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100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



uh the government is a sham

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Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

WarMECH posted:

No Rosie's quote isn't picking on him, it's the reaction from others (jokes about Autism) is what I'm talking about. Not necessarily from this forum, mind you.

oh okay, i feel you

Serf posted:

the EC is what counts. I don't agree with that, but here we are

but the EC is normal so what are you gonna do? :shrug:

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

100 degrees Calcium posted:

hey man can you help me move some of these deck chairs? my hands are full alternating between claiming nothing matters and claiming that every move to oppose trump will end in disaster.

sorry but since i've convinced myself that we can't do anything i'm going to go catch some guilt-free sleep in my quarters

*walks down stairs becoming completely submerged in icewater*

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Gonna be that guy and say wishing for faithless electors is a pointless self-delusion. Sure, we get faithless electors every election, but they have never, in 300 years, ever changed the results of an election.

If faithless electors change the results of this election, I'll eat a bug on camera. I'll Sam Wang it. You want to know why? Because this is a safer bet than the general, even with all the broken and wrong polls.

Trump will be President on January 20th. You can set your watch to it.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock

Nichael posted:

In a hypothetical scenario wherein faithless electors decide this election, there will be no slaughter, war, or bloodshed. There will be a few protests from deplorable Nazi collaborators. They will parade around frog memes for about three days and then immediately get back to jerking it to pedo anime porn.

and then precedence is set and welp welcome to never seeing another Democrat president again ever

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

Turdfuzz posted:

im not depressed

no depression, no depression

you're depressed

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




Doesn't the EC vote have to be confirmed by Congress? Wouldn't they just.... not do that?

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!


This is what I was looking for! Thanks for posting about it.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Covok posted:

Gonna be that guy and say wishing for faithless electors is a pointless self-delusion. Sure, we get faithless electors every election, but they have never, in 300 years, ever changed the results of an election.

If faithless electors change the results of this election, I'll eat a bug on camera. I'll Sam Wang it. You want to know why? Because this is a safer bet than the general, even with all the broken and wrong polls.

Trump will be President on January 20th. You can set your watch to it.
I agree but people should still try to get them to vote against Trump. Those scared of potential repercussions from faithless electors deciding anything contrary to the racist electoral college are living in the Things Matter Zone.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Admiral Ray posted:

I don't know that we need to the EC to vote for Clinton. No one would trust her. Election is done and done. Rather, if this crazy idea gets done, the EC should just not vote Trump. Push it to the House and Senate to deal with over Christmas. We'll still probably end up with Trump/Pence, but it'd get people pissed enough to end the EC just in time for the next spirited charlatan to take us for a ride.

Trump is inevitable. There is literally no way to escape him.

The Electoral College isn't going anywhere either. The Republicans need it to win and the Democrats need something to blame for their failings rather than attempting to make real change. It is useful to both sides.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Serf posted:

"the whole system looks absurd... Which it may well be, but it built these roads."

tfw you care more about destroying neoliberalism than helping the people it affects

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

ymgve posted:

and then precedence is set and welp welcome to never seeing another Democrat president again ever

lol show your work there

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

hey guys remember when the supreme court handed the presidency to the republicans and there was never another republican president elected

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

euphronius posted:

So he's not going after Hillary ??

even his supporters must be shocked by this flip flop? No?

Why is this news to anyone? He said he wasn't going after her over a week ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMnB6t4oUY&hd=1

Optimus Subprime
Mar 26, 2005

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

People who think that a country which is armed to the teeth, has previously fought a civil war, and is more tribal than ever doesn't have the possibility for another civil war are ignoring all historical precedent.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Trump up to almost +0 approval levels. Americans are so loving useless.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Yinlock posted:

tfw you care more about destroying neoliberalism than helping the people it affects

I dunno how you got that from my post but cool

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Covok posted:

Gonna be that guy and say wishing for faithless electors is a pointless self-delusion. Sure, we get faithless electors every election, but they have never, in 300 years, ever changed the results of an election.

If faithless electors change the results of this election, I'll eat a bug on camera. I'll Sam Wang it. You want to know why? Because this is a safer bet than the general, even with all the broken and wrong polls.

Trump will be President on January 20th. You can set your watch to it.

Serf posted:

Trump is inevitable. There is literally no way to escape him.

The Electoral College isn't going anywhere either. The Republicans need it to win and the Democrats need something to blame for their failings rather than attempting to make real change. It is useful to both sides.

but again, giving in and accepting this is what trump loving wants

he wants you to just mumble and shuffle off, thinking that 2018 will somehow be different after you've done nothing for 2 years

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
of course trump thinks his son got autism from the vaccines. couldnt possibly be that he has lovely genes or the fact he was like 60 at the time he impregnated melania

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Serf posted:

I dunno how you got that from my post but cool

Serf posted:

And more insidiously, we would lose our chance to kill neoliberalism.

like that implies you want trump to win so everyone will wake up to the evils of neoliberalism, in which case :chloe:

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Optimus Subprime posted:

People who think that a country which is armed to the teeth, has previously fought a civil war, and is more tribal than ever doesn't have the possibility for another civil war are ignoring all historical precedent.

Netflix and anime did not exist then. No one wants to lose those comforts. That's the precedent now, and as I said, people on both the left and right ignore that.

gregday
May 23, 2003

Darkman Fanpage posted:

of course trump thinks his son got autism from the vaccines. couldnt possibly be that he has lovely genes or the fact he was like 60 at the time he impregnated Ivanka

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

Optimus Subprime posted:

People who think that a country which is armed to the teeth, has previously fought a civil war, and is more tribal than ever doesn't have the possibility for another civil war are ignoring all historical precedent.

yeah i remember all the revolutions in countries with <5% unemployment, a new season of [some hit reality/contest show] on tuesday nights that would get in the way of any revolution planning

post that again when the people who would be pissed don't make 72k per year on average

Log082
Nov 8, 2008


Serf posted:

the dude won the electoral college, which is a hosed up institution that shouldn't exist, but he won it

time to make peace with that and work towards saving what we can on 2018 and beating him in 2020

Stopping someone like Trump is literally the point of the electoral college.

Not that they WILL, of course.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Darkman Fanpage posted:

of course trump thinks his son got autism from the vaccines. couldnt possibly be that he has lovely genes or the fact he was like 60 at the time he impregnated melania
Pretty sure Trump doesn't have the theorized Super Serum that some of his fans do. Bum genes. Sad!

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Serf posted:

Trump is inevitable. There is literally no way to escape him.

"You hear that Mr America? That is the sound of inevitability"

Serf
May 5, 2011


Yinlock posted:

but again, giving in and accepting this is what trump loving wants

he wants you to just mumble and shuffle off, thinking that 2018 will somehow be different after you've done nothing for 2 years

show me where I said we should do nothing. My whole thing has been "we need to start working for the future"


Yinlock posted:

like that implies you want trump to win so everyone will wake up to the evils of neoliberalism, in which case :chloe:

not the post you were quoting but okay lol

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

jesus christ serf it took you one day to go from "let's do what we can" to "trump is inevitable there is no escape"

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Serf posted:

show me where I said we should do nothing. My whole thing has been "we need to start working for the future"

Serf posted:

Trump is inevitable. There is literally no way to escape him.

and this entire argument you've started

nopants
May 29, 2004
frankly, ive been hoping for a clinton dictatorship this whole time.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Yinlock posted:

jesus christ serf it took you one day to go from "let's do what we can" to "trump is inevitable there is no escape"

again, show me where those two statements are incompatible

we lost, so we suck it up and start getting poo poo done for the next time around holy poo poo

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


GOP electors are never going to vote for Clinton you dumb turds. The only *technically* possible out here is if you get 37 GOP electors to vote for someone like Kasich or Romney and then throw it into the house and hope the GOP Not Trump prevails over Trump. You will never, ever get 37 GOP electors to vote for Clinton or the GOP house to vote for Clinton.

Also the GOP would likely fall apart but you'd likely get a warmer general public reception to this than you think given the garbage approval ratings of both Trump and Clinton.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Yinlock posted:

but again, giving in and accepting this is what trump loving wants

he wants you to just mumble and shuffle off, thinking that 2018 will somehow be different after you've done nothing for 2 years

Listen, while the point of the EC is to stop people like Trump and all that, they just won't. The EC is made of a bunch of spineless cowards and idoits, just like most of government. They will let Trump walk in as a facist leader, destroy this country and all it stands for, and be left questioning "how did this all go so wrong?" in 8 years. The government has failed us, the people have failed us, and the EC will fail us.

That doesn't mean we take it lying down, but what purpose does yelling at people to vote faithless serve? It's a pointless exercise.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Karl Sharks posted:

yeah i remember all the revolutions in countries with <5% unemployment, a new season of [some hit reality/contest show] on tuesday nights that would get in the way of any revolution planning

post that again when the people who would be pissed don't make 72k per year on average
Yup. People "armed to the teeth" are cosplayers, nothing more. No one will rebel and there will be no war as long as Westworld and Game of Thrones continue to exist.

Yinlock posted:

jesus christ serf it took you one day to go from "let's do what we can" to "trump is inevitable there is no escape"
Serf went from righteous anger and leftist fury to Jeb! so quickly that I barely noticed.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

here's one way to work for the future: tell donald j trump to go gently caress himself in every way possible, not just when it's convinent

WarMECH
Dec 23, 2004
In the end, all will Wear The Hat.

deathbysnusnu
Feb 25, 2016


Nichael posted:

In a hypothetical scenario wherein faithless electors decide this election, there will be no slaughter, war, or bloodshed. There will be a few protests from deplorable Nazi collaborators. They will parade around frog memes for about three days and then immediately get back to jerking it to pedo anime porn.

Civil war 2 is still a better outcome. Fuher trump spent an afternoon berating the media, and has a cadre of people already seeing the media is an evil fith column. At least in civil war 2, the left will have an attempt to fight back.

deathbysnusnu fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Nov 22, 2016

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.

The pivot is real

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Serf
May 5, 2011


Nichael posted:

Serf went from righteous anger and leftist fury to Jeb! so quickly that I barely noticed.

turn your monitor on

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