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Fishmech had my favorite Stemlord-related post in the January iteration of this thread.fishmech posted:They aren't completely different in the least. "social sciences" isn't even a coherent thing outside "science whiny stemlords don't like" which usually has a heavy correlation with "sciences with institutional respect for women in the field" while we're at it.
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Phone posted:Calc 2 is bullshit and memorizing trig transforms can suck my butt. That's why you take the nice math major track rather than the nasty engineering one... If you are lucky enough to have that option, anyway. Math is supposed to be about beautiful proofs, not nasty computations you need to work out stuff about the real world.
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mcmagic posted:There is just zero chance that Biden or Bernie would be losing NH. Hillary Clinton is uniquely hated. Since when is she losing New Hampshire?
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Lightning Knight posted:
That was dead and in the ground a long time ago.
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Crain posted:Nah, I work in STEM too and that poo poo is pervasive. In undergrad it was a constant stream about how humanities courses for the Gen Ed req were such bullshit, and "I don't have time for this soft poo poo I have REAL WORK to do". I reckon that mostly, these opinions are being produced by young try-hards, internet people , and students, FWIW. Hell, I spend all day with STEM academics and most of them are jaded as hell about it and would rather be elsewhere. Personally, I would play jazz or make beats for a living if I wasn't horribly afraid of being unable to pay my rent again.
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mcmagic posted:There is just zero chance that Biden or Bernie would be losing NH. Hillary Clinton is uniquely hated. Yeah, but Clinton is probably stronger in Florida than either would be. It's weird that Biden is assumed to be so much better than Hillary when no one has run meaningful oppo on him since 1988.
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Doorknob Slobber posted:hot take: degrees don't have anything to do with intelligence and a lot more to do with a person's ability to follow rules and orders Yeah and it's also immensely affected by trends. Tech degrees are this generation's law degrees and it's just as much of a scam. We have to stop telling students to all go into the same field because that one's got the guaranteed lifetime employment. There's no such thing anymore.
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Potato Salad posted:I am also someone who has known and knocked on doors for Bernie for half of my life. I am supporting Clinton because I actually believe in what Bernie believes in, and so to does Clinton. Yes, as I said, I have problems with Clinton but she is 85% similar to Sanders and I genuinely believe progress will be made under a President Clinton barring GOP obstrictionism which I don't think Clinton, Sanders or Obama can do anything about short of grabbing majority wherever possible. Even is Clinton is deadlocked she won't be working towards repealing gay marriage, abortion rights or other factors I consider important. I would be worried about her hawkish elements if not for the fact that "hawkish elements" is in comparison to literally anyone the GOP would toss out and while I think Clinton will be more Drone-Heavy than I personally would support I don't think she's an idiot looking for war.
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Fojar38 posted:Since when is she losing New Hampshire? New Hampshire is tightening a lot the past week or so and its becoming very clear in the past two days.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You guys the Cubs won the series and there's about to be a woman in the whitehouse and I can't dig my grandma up and tell her either of those things Use a Phoenix Down or a Gameshark code.
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xthetenth posted:It's not perfect, some level of statistics and scientific literacy would likely be useful, but it's a lot better than I want to be a big fancy person who makes big decisions and have no idea what the world is or how it works. Also I want to vote. I mean I do have to take statistics and that doesn't bother me. I love science actually I just have no grasp of math past the pre-algebra level and I hate it. But I'm also smart enough to be like oh cool when a real scientist is like yo this is how black holes work or whatever. My Linux Rig posted:That was dead and in the ground a long time ago. Hey man they almost went with McMuffin. Almost. They could've been regular suck instead of ultra suck.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You guys the Cubs won the series and there's about to be a woman in the whitehouse and I can't dig my grandma up and tell her either of those things Why not? Are there guards at the cemetery or something?
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Guys based on all this Trump momentum I expect him to be at this map by Friday evening.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You guys the Cubs won the series and there's about to be a woman in the whitehouse and I can't dig my grandma up and tell her either of those things I mean, technically you could...
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Also NH has historically not been polled well + early voting in NH looks fine for HRC. NH doesn't have early voting.
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Phone posted:Calc 2 is bullshit and memorizing trig transforms can suck my butt. if you're memorizing you done hosed up
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Dear USPol,  Calm the gently caress down, Thanks.
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Yesterday, a hardcore republican was telling me how Hillary is the only real "republican" on the ballot today and that Trump was a dirty liberal he couldn't stomach voting for. Then went on and on about how Clinton is more of a republican than Trump and how he can forgive her liberal tendencies when compared to "this anti-establishment bullshit: the opposite of conservatism." So, there is that.
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean I do have to take statistics and that doesn't bother me. I love science actually I just have no grasp of math past the pre-algebra level and I hate it. But I'm also smart enough to be like oh cool when a real scientist is like yo this is how black holes work or Stats is the one higher level math course that is really useful to properly understanding the world. The rest is backing for specialist education.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Also NH has historically not been polled well + early voting in NH looks fine for HRC. We don't have early voting in NH.
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Young Hegelian posted:Yeah, but Clinton is probably stronger in Florida than either would be. It's weird that Biden is assumed to be so much better than Hillary when no one has run meaningful oppo on him since 1988. Biden as the new Magic Bullet Candidate is hilarious because he's deffo someone Democrats love when he's not running for President. And who knows, maybe he would have been a stronger general election candidate. He didn't run. Like every time we have this debate, it boils down to the only thing certain people can say is to snipe from the sidelines about meaningless counter-factuals as way to seem serious or intelligent, when what it reveals is that they're really a loving moron.
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I suppose this is just academic bickering, but the smugness is usually concentrated in the TE part of STEM. And especially the engineers, gently caress those guys. Science and math people lean pretty heavily towards putzing around in academia (which is its own realm of smugness, but not in the *gently caress you my job is better than yours* way). If you want all the problem solving challenges of STEM with none of the employability just take a pure math degree and don't bother learning to code outside of one Python class 7 years ago  .
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Bhaal posted:I mean, technically you could... Please don't goad anyone else into using the pet semetary.
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CascadeBeta posted:Calm the gently caress down, loving never
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Also NH has historically not been polled well + early voting in NH looks fine for HRC. Where's the New Hampshire early voting data?
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xthetenth posted:It's not perfect, some level of statistics and scientific literacy would likely be useful, but it's a lot better than I want to be a big fancy person who makes big decisions and have no idea what the world is or how it works. Also I want to vote. You should get a degree in angel investing or hedge-fund management
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theflyingorc posted:Where's the New Hampshire early voting data? It doesn't exist.
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FactsAreUseless posted:STEMLord is a supervillain who couldn't get a job with his Botany degree and also can control plants with his brain. excuse me
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attackmole posted:I suppose this is just academic bickering, but the smugness is usually concentrated in the TE part of STEM. And especially the engineers, gently caress those guys. Science and math people lean pretty heavily towards putzing around in academia (which is its own realm of smugness, but not in the *gently caress you my job is better than yours* way). I thought math people go into finance these days.
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Keeshhound posted:And when we continue to fill growing demand for STEM, we're going to see some serious poo poo I fixed your post. Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah I liked Bernie and did some stuff with his supporters and a ton of them didn't really seem to be aware that he was a socialist or understand what that means. A lot of them were spouting boilerplate libertarian talking points when they said what they thought Bernie would do in office. This bit also pissed me right the gently caress off. You can even today flip through Tumblr / Reddit aggregations of Bernie artwork / discussions that bear zero resemblance to the actual reality that was Bernie's platform. Side note, and I keep bringing him up, my loving roommate. The Bernie --> Trump "Well, Bernie aside, Trump has more to offer me" flip is truly something amazing to watch. If your convictions, life experience, and understanding of human rights issues is / are so muddy and amorphous that they are able to legitimately straddle and form compatibility with Bernie and Trump, your personality? identity? soul? is so floppy and malleable that it might as well just be ignored.
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Covok posted:Yesterday, a hardcore republican was telling me how Hillary is the only real "republican" on the ballot today and that Trump was a dirty liberal he couldn't stomach voting for. Then went on and on about how Clinton is more of a republican than Trump and how he can forgive her liberal tendencies when compared to "this anti-establishment bullshit: the opposite of conservatism." They aren't wrong in that Hillary Clinton is closer to old-school conservatism than the tea party Trump bullshit is. So is Jill Stein for that matter though.
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attackmole posted:I suppose this is just academic bickering, but the smugness is usually concentrated in the TE part of STEM. And especially the engineers, gently caress those guys. Science and math people lean pretty heavily towards putzing around in academia (which is its own realm of smugness, but not in the *gently caress you my job is better than yours* way). Engineers are the demographic most likely to become terrorists Lol
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Phone posted:Yeah, congrats on not being a shitlord, I guess. I know, man. I loving know. I get it, and I hate it. I get it. STEM does attract some of the worst kind of libertarian, FYGM assholes, and it shouldn't be that way. This year especially, I desperately want to make people understand that it's not my field of study or career that's opposed to women or people of color or LGBT. Do you have any advice on how to work towards that and make things better? I pride myself on my intelligence, but this is a nut I don't know how to crack. 
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xthetenth posted:Stats is the one higher level math course that is really useful to properly understanding the world. The rest is backing for specialist education. Yeah I agree. I wish I could do math. It's immensely frustrating. I'm just generally abysmal at languages, it's the same reason I had a ton of trouble with Spanish.  I'm caught between freaking out about whether or not Hillary'a gonna win and being like nah dog she got this.
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Doorknob Slobber posted:hot take: degrees don't have anything to do with intelligence and a lot more to do with a person's ability to follow rules and orders No, Degrees are 100% about networking. Seriously that's it. Even people who end up failing to finally earn their degrees can succeed if they just focus on the real goal of college education: Getting in with the old farts who can get you jobs with the thousands of people they know who are in charge of important things.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Biden as the new Magic Bullet Candidate is hilarious because he's deffo someone Democrats love when he's not running for President. Yuuuuuuup. 538 quietly pointed this out last week, I think, maybe two weeks ago. But Hillary is actually up to near the bottom of "normal candidate favorability." We got this idea stuck in our collective heads that they were the most unpopular candidates ever, and since the DNC Clinton has actually been a low-median Democrat. Republicans hate her, but that doesn't actually make her less popular than any Democrat that they merely dislike a little.
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OddObserver posted:That's why you take the nice math major track rather than the nasty engineering one... If you are lucky enough to have that option, anyway. Math is supposed to be about beautiful proofs, not nasty computations you need to work out stuff about the real world. Some of us math majors go on to study PDEs anyways because we hate ourselves.
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