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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



M_Gargantua posted:

Iain M Banks definitely was the one who defined how I want humanities shining post-scarcity future to be. A goal to dream toward.

Yeah same, his Culture series is definitely a huge influence on me, and highlights what I hope we can attain.

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WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Complaint Compilation posted:

They never say what they afraid of.

The supposed menstrual irrationality of a woman nearing 70

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

canepazzo posted:

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/790961315170885632

New Monmouth poll of Arizona

Trump: 46%
Clinton: 45%

Tad disappointed in that. But hopefully they're under polling Latinos as usual. Also GOTV should put her over the top.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

Complaint Compilation posted:

They never say what they afraid of.

In the case of my dad, that she's going to sell out our country to the highest bidder because of how she constantly changes positions for money.

In the case of my mom because she is emotionally unstable due to being a woman and will throw nukes in a blind fit of rage.

No, I didn't mix them up.

Endymion FRS MK1 fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Oct 25, 2016

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Combed Thunderclap posted:

They're obviously a total deplorable but the "I want a sense of security" part just makes me want to go "oh honey" and shush them soothingly as I take them to the therapist's office.

These people don't need a President they need a therapist. That line makes me think they are either, like, 16 and discovering that they will, in fact, die someday or have the boundaries of a wet sponge.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




I don't understand why they're so afraid of a Clinton presidency after none of their delusional fears came true under Obama. I mean I get it (they're idiots), but it's still stupid.

Their guns haven't been taken away. Sadie Hawkins dances haven't become mandatory. We're still the most powerful country in the world.

Drunk Theory
Aug 20, 2016


Oven Wrangler

Pakled posted:

He believes that Hillary is going to flood the country with Muslim terrorists in order to kill all white people and redistribute their wealth to black people.

As a white person, this sounds like a great plan. Weird thing to be afraid of.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I can blame the APA one on being a research writing professor.

Not sure why I went with American Dental Association though
Americans with Disabilities Act!

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Squeegy posted:

/pol/ is Arzying hard



You lost, so you get a nice steaming cup of polonium tea. Drink up /pol/.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

canepazzo posted:

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/790961315170885632

New Monmouth poll of Arizona

Trump: 46%
Clinton: 45%

Oh well.

Remember 6 weeks ago when it was a +/- 1 point race in NH? lawl.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Complaint Compilation posted:

They never say what they afraid of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K55GwFPr8Y

World war 3, billions dead.

Also that it'll be shunned to complain about trans people using your bathroom.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Look at it from their perspective: They believe all the conspiracy theories about her. And they believe America has been shown irrefutable evidence of them over and over and over and ignored them. To them, she looks like a monster they've been fighting for 30 years and they haven't landed a single real blow, and now she's about to run them over. Dread :abuela: indeed!

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Squeegy posted:

/pol/ is Arzying hard



We'd better start compiling a list of forums, threads and twitter accounts for real-time meltdowns on election night. I don't want there to be even a minute's delay in it going into me

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
This is fascinating. What a weird demographic.

I'd love to see more polls split by anything but race/sex/education/age/income.

Complaint Compilation
Apr 8, 2016

:sax:

Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

In the case of my dad, that she's going to sell out our country to the highest bidder because of how she constantly changes positions for money.

In the case of my mom because she is emotionally unstable due to being a woman and will throw nukes in a blind fit or rage.

No, I didn't mix them up.

:stare:
Your parents, man. Thanksgiving is going to be fun, huh?

Kibibit
Sep 10, 2009

You must be a friend that's good at shredding!

Complaint Compilation posted:

Okay I didn't know what you were talking about, figured it's a basketball thing so I looked it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q

I am not a big b-ball fan but like many Americans I used to play when I was younger. This is the slammingest dunk you have ever loving seen.
:drat:

Yep, it's actually pretty much the consensus "Greatest dunk of all time"

To put it in perspective, Frederic Weis is 7'2", and maybe bent down a couple of inches during the dunk, and Carter cleared him almost like he didn't exist. If you're interested, you can google one of the million "Vince Carter's best dunks" videos out there, the man is so ridiculous the NBA made a top 100 and people bitched that some dunks got snubbed.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

woke wedding drone posted:

We'd better start compiling a list of forums, threads and twitter accounts for real-time meltdowns on election night. I don't want there to be even a minute's delay in it going into me

On that note, I think that Bill Kristol may have escaped the curse by dunking on Scott Adams and forcing him to take his place.

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/790920262203998208

The Dilbert Guy posted:

I change my endorsement to Trump because I oppose bullying in all its forms: http://bit.ly/2eNrGUq #Trump #Clinton

He also remains convinced that Trump will win because Trump is so masterfully persuasive.

quote:

I endorse Donald Trump for President of the United States because I oppose bullying in all its forms.

I don’t defend Trump’s personal life. Neither Trump nor Clinton are role models for our children. Let’s call that a tie, at worst.

The bullies are welcome to drown in their own bile while those of us who want a better world do what we’ve been doing for hundreds of years: Work to make it better while others complain about how we’re doing it.

Today I put Trump’s odds of winning in a landslide back to 98%. Remember, I told you a few weeks ago that Trump couldn’t win unless “something changed.”

Something just changed.

eviltastic fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Oct 25, 2016

comingafteryouall
Aug 2, 2011


That pol poster isn't just having to deal with the thought of a Clinton presidency.

They're dealing with the realization that they could have been wrong this whole time. That they've wasted many hours on a failed campaign. That their political savior doesn't live up to their insane mental image.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
People crying over the thought of Trump losing the election are not deserving of a sense of security

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Complaint Compilation posted:

:stare:
Your parents, man. Thanksgiving is going to be fun, huh?

Can they have thanksgiving in a doomsday bunker as they wait for Hillary to usher in the end of the world?

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Night10194 posted:

Look at it from their perspective: They believe all the conspiracy theories about her. And they believe America has been shown irrefutable evidence of them over and over and over and ignored them. To them, she looks like a monster they've been fighting for 30 years and they haven't landed a single real blow, and now she's about to run them over. Dread :abuela: indeed!
Not to kick a man who is already down, but: you guys are aware of American exceptionalism in the sense that all of these huge scandals, conspiracy theories, insanity never happens in a place like Germany (with most countries around here being similar)? That our elections basically look like the Democratic primaries on Xanax?

Complaint Compilation
Apr 8, 2016

:sax:

Cingulate posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K55GwFPr8Y

World war 3, billions dead.

Also that it'll be shunned to complain about trans people using your bathroom.

I've heard some of InfoWars before, does he usually go this... religious end-times stuff?

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Ah, I'm so glad I got out just as Trump was starting so I didn't have to get into tons of arguments over this poo poo. Also: lol at the Coast Guard not being polled.

comingafteryouall
Aug 2, 2011


Cingulate posted:

Not to kick a man who is already down, but: you guys are aware of American exceptionalism in the sense that all of these huge scandals, conspiracy theories, insanity never happens in a place like Germany (with most countries around here being similar)? That our elections basically look like the Democratic primaries on Xanax?

David Cameron hosed a dead pig, though. That has to count for something on the scandal front, even if it was in Britain.

Minecraft Holmes
Oct 21, 2016

Complaint Compilation posted:

I've heard some of InfoWars before, does he usually go this... religious end-times stuff?

Pretty much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHbAsndSKXA

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Complaint Compilation posted:

I've heard some of InfoWars before, does he usually go this... religious end-times stuff?
Dunno, but in his essence, he is, and has been for decades, a millennialist predicting the coming of the endtimes. He's been selling Armageddon preparedness equipment for his main business forever, too.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Cingulate posted:

Not to kick a man who is already down, but: you guys are aware of American exceptionalism in the sense that all of these huge scandals, conspiracy theories, insanity never happens in a place like Germany (with most countries around here being similar)? That our elections basically look like the Democratic primaries on Xanax?

Well, there is the fact my family had to leave Germany due to having dark curly hair and a -berg in our name

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Going back to healthcare chat, part of the problem with the whole system, especially costs, is how much it costs to become a doctor. While there's a multitude of openings around the country and whatnot, the monetary cost of college is still through the roof, which also leads to people wanting more money so they can pay off college faster. The money and prestige is what drew a lot of people in, and they graduate with 5+ figures of debt. Though it's likely only a matter of time till we see what happened with lawyers where everyone wanted quick and easy money as a lawyer, only to find out there are too many lawyers and not enough jobs (though probably not as bad due to the increase in population).

Also ads for Rx drugs (OTC drugs ads are fine with me).

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Huh, weird, Marines being the worst people.

Bassetking
Feb 20, 2008

And it is, it is a glorious thing, to be a Basset King!

bad boy in the boy band posted:

My point is that Wisconsin had nothing to do with it and got screwed. So gently caress Andrew Jackson. I'm glad he's dead. :colbert:

I know I am going to be immediately proven wrong, but "gently caress Andrew Jackson" is, I think, a tenet most of USPol can get behind.

theflyingorc posted:

What's this about artificial doctor scarcity? That's a new one to me.

It is in no way artificial. GP docs are well and truly scarce. One of the most important front-line tools in medical care is disappearing, because it doesn't pay. The work-load is monstrous, and it doesn't pay.

Got a buddy. Went into GP Pediatrics. A super, super needed field. This is the guy who takes care of all kids. All of them. Birth through age 18. Knows all the common illnesses, weight-charts, basic wellness for seriously physically developmental years. He's the one who knows where, and when, and how, and, most importantly, IF someone needs to go see a specialist.

Buddy of his? Works in specialized Geriatric Neurooncological radiology. He shoots radiation into the brains of the elderly, and hopes that cures their cancer.

The radiation doc? Makes six times what the GP does. Does less than half the work. Golfs every day. Owns two lake houses. And a McMansion.

That's why we have a doctor scarcity.

We treat the front-line docs like poo poo, and make it loving rain on specialists.

Who the gently caress stays in the front-line, when you can get PAID somewhere else, for doing less work? (Said the guy going into Social Work, and working as a Sub)

You know how hard it was for me to find a Pediatric Endocrinologist when I was first diagnosed? Nearest one was an hour and a half away. Saw them four times a year. Until they got an offer at three times what they were making to come work as a private practice consultant.

We incentivize docs to flee the positions we most need them in, and incentivize them to flee into niche specialty fields that are, more often than not, aimed directly at the heart of the aging and ailing Baby Boomers.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Squeegy posted:

/pol/ is Arzying hard



It's not Arzying for them because Trump is actually losing, badly. :ssh:

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a63ymFn6nS0

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.
"Opposed to bullying." "Endorsing Donald Trump."

What the actual gently caress? Does this person not understand what a bully is?

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

comingafteryouall posted:

That pol poster isn't just having to deal with the thought of a Clinton presidency.

They're dealing with the realization that they could have been wrong this whole time. That they've wasted many hours on a failed campaign
Not only hours.


(A 1500€ bet on Trump winning.)

eviltastic posted:

On that note, I think that Bill Kristol may have escaped the curse by dunking on Scott Adams and forcing him to take his place.

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/790920262203998208


He also remains convinced that Trump will win because Trump is so masterfully persuasive.
I love everything about this.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Oxxidation posted:

My most influential books politically were The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged because they taught me exactly how not to be.

Does the influence have to be from the book itself, because I read Atlas Shrugged because a cute guy said I should, and when I told him I had problems with some of its concepts, he said I just didn't understand it. It was at that point I realized that men don't share their interests, they just pull them out where you can see them so you can tailor your praise accordingly, and I resolved to never grind my way through something so unpleasant for the false promise of being treated as an equal ever again. And then I threw the book at his head.

Actual books that influenced my politics:
The Social Contract by Rousseau, made me start to question capitalism.
Lysistrata by Aristophanes made me think more about collective action.
The Beauty Myth by Naomi Wolf. Baby's first feminist text.

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!

Mister Adequate posted:

Yeah same, his Culture series is definitely a huge influence on me, and highlights what I hope we can attain.

It is a bit funny that he was an avowed Socialist, but idiots reading Culture novels assume it is a libertarian society, to which Iain Banks basically had to keep explaining to fools that a libertarian fantasy only works when you move beyond needing to work for resources and beyond the prejudices of our current society.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

iospace posted:

Going back to healthcare chat, part of the problem with the whole system, especially costs, is how much it costs to become a doctor. While there's a multitude of openings around the country and whatnot, the monetary cost of college is still through the roof, which also leads to people wanting more money so they can pay off college faster. The money and prestige is what drew a lot of people in, and they graduate with 5+ figures of debt. Though it's likely only a matter of time till we see what happened with lawyers where everyone wanted quick and easy money as a lawyer, only to find out there are too many lawyers and not enough jobs (though probably not as bad due to the increase in population).

Also ads for Rx drugs (OTC drugs ads are fine with me).

One of the biggest problems with this is that general doctors are paid peanuts and good luck paying off medical school on that. That plus how you have to rush patients through as quick as possible just kind of kills any desire to be a GP. You have to go for one of the high paying specialties to make the money that everyone things doctors make.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Anyone have that old survey from the LF days that showed that about 90% of army soldiers would report a fellow soldier for straight up murdering a civilian, while only like 60% of marine soldiers would?

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
lol Trump can't even get his lies straight

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/25/trump-says-his-workers-having-tremendous-problems-with-obamacare.html

He is SOOOOO bad at this.

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Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Crow Jane posted:

Well, there is the fact my family had to leave Germany due to having dark curly hair and a -berg in our name
Well yes, in a way we provided a model for this whole thing.
I wrote about Nazi precursors of Trump's Civil War and election rigging talk here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3792791&userid=192152#post465376522

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