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Darkoni posted:411 hours later I finally beat MegaSatan with The Lost. Any tips with The Keeper? Blow up pots on the first floors, swallowed penny is amazing for the keeper and you'll find it quite a lot.
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Piggy Bank was intentionally nerfed for Keeper: It doesn't spawn coins as reliably. Swallowed Penny is better and easier to acquire via blowing up pots. Once you unlock the Wooden Nickel as a starting item, don't trade it unless you end up with another active item like the D6 or Mom's Trinket Box. Also as a general rule of thumb, Mom's Trinket Box is underappreciated: +1 Luck and doubles the effect of any trinket you hold. Curved Horn becomes a massive flat damage increase, Cancer and two Tears Up items pretty much gives you Soy Milk minus the crazy low damage.
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Oct 26, 2016 14:31
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Haven't thought about Isaac since I got 111%. Do we have a date for Afterbirth+ yet? Didn't look like there was one on the dev blog or in the OP of this thread but it got demoed at PAX apparently so I'm still asking.
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Oct 26, 2016 17:56
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Haven't thought about Isaac since I got 111%. Do we have a date for Afterbirth+ yet? Didn't look like there was one on the dev blog or in the OP of this thread but it got demoed at PAX apparently so I'm still asking. "Before Christmas" but we all know how Nicalis isn't a developer. There's a new blog post about Afterbirth+! Three new items, a boss teaser, and news on console/iOS/Vita versions as well.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:27
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For some reason the Holy Mantle isn't working in greed mode for the Lost.
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Oct 26, 2016 22:32
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Met posted:For some reason the Holy Mantle isn't working in greed mode for the Lost. Is it in the room with the two greeds at the end? The Holy Mantle only "primes" when you go into a new room, going to a new floor doesn't activate it.
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Oct 26, 2016 22:52
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From the start of the run? Never actually turns on, even though it has the blue glow.
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Oct 26, 2016 22:54
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So the second run I have capable of deafeating Mom as The Keeper I beat MegaSatan. The kicker? I didn't manage to get Swallowed Penny until the Chest. I'm actually a little upset.
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Oct 27, 2016 05:12
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quote:We still haven’t given up on this one, but it’s a VERY low priority. The optimization involved for acceptable performance is a big deal. The little Vita doesn’t like crazy weapon combos. I guess its something.
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Oct 27, 2016 08:57
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Met posted:From the start of the run? Never actually turns on, even though it has the blue glow. It was working fine for me last night!
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Oct 27, 2016 09:37
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Just had a pretty great run with the Keeper where I had an amazing engine with the Swallowed Penny, Humbleing Bundle, Restock, and the gold bomb. Went to buy every item in the store eventually getting Chaos. I forget which items they were but blowing myself up over and over also led me to getting max bombs and keys. Had to go to the next floor because the last items spawned were ones I didn't want but luckily I got a gold bomb again the next floor. Unfortunately I ended up killing myself from a very powerful bomb blast. I'm not even sure why that bomb blast was able to kill me since that was like the third or fourth blast in a round of coin grinding.
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Oct 27, 2016 14:24
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chippy posted:It was working fine for me last night! 
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Oct 27, 2016 19:07
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It doesn't work in the starting room, you gotta leave and come back.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:18
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That seems like something that should have been fixed a year ago.
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Oct 27, 2016 19:31
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So yes, what I said then (I specified the room with the two greeds because... why wouldn't you want to go to the treasure room first????) Met posted:That seems like something that should have been fixed a year ago. A lot of things "should have been fixed".
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redneck nazgul posted:Also as a general rule of thumb, Mom's Trinket Box is underappreciated: +1 Luck and doubles the effect of any trinket you hold. Curved Horn becomes a massive flat damage increase, Cancer and two Tears Up items pretty much gives you Soy Milk minus the crazy low damage. It works really well with the ones you listed there, but it has no effect on 9 out of 10 random trinkets. If I find mom's box ill carry it for that floor just to spam activations until it spawns either Cancer of Curved Horn, then it's useful.
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Oct 27, 2016 21:26
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 why is this a room in the basement Pre-hole fix this would literally be a run killer.
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Oct 28, 2016 05:06
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For the past couple days my game runs at half speed, but only if I'm on fullscreen mode. Looks like it's time to take out Hush with the Lost and Keeper.
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Oct 31, 2016 07:16
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Dang, I so rarely get ludovico tech or any other weird and cool modifiers and when I do I can guarantee a bullshit room will kill me before I can have fun with it. In other news, still trying to beat hush with the Lost. Man, megasatan is a cakewalk now after having to deal with that bullshit.
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Wow. The Afterbirth Challenges are absolute bullshit. Each and every single one so far. They're not even fun. Like having all three bombs on BRAINS and it takes 3 seconds of holding the fire button for one to launch. I just tried speed. Had the Bible and every other advantage I could possibly get except anything that revealed the map and I still was several rooms short of getting to Mom's Heart before that timer ran out. EVERY SINGLE FLOOR the boss room was the last thing I discovered.
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Nov 8, 2016 22:42
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The insult to injury is that the challenges don't even have good unlocks to reward you for beating their unfun bullshit.
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Nov 8, 2016 22:46
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Met posted:Wow. The Afterbirth Challenges are absolute bullshit. Each and every single one so far. They're not even fun. Like having all three bombs on BRAINS and it takes 3 seconds of holding the fire button for one to launch. Most of them are unfun bullshit, but XXXXXXXL (or however many X it has) is fun, or at least I really enjoyed it. Its also pretty easy and I was slightly annoyed I cleared it first attempt because when I'm playing Isaac I like to have a goal of unlocking something or other and now I have no reason to play it again while I still have some of the unfun bullshit ones uncleared.
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Nov 8, 2016 22:48
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SiKboy posted:Most of them are unfun bullshit, but XXXXXXXL (or however many X it has) is fun, or at least I really enjoyed it. Its also pretty easy and I was slightly annoyed I cleared it first attempt because when I'm playing Isaac I like to have a goal of unlocking something or other and now I have no reason to play it again while I still have some of the unfun bullshit ones uncleared. You're right. That's the only one I have completed. Atomicated posted:The insult to injury is that the challenges don't even have good unlocks to reward you for beating their unfun bullshit. The items from Pay to Play (new pills), Have a Heart (new pills), Blue Bomber (Gold Bomb), Speed (Get out of Jail Free Card), and Brains (Stud Finder) would be beneficial in the long grind in finishing up the rest of my achievements but gently caress if I can be bothered now. I thought doing greed enough times across various characters was bad enough to get the Holy Mantle for the Lost and unlocking the Keeper.
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Nov 8, 2016 22:58
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Just download 100% saves and play for fun, the way you like to play.
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I like being a completionist. I don't like tedium for the sake of tedium.
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Met posted:You're right. That's the only one I have completed. Yeah, I brute forced my way through most of them, and Gold Bomb is helpful (although not exactly essential), and if you are wanting to get everyone their Mega Satan checked off you pretty much need to unlock Get out of Jail Free card (although for me its been frustratingly rare compared to most of the other red backed cards). I havent bothered with the Stud Finder because I was finding Brains far too frustrating (and anyway I ddint think the stud finder sounded that great). I've unlocked the new pills, they arent particularly useful. they mainly bloat the pill pool to make it even less likely you get one of the actually good pills. Speed! is pretty doable aslong as you arent as unlucky as you were. All you need is a couple of floors where you luck into the treasure room and the boss room on your first route through the floor to give you a time buffer, and ideally an item that can help kill bosses quickly (Head of Krampus springs to mind). Its pretty much all on the RNG, but its not like you need a particular set of items that rarely show up or anything. My dumb rear end is currently trying to get The Keepers Mega Satan clear done, and it is Not Going loving Well. I've managed to get more than a few runs that get a loadout that would kill megasatan in seconds but I havent seen a trace of Dads Key, cannot buy or find a Get out of Jail Free card, and even when I donate money, bomb the shopkeepers and turn down devil deals the angel rooms just will not spawn. Except for once, when it turned out the one thing I didnt have was a bomb...
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I'm coming up on 1200 hours of play time - I just can't find any other games that can compete in the "sit back with my controller and listen to music or watch a documentary while I play" stakes. My go-to is Eden runs, but I'm poo poo so my record is only 18 straight with her. I mention this because if I can complete the game then anyone can, but perhaps my tolerance for bullshit is high? Even after all that time I only got my first legit Super Meat Boy a couple of days ago. Prior to that I used an item combo to create him like most sane people but it was a surprise to see the legitimate guy appear.
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SiKboy posted:My dumb rear end is currently trying to get The Keepers Mega Satan clear done, and it is Not Going loving Well. I've managed to get more than a few runs that get a loadout that would kill megasatan in seconds but I havent seen a trace of Dads Key, cannot buy or find a Get out of Jail Free card, and even when I donate money, bomb the shopkeepers and turn down devil deals the angel rooms just will not spawn. Except for once, when it turned out the one thing I didnt have was a bomb... What worked for me (and most other characters) is to abuse the sacrifice room. Eventually after a few uses you'll spawn the angels and each one drops a part of the key. Make sure you have lots of money lying around on the floor and don't do 10 sacrifices early unless you wanna be teleported to the Dark Room before being prepared.
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Isaac would be fun if there's a mod that makes it so seed games let you unlock stuff because I like making progress even if it's unearned.
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Few things suck harder than spawning an angel in a Sacrifice Room and then accidentally stumbling out the door. Or being pushed out by your own explosive attack. Sacrifice Rooms are great in Afterbirth though. Now that I have 1001% the only times I ever go to the Dark Room is when I get a Sac Room in the Cathedral. Last night I had a couple of fun breaking runs where I exploited Store Restock and the Blank Card in the store in the Blue Womb. Problem is, I wound up picking up Chaos and then MissingNo, and test-firing the ridiculous cluster bomb tears wound up cleaning out the Donation Box. I use that thing as a cross-run savings account. I need to do enough throw-away Azazel runs to get some money back in there.
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I'm on the xbox otherwise I'd use a save file. Just need a few things to 1001% the game, so I think I've earned it. But, I guess I gotta knuckle down and get those dang unlocks the hard way.
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FNSL DXRM A real generous Greed mode run. Lots of good items.
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Two afternoons later. gently caress the BRAINS! Challenge. Also got Speed! the other day. Zesty fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Nov 11, 2016 02:47
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Met posted:Two afternoons later. I find the best thing about some of the challenges is the knowledge after you beat it that you never have to go near it again. I managed the Keepers mega-satan mark the other day too. Actually the next run after I posted about it, got an early angel room (and if I remember right once you have half the key you are more likely to get another angel room to get the other half, which I did), a pair of flies, a ball of bandages, daddy longlegs, piggy bank and holy mantle. Got a chaos card in the Cathederal which let me skip mega satans first form, and that was pretty much that. Now I have about 3 challenges left to finish. And in theory keeper boss rush, but I dont want to unlock the sticky nickels. Doubt I'll ever get 1001% because there are a few keeper marks that I'd need to redo on Hard, and gently caress the keeper forever at this point. Unless he gets a serious rebalance in Afterbirth+. I really doubt they'll improve him enough for me to enjoy playing him (bump his luck up by 1 and give him the swallowed penny and he'd be actually fun, but theres no way they do that. Even a percentage chance to have the swallowed penny effect on hit would do), but you never know.
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SiKboy posted:I find the best thing about some of the challenges is the knowledge after you beat it that you never have to go near it again. I've started doing Mega Satan again. I had done it once or twice before he was given achievements. They really changed that fight up but he's seems easier now. I haven't played the Keeper much (I did manage to one-shot a greed run with him), but it seems like the Swallowed Penny guarantees a good run for him. I retract my criticism of Blue Bomber. I didn't realize it started with Pyromaniac so Kamikaze does no self-damage. Zesty fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Why do some of the easy challenges end at Mom but solar system just goes on forever...
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Nov 14, 2016 23:23
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The same reason McMillen said Eve was his favorite character in the original. Tedium =? Fun.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:28
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Met posted:The same reason McMillen said Eve was his favorite character in the original. Tedium =? Fun. He really really likes risk/reward types of mechanics.
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BJPaskoff posted:He really really likes risk/reward types of mechanics. He really likes risk/less reward than you'd have anyway mechanics
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