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open24hours
Jan 7, 2001


They don't have a great track record, and tend to generate surpluses. This is a decent overview of the wool price crash of the early 90s, which was the result of a price floor. The EU's experience with wine lakes and butter mountains is another interesting example of the issues surrounding price floors that's worth looking into if you're interested.

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gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

starkebn posted:

why don't more farmers form co-ops?

isn't Murray Goulburn a co op? Didn't do those farmers much good

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

open24hours posted:

They don't have a great track record, and tend to generate surpluses. This is a decent overview of the wool price crash of the early 90s, which was the result of a price floor. The EU's experience with wine lakes and butter mountains is another interesting example of the issues surrounding price floors that's worth looking into if you're interested.

slap a quota on as well

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

gay picnic defence posted:

isn't Murray Goulburn a co op? Didn't do those farmers much good

it seems a lot of farmer co-ops have poo poo constitutions that mean the farmers just get ripped off and the board make bank

Fuckface the Hedgehog
Jun 12, 2007

starkebn posted:

it seems a lot of farmer co-ops have poo poo constitutions that mean the farmers just get ripped off and the board make bank

Murray Goulburn was actually a co-op that did pretty well for itself before enough chucklefucks got greedy to sway the vote to bring a whole heap of idiots onto the board who where promising to make it rain cash from the asian dairy market.
Anyway those execs got in, tanked loving everything, never arguing against the predatory pricing schemes of the Big Two, causing the milk price crash and causing MG to be dumped by woolworths as a supplier, and are now in the process of jumping ship with parachute money while the farmers in the co-op are totally hosed.


Basicly Co-ops are good unless you get a critical mass of greedy pricks.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts
The fish and chips at the Bermagui Fishermens Co-op ain't that great either.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

Graic Gabtar posted:

The fish and chips at the Bermagui Fishermens Co-op ain't that great either.
gently caress you I will cut you, there was a time when those fish and chips were crunchy mana from heaven. Tasmania has such soggy lackluster poor fair compared the the chips and wonderful Blue Grenadier I've had from the Bermagui Co-Op ( but this was back when it was a single story besser block & concrete slab, I've only been back once since it was redeveloped ).

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Graic Gabtar posted:

The fish and chips at the Bermagui Fishermens Co-op ain't that great either.

what about the scallops?

Meat Miracle
Oct 24, 2010
actually I think you'll find that all co-ops are bastards

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

ZombyDog posted:

gently caress you I will cut you, there was a time when those fish and chips were crunchy mana from heaven. Tasmania has such soggy lackluster poor fair compared the the chips and wonderful Blue Grenadier I've had from the Bermagui Co-Op ( but this was back when it was a single story besser block & concrete slab, I've only been back once since it was redeveloped ).
Went back in the besser brick days. Everyone I've ever met had raved about the co-op. Sadly the soggy, oily and gut ache inducing experience wasn't quite up to the hype.

Birdstrike posted:

what about the scallops?
gently caress you I will cut you...

Divorced And Curious
Jan 23, 2009

democracy depends on sausage sizzles

Graic Gabtar posted:

gently caress you I will cut you...

look nah be generous he's probably talking about crumbed scallops, a delicious shellfish dish one can often find from the kind of fish n chip stores which also sell battered savs and potato cakes

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Wait, what do the degenerate states call battered savs?

TheMightyHandful
Dec 8, 2008

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Wait, what do the degenerate states call battered savs?

I have seen them called Dagwood dogs and Pluto pups.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Meat Miracle posted:

actually I think you'll find that all cops are bastards

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

:thejoke:

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
Have to spend a few days in Sydney. Any good recommendations for things to do or places to eat at?

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
So apparently there are Bunnings stores in Brisbane which are supplying the offshore concentration camps with poo poo.

chyaroh
Aug 8, 2007

Recoome posted:

So apparently there are Bunnings stores in Brisbane which are supplying the offshore concentration camps with poo poo.

"If you can find someone with lower ethics we'll beat them by 10%"

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lower principles are just the beginning

e. you fucker

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service

Zenithe posted:

Have to spend a few days in Sydney. Any good recommendations for things to do or places to eat at?

Bitter Phew on Oxford St is cool and good if you like craft beer and they'll order Mr Crackles for you if you like drat fine pork sandwiches.

Also I know the owner and he's paying me to say this.

It's just bar though so if you want something fancy with seats and a menu maybe consider drowning yourself in the harbour you bourgie gently caress.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Darling Harbour was pretty nice

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Check out the Powerhouse Museum before it's torn down; there's a pretty good french baguette cafe over the road.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Zenithe posted:

Have to spend a few days in Sydney. Any good recommendations for things to do or places to eat at?

Take a ferry ride somewhere, the harbour is pretty cool.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Take a ferry ride somewhere, the harbour is pretty cool.
The trip out to Watsons Bay is nice, but not an old style ferry. Don't plan to eat at Doyles.

Climb the bridge maybe? A pretty good experience.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Graic Gabtar posted:

The trip out to Watsons Bay is nice, but not an old style ferry. Don't plan to eat at Doyles.

Climb the bridge maybe? A pretty good experience.

only borgies can afford to climb the bridge

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Au Revoir Shosanna posted:

Bitter Phew on Oxford St is cool and good if you like craft beer and they'll order Mr Crackles for you if you like drat fine pork sandwiches.


Not a fan of craft beer places in general, but I'm going to eat the gently caress out of that Mr Crackles place.

Thanks for suggestions, probably take a ferry and stuff.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
go to the 24hr licensed places near the casino and punch on

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Woolworth's head of buying Steve Donohue said it was impossible to blame the tough conditions faced by dairy farmers on the supermarket's own-brand milk, which sells for $1 a litre.

"Woolworths' own-brand milk accounts for just 3 per cent of Australia's total milk production, so 96 per cent of Australia's 9.6 billion litres of milk goes into other products," Mr Donohue said.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

new bill leak

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Recoome posted:

only borgies can afford to climb the bridge
Well walk across it for free and wave at all the 'borgies' above.

Irony not lost.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
The bridgeclimb costs like 300$ it's not for battlers like us.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Graic Gabtar posted:

The posting at the Auspol Co-op ain't that great either.

Divorced And Curious
Jan 23, 2009

democracy depends on sausage sizzles

Graic Gabtar posted:

Well walk across it for free and wave at all the 'borgies' above.

Irony not lost.

being able to properly spell and pronounce "bourgeois" without looking it up is the surest sign that you're a bourge

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Anidav posted:

Woolworth's head of buying Steve Donohue said it was impossible to blame the tough conditions faced by dairy farmers on the supermarket's own-brand milk, which sells for $1 a litre.

"Woolworths' own-brand milk accounts for just 3 per cent of Australia's total milk production, so 96 per cent of Australia's 9.6 billion litres of milk goes into other products," Mr Donohue said.

How could it possibly be 3% when it has a third of the shelf space? I haven't even been able to buy non-store brand milk in the last couple of weeks, because it's been sold out every time I've been shopping.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

He's talking about total milk production, not just what's on sale as drinking milk in the supermarket.

quote:

http://www.dairyaustralia.com.au/Markets-and-statistics/Production-and-sales/Domestic-Sales-Summary.aspx
The private label brands’ share of total supermarket milk volumes has been relatively stable over the last couple of years; and up from around 25% back in 1999/2000. Looking more closely at the fresh white milk segments, where the majority of the pricing activity of recent years has occurred, private label brands currently account for 64% of fresh white regular full cream milk and 51% of modified fresh white milk sales. However, this changed quite dramatically in May 2016, with consumers responding to prominent social media campaigns to support Australian dairy farmers through increased purchases of branded milk.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Synthbuttrange posted:

new bill leak



This is perfect in every way.

aejix
Sep 18, 2007

It's about finding that next group of core players we can win with in the next 6, 8, 10 years. Let's face it, it's hard for 20-, 21-, 22-year-olds to lead an NHL team. Look at the playoffs.

That quote is from fucking 2018. Fuck you Jim
Pillbug

Zenithe posted:

Have to spend a few days in Sydney. Any good recommendations for things to do or places to eat at?

Depends how mobile you are because public transport is pretty rear end when it comes to getting anywhere that isn't in the CBD but:

- Ferry, as everyone else has already stated
- Bamboo dumpling bar in surry hills (the tiny pub it's attached to is cool and has amazing beer selection, plus food is cheap as gently caress)
- Frankie's pizza in the CBD has tasty pizza by the slice and pinball machines
- Literally anywhere in Newtown that you like the look of (recommend getting an old school Aussie takeaway burger from Dean's Diner)
- Oxford Tavern in Petersham, get there around 12:30pm on a Saturday or Sunday for an array of smoked meats (little expensive but not completely outrageous)
- If you want to do a day trip out to arguably the most gorgeous lookout in the blue mountains, head to Lockleys Pylon and be blown away by the Grose Valley (fair bit of hiking involved but totally worth it, hardly anybody ever goes out there, otherwise just go do the Wentworth falls loop that everyone does, particularly if it's been raining in the days before)
- Go canoeing at Audley Weir (take a joint and some swimming togs)
- kayaking in middle harbour is pretty sweet too, there's a hire place on Spit Bridge (do not bring a joint because a loving maniac on a 30 foot powerboat blatantly ignoring the speed signs will turn you into an On Water Matter)
- Tramsheds in Glebe/Forest Lodge is nice and new, relatively easy to get to on public transport, mostly food only though
- Ripples at Milsons Point has a loving cracking view of the bridge but food is a little pricey (quite good though)
- Mojo Record Bar in CBD is cool, also Baxter's Inn if you like whiskey
- powerhouse museum before they build more soulless apartments there instead
- Hero of Waterloo in the rocks is one of my favourite pubs, occasionally there's a jazz band there fronted by a lady who's like a thousand years old who still completely rips it on saxophone, plus there's often markets on there nearby

There is seriously a ton of stuff to do.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

open24hours posted:

He's talking about total milk production, not just what's on sale as drinking milk in the supermarket.

Makes sense. Although it can't be good that they are killing the profit margin on one of their most profitable segments in an industry with very little margin.

Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please
The $3pl deal has a time limit, I forget when it expires. They'll take the hit though if it gets you in the stores and buying other stuff.

hooman posted:

This might be a crazy idea, but how about amending the corporations act to include a responsibility for directors/boards to act sustainably in addition to maximising profit?

I mean that also should resolve issues like the corporate raiding of Dick Smith Electronics where they acted for as much short term gain as possible and destroyed a business.

However much like a lot of economics I know very little about this. Is it even feasible?

Risk is part of business and courts are very reluctant to police behavior unless it's breaching duties as, otherwise, you're always going to be addressing it through the benefit if hindsight.

Nibbles! fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Nov 16, 2016

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Aug 2, 2014

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