I need a "real job" for that and so does he.

Anyways, I know this was a novel. My question is, is this wrong for me to make him choose? I'm against ultimatums. They're not healthy. But I feel like he has to choose. Choose music and seperate and live our seperate lives, or choose me and hang up his mic for good. I feel like a rotten wife but also know at this point neither of us can be happy with this arrangement.

Tl;dr: husband wants to be a famous rapper, spends all his time and our money trying to make it happen, I want him to quit it or I'm out. Feel bad for planning to give him an ultimatum, but it I don't, divorce is inevitable anyways.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
How can I get my husband to consider a sensible career, like restaurant ownership or self-publishing?

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Pvt.Scott posted:

Nah, I've always been a weird, goony gently caress. I'm just better at filtering it on some days rather than others. That comment was expressly intended to be as inappropriate as possible, so go me.

Sometimes I get the hankering to write terrible prose, so I do. Then things like "Atlas Shrugs About Big Gym" happens. It's fun, for me at least.

Kid should stop being a creep and playing with his wiener while in the presence of company.


My own mental issues are why I've actively not sought out a relationship for more than six years now. I'd say it's not important at all to most people.

Hmm, hth you might want to reign it in, friend.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Pvt.Scott posted:

Nah, I've always been a weird, goony gently caress. I'm just better at filtering it on some days rather than others. That comment was expressly intended to be as inappropriate as possible, so go me.

Sometimes I get the hankering to write terrible prose, so I do. Then things like "Atlas Shrugs About Big Gym" happens. It's fun, for me at least.

Kid should stop being a creep and playing with his wiener while in the presence of company.


My own mental issues are why I've actively not sought out a relationship for more than six years now. I'd say it's not important at all to most people.

its only okay to sperg about being a sadbrains weirdo that cant get laid in gibbis if ur drunk hth

Doctor J Off
Dec 28, 2005

There Is

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

How can I get my husband to consider a sensible career, like restaurant ownership or self-publishing?

I bet he talked her into it by saying that his rapping was just like publishing a book of poetry, if you think about it.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

How can I get my husband to consider a sensible career, like restaurant ownership or self-publishing?

At least writing a book only requires a copy of Word.

But restaurant starting would definitely put them into bankruptcy far more rapidly than Vanilla Ice Jr farting around in the basement with his friends.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

How can I get my husband to consider a sensible career, like restaurant ownership or self-publishing?

I didn't even notice this detail, the poo poo she wishes he'd do instead is just as much of a money pit as the indie rap scene

scrubs season six posted:

At least writing a book only requires a copy of Word.

But restaurant starting would definitely put them into bankruptcy far more rapidly than Vanilla Ice Jr farting around in the basement with his friends.

being An Author who is Working On A Book is also a powerful mental enabler for sitting around doing jack poo poo for literal years

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

I (26m) took a girl (22f) out on a date, is it a deal breaker that she had a machete in her car?

Real talk I met up with a girl who pulled a knife on me the very first time we saw each other in person and told me not to try anything shady. After 10 min of her talking about her life, she wanted to go gently caress in her car, to which I politely declined and severed forever.

So like, don't do that.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Regulation Size posted:

Real talk I met up with a girl who pulled a knife on me the very first time we saw each other in person and told me not to try anything shady. After 10 min of her talking about her life, she wanted to go gently caress in her car, to which I politely declined and severed forever.

So like, don't do that.

I don't know. She sounds like fun.

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

How can I get my husband to consider a sensible career, like restaurant ownership or self-publishing?

After working with a number of neophyte, small-time restaurant owners, I no longer consider owning a restaurant a sensible career.

Working for an owner is a great job if you love watching failure and neglect slowly consume a business though, and if the owner checks out mentally/emotionally, you can eat for free every day and get away with doing a terrible loving job.

im cute fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Oct 21, 2016

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Regulation Size posted:

After working with a number of neophyte, small-time restaurant owners, I no longer consider owning a restaurant a sensible career.

:thejoke:

Doomy
Oct 19, 2004

At least a failing restaurant owner can put food on the table, that is not something 30 something failing rappers are known for

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Doomy posted:

At least a failing restaurant owner can put food on the table

Noice.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

loquacius posted:

Someone find me a "my girlfriend thinks porn is the devil" or "help reddit my boyfriend watches porn sometimes and LOVE is OVER" story where the girl is over, say, 25, I want to test my earlier hypothesis

edit: also not schizophrenic

I'm actually less tolerant of porn than I used to be because of how many guys have demonstrated to me that it informs their thinking and approach. If it didn't then I wouldn't care.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


i literally cant think of a single white rapper ever that became successful after starting a career in their 30s

dudes clearly lookin to make history

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

loquacius posted:

Someone find me a "my girlfriend thinks porn is the devil" or "help reddit my boyfriend watches porn sometimes and LOVE is OVER" story where the girl is over, say, 25, I want to test my earlier hypothesis

edit: also not schizophrenic

quote:

My wife [f27] found porn on my [m30] pc and is threatening divorce.

My apologies if I ramble or if I'm a little incoherent, but I'm in the midst of a slight breakdown, so I'm just gonna unleash a stream of consciousness and see where I end up.

I love my wife more than any words of mine can say. She is a stunningly beautiful, intelligent, and successful woman. Before the end of our 2nd date, I knew she was the girl I wanted to spend my life with. We've lived together for over 3 years but have only been married a few months. We recently bought a house and, with a lot of work, started to turn it into our home.

We rarely quarrel or have disagreements. Maybe only 2 fights in the whole of our relationship. She is definitely the more assertive of the two of us. I'm just super laid back and always had the "if she's happy, I'm happy" mindset. Now I'm not a complete invertebrate, I will stand up for myself, but I choose my battles. Bickering over small stuff is torture to me. But overall, I feel we have a great relationship. She works full time and I've been working 50-60 hours a week for the past couple months, but we still have a couple hours every day to spend with each other. Sex, while maybe not as frequent as I'd like, is still great. I honestly love every moment we spend together. We even had another serious conversation about having children this past week. So long story short... I felt like I had a great marriage.

I should probably preface this next bit with something that happened shortly after we were married. In private, she once randomly and jokingly asked if I ever masturbated. Initially I lied and said no. But she gave me a look like she didn't believe me. So I admitted that occasionally I did. She was upset and hurt by this. She felt like she wasn't doing enough for me sexually, and that something had to be wrong with her. She asked what she could do to "fix" it. I assured her that she is not the problem and there was nothing for her to fix. We hugged it out and nothing more was said about it.

Cut to this past Monday. She turns on my rarely used pc (which we both share and I always leave in standby) to find what she deemed "porn". It wasn't actual pornography, but to her it made no difference.... it was "looking at another woman sexually". She says it has destroyed her self confidence and her trust in me and our marriage. She feels betrayed, likens it to cheating and is calling me unfaithful. I've apologized... profusely. I explained since that upset her, then I would not look at or put myself in a position to be tempted to look at anything like that. I've told her I'm willing to do whatever it takes to earn her trust back.

What began as her crying and being hurt has changed to anger towards me. The past week I've felt like an unwanted roommate in my own home. Today she threatened to leave me saying, "there are plenty of men who would love to be in your shoes." And I know she is right... I've noticed guys checking her out before, but it never bothered me before because I was confident in our relationship. But now I'm not so sure.

I've suggested counseling. I would do anything to fix this, but it feels like she's hanging on to the hurt and anger and is not wanting to let it go. I don't know if she just needs more time and space. I don't want to pressure her and make things even worse. I don't know what to do. It feels like my whole life is crumbling around me. I'm lost. It feels like there's no way out of this. It's terrifying.

TL;DR : Wife found porn on computer. Calls it cheating and is threatening divorce.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
Ugh, divorce that wife. She can roam the earth searching for the guy that doesn't jerk it and die alone.

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
jfc beezys be crazy about porn

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Pick posted:

I'm actually less tolerant of porn than I used to be because of how many guys have demonstrated to me that it informs their thinking and approach. If it didn't then I wouldn't care.
That's probably the only real reason to be against porn.
Cause the guys that try to apply porn logic to the real life are just as retarded as the gals that get their knickers in a twist when their dudes whack it to porn.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Nooner posted:

jfc beezys be crazy about porn

Khorne
May 1, 2002

Gaunab posted:

My wife [f27] found porn on my [m30] pc and is threatening divorce.
Why do all the guys in these always react ridiculously? You'd think he left out the part where he hosed her sister while watching porn and her grandma died of a heart attack walking in on it with how he described the situation.

Is it because people who don't validate ridiculous views have this problem just go away on its own?

Khorne fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Oct 21, 2016

DOMDOM
Apr 28, 2007

Fun Shoe
How insecure do you have to be to be jealous of masturbation.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

There is a post in purgatory, I'm posting to try to fix it.

Nooner posted:

jfc beezys be crazy about porn

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

quote:

I [20F] just found that my friend's [20F] parents [40s F/M] warned my boyfriend's [23M] parents [60s M/F] about me when we started dating.

This is such a strange story and I'm so hurt I have no idea what to do about it. 5 months ago I [20F] met Brayden [23M] at a bar outing with all my friends. He was a family friend of a girl I had been close with since middle school named Julia [20F]. Brayden and I really hit it off and have been dating ever since.

The two of us are extremely similar and so far have had a fun and romantic relationship. We are super compatible and have the same life goals and interests. There is only one fight that we've ever gotten in but it has gotten so big that we once almost broke up over it. The topic of the fight has been about conflicting views on alcohol.

I'm a pretty social person and my parents raised me to believe that alcohol in moderation is okay. I therefore enjoy social drinking, craft beers, the occasional bar/club outing. I would say I have a fairly typical relationship with alcohol for a college student. Sure, I've gone over my limit before, but never dangerously and I'm on par with my friends and family.

Brayden on the other hand really dislikes alcohol outside of a glass of wine with dinner. His family doesn't drink and he knows several people who were alcoholics. Naturally, when I found this out about Brayden I cut my drinking down to almost zero. Instead of drinking once or twice a week, I cut it down to once a month. I asked him to compromise with me and meet me half way by being okay with the limited alcohol I was now drinking but he never seemed able to. The weird part of this is, it's not like Brayden never went drinking like a college kid either. Right before we met he would go out all the time with his roommate and I even met him at a bar outing. But, we would fight all the time, he would say he was uncomfortable every time I had one beer and said that it gave him this "image of me being blackout drunk" in his head. The short of it was, we had extremely irrational arguments about things that were only happening in his head.

Earlier this week it seemed like we finally had a breakthrough on the alcohol issue. I told him he was being controlling and uncompromising and if it didn't stop we would breakup. He took it to heart and had been amazing for the rest of the week. Then last night he had called his mom and it seemed like he was trying not to tell me what was going on. He confessed to me that at the beginning of our relationship some people from my hometown had expressed concerns about me to his parents. I was confused because I was an athlete and geek in my hometown and was very well-liked with a great group of friends. I pushed further and he told me that Julia's parents had called his parents at the beginning of our relationship and told them they were concerned because I was a party girl who would get drunk and sleep around and hung out with a bad crowd.

I was completely floored. I have told Brayden every one of my past relationships and the "bad crowd" I was hanging out with were Julia's friends too. It's just not even remotely true. I've never given Brayden or his parents any reason to think it's true. I immediately texted Julia and she told me that she never said anything bad about me to Brayden and that her parents would never say anything because they liked/respected me. But they clearly did say something because he and his parents think I'm bad news deep down. I just simply don't understand why her parents would say that and I'm completely hurt. Furthermore, I was angry at Brayden because even after we talked about it and both texted Julia he still didn't trust me and wasn't supporting me. And I don't understand why he kept this from me for 5 months and never brought it up in our fights about alcohol. I just don't know what I'm supposed to do. How the hell can I fight against a rumor that I have no control over? Is this the end of my relationship? Brayden is not talking to me today and I have no idea why .I'm angry and hurt and sick. What do I so?

tl;dr: SO and I have been fighting about alcohol since the beginning of our 5 month relationship. Turns our our mutual friend's parents has called his parents to tell them I was a drunk slut and to watch out for me.

I don't know if it's because I read so many of these, but the first thing that popped into my head was that he was lying to her. Most of the comments on reddit are telling her to ghost her friend though.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Pick posted:

I'm actually less tolerant of porn than I used to be because of how many guys have demonstrated to me that it informs their thinking and approach. If it didn't then I wouldn't care.

I'm gonna invert an axiom here and say "don't hate the game, hate the player" because it's not hard to be able to tell porn fiction from reality as an adult

Gaunab posted:

I don't know if it's because I read so many of these, but the first thing that popped into my head was that he was lying to her. Most of the comments on reddit are telling her to ghost her friend though.

I honestly blame the friend's parents on this one. My take is that they saw their daughter hanging out with "the bad crowd" and decided that the problem was the big bad OP corrupting their pure sweet angel and then proceeded to be middle-aged busybodies about it. Also the boyfriend was being an idiot letting that inform his perception of her (also: a manchild about alcohol, I wonder if his family is Mormon)

Leon Einstein posted:

Ugh, divorce that wife. She can roam the earth searching for the guy that doesn't jerk it and die alone.

honestly even more than the porn thing I thought the "there are plenty of guys who'd love to be in your shoes" thing was a red flag

but yeah a good comeback to that would have been "they'd change their minds if they knew your porn policy"

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Glenn Quebec posted:

I hope it's terrible like trying to wear 1940s zoot suits with big wide brimmed fedora and saying poo poo like, "Hey ho daddy O" and snapping his fingers and doing shooty hands and clicking his tongue.

I hope he visited You Look Like poo poo and is following goon advice to buy sheets of raw denim to cut and sew into his own jeans, which he never washes.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Leon Einstein posted:

Ugh, divorce that wife. She can roam the earth searching for the guy that doesn't jerk it and die alone.

I'm the guy. I've never jerked it.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

loquacius posted:

I'm gonna invert an axiom here and say "don't hate the game, hate the player" because it's not hard to be able to tell porn fiction from reality as an adult


I know we often agree on stuff, but I disagree on this. I don't think people are nearly as good at separating fiction and reality as they think they are. If they were, advertising and marketing wouldn't work. It's quite clear that there are grown-rear end loving adults who are influenced by the media they consume, in this case pornography. I think a lot of men thinking that all women are size queens is an attitude that is heavily reinforced by pornography, for example.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Pick posted:

I know we often agree on stuff, but I disagree on this. I don't think people are nearly as good at separating fiction and reality as they think they are. If they were, advertising and marketing wouldn't work. It's quite clear that there are grown-rear end loving adults who are influenced by the media they consume, in this case pornography. I think a lot of men thinking that all women are size queens is an attitude that is heavily reinforced by pornography, for example.

I freely admit that I was working off of no knowledge of the exact thinking and approach you were making reference to and assumed it was guys thinking women love it when you bust in their faces or tear their clothing or something (e: or do the James Deen thing where you grab their cheeks and stare intensely into their eyes), but I am gonna say that if you're waiting for a guy who is not corrupted by porn and also isn't a fundie with really weird views RE sex for a multitude of non-porn-related reasons, you might be waiting a while.

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

quote:

Because of this, my aunt & uncle treat him like he’s made of glass, but they also treat him like he’s much younger than he is. They have issues letting him grow up, basically. So real quick, here’s some of the weird stuff they do:

- His bed time is 8pm. He has to be in bed by 8pm, then his parents cuddle him and read to him until he falls asleep.

- He has never slept over at another kid’s house, and has only been on one playdate at someone else’s house. His parents attend all the birthday parties he is invited to.

- He is not allowed to consume any age-appropriate media. My aunt insists that his favourite show is Shaun the Sheep. He’s never been allowed to read or watch past the first two Harry Potter books/movies because my aunt think they are ‘too scary.’ And even those two were heavily censored, with him never reading/watching any of the scenes in the Chamber of Secrets or with Voldemort/Quirrell in the first book.

- They tell him when to go to the bathroom. This made sense for a while, because they had difficulty potty-training him, but...he’s 12. I think he knows at this point if he needs to have a bowel movement. Instead, they ask him to go sit on the toilet for a half hour and they check (!) to see if he was ‘successful.’

- They pull out the back of his pants to check if he’s ‘clean.’ The way you check if a toddler has used their diaper. I wish I was kidding.

Would you rather: have alcoholics for parents or have these people for parents?

I'm going with the people who at least let me poo poo on my own schedule.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Pick posted:

I know we often agree on stuff, but I disagree on this. I don't think people are nearly as good at separating fiction and reality as they think they are. If they were, advertising and marketing wouldn't work. It's quite clear that there are grown-rear end loving adults who are influenced by the media they consume, in this case pornography. I think a lot of men thinking that all women are size queens is an attitude that is heavily reinforced by pornography, for example.

It's not the porn. It's that the guys are retarded. Or extremely inexperienced. Or both. As a non retard I can watch pornography without thinking that women want nine inch hog legs and the most appropriate place for semen is always in her eyeballs.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
My girlfriend tells me to jerk it and has no qualms about it because we both know that the mood strikes us sometimes and it's perfectly healthy. I don't get these crazy weirdos who think that porn and masturbation is the worst thing ever. It's bizarre to shame people for the most normal thing in human history. :shobon:

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Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
I [26M] slept with my best friend's sister [19F].

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I've been best friends with the same guy since college and have known his sister for about 3 years. She decided to go to the same college that we did (which is close to where we both live) and would occasionally come hang out with us or bring her friends over to his house.

About a year ago, it was pretty clear to me that she had a crush on me. She got my number through someone else and would randomly text me, or I'd see her staring at me, or she'd come ask me about girls I liked or who I was dating. I refrained from acting on it, because she's my friend's sister.

Until about 4 months ago, that is. My friend had a party at his house and everyone got pretty drunk, so I stayed at his place. After everyone went to bed, she came and found me and said I could share the queen size bed in the guest room rather than sleep in one of the recliners. One thing led to another and...

For a few months after, she would text or call me to come over. At that point, I thought we were just having fun and we talked about how she should date a bunch of people and that I regretted being in a long term relationship in college. I know she slept with at least one other person during this time period, but said she regretted it because she liked me. She also said she assumed I was seeing other girls (I wasn't).

Then there was about a month where she started acting guilty and said she didn't want to do anything unless we were actually going to date. When I said it would be tough but we could try, she said that there were too many consequences if her brother (my best friend) found out, how she didn't want to ruin our friendship, how we were at different points in our lives, etc. Then she said she thought I was cute and smart and funny, but didn't know if she "liked" me.

I was ready to end it and move on. I really like her by now, but you can't really force someone into a relationship and she's right that it would be complicated. And I thought that's what she wanted too, but she kept texting me, liking my photos on Instagram, and flirting with me in front of her brother.

I told her I was done and deleted her out of my phone. I still liked her but we'd essentially broken up. But for whatever reason, she asks her brother to come hang out with us (just me, my friend, and her) one night, and then brings her friends with her to go out to the bars with us the next. At the bar, she starts acting weird again and asks her brother for us to leave.

She texts me later in the week to say she thought we could be friends and that she liked hanging out with me. I told her I didn't think that'd work.

So now I feel guilty about having slept with my best friend's sister, a little heartbroken, and confused about how to deal with this. She still acts like she likes me, but then will push me away an instant later. I've deleted her out of my phone again and haven't heard from her (other than her liking my Instagram photos; I unfollowed her there as well) since Sunday.

tl;dr: Slept with my best friend's sister, she says she wants things to be serious, then back tracks. Try to back off, she still acts like she wants to be with me, then acts guilty about it. Now I feel heartbroken and like a lovely friend.

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