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This show isn't terrific but it's a far cry from the amazing terribleness of late Dexter and Under the Dome
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 07:30 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 18:55 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:This show isn't terrific but it's a far cry from the amazing terribleness of late Dexter and Under the Dome The writing is certainly getting there, people seem to forget that Dexter was actually a really good and ambitious show at some point.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 07:34 |
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Nope, always bad. You've been wrong this whole time.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 07:43 |
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Aphrodite posted:Nope, always bad. You've been wrong this whole time. Stop gaslighting me Seriously though, go back and watch season 1. Ostensibly, it's mostly the same characters, sets, music and themes that the following 7 seasons re-hashed until oblivion. However, upon closer inspection there's also interesting cinematography, non-recycled dialogue and even prestige style (of which we've had a lot this year but certainly not back then) experimental episodes. It still stands very well on its own. The biggest way that the later seasons detracts from it though is the soundtrack as 3-5 of the tracks are re-used in the subsequent seasons to the point where you'll mentally groan every time they play. So, in conclusion
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 08:07 |
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I rolled my eyes at Dexter so much I stopped watching it midway through season 1. The characters/narrative on this show have never been nuanced, I just liked how effective Killer Frost was.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 13:29 |
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MiddleOne posted:Stop gaslighting me The Flash, not Dexter.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 14:35 |
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Aphrodite posted:The Flash, not Dexter. I don't know why this didn't occur to me.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 15:29 |
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I think I just wanted to see Barry get verbally owned at some point please do not take this away from me
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 15:55 |
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MiddleOne posted:Am I operating on a different plane of reality from the rest of you? The Killer Frost diatribe was the worst written villain turn I have ever seen. The episode basically went like this, Didn't they mention that her powers were messing with her brain chemistry or am I miss remembering.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 16:55 |
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Bad writing cannot fail, it can only be failed.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 17:00 |
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Writh posted:Didn't they mention that her powers were messing with her brain chemistry or am I miss remembering. Which only makes it worse because now superpowers are some kind of sickness that make you crazy/evil? That's opening a can of worms.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 17:31 |
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LinkesAuge posted:Which only makes it worse because now superpowers are some kind of sickness that make you crazy/evil? That's opening a can of worms. I have to assume they're doing that to set up why the show will have to take away Caitlyn & Wally's powers during the season finale. You know, because heaven forbid we have more than one superhero per superhero show. What do you think this is, Legends of Tomorrow? In a semi-related thought: Post-Flashpoint do they still have Black Siren locked up in the no-lunch supermax?
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 17:40 |
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8one6 posted:In a semi-related thought: Post-Flashpoint do they still have Black Siren locked up in the no-lunch supermax? Unclear. But they've said Katie Cassidy is playing multiple characters this season, so likely.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 17:52 |
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MiddleOne posted:Am I operating on a different plane of reality from the rest of you? The Killer Frost diatribe was the worst written villain turn I have ever seen. The episode basically went like this, sir. sir I just asked if you wanted to make it a combo meal
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 18:28 |
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MiddleOne posted:Am I operating on a different plane of reality from the rest of you? The Killer Frost diatribe was the worst written villain turn I have ever seen. The episode basically went like this, She had plenty of opportunities to murder Barry and literally took none of them. She's a medical doctor with intimate knowledge of Barry's physiology and has treated / observed him being frozen. I think you just want her to have no motivation. Like, I'm very meh on Caitlyn as a character, but this is literally the first storyline she's been a part of that I feel makes a bit of sense.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 19:06 |
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LinkesAuge posted:Which only makes it worse because now superpowers are some kind of sickness that make you crazy/evil? That's opening a can of worms. I don't recall them saying that for anyone else and they have observed other metas. I think HER powers specifically come with the added bonus of it messing with her mind. While we may talk about how evil Barry is and how murder happy he is, in the context of the story all of his violent acts were justified by those around him showing he wasn't slipping into some kind of evil persona. Seems like an inordinate amount of douchebags got powers for the most part. A lot of pre-collider footage of folks showing them already being criminals or someone directly screwing them over or hammering them, causing them to go on a rampage once they have powers. Basically her powers are kinda like that kid that got super strength but it was making him old. She gets ice powers and it makes her more and more mentally unstable.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 20:16 |
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Writh posted:I don't recall them saying that for anyone else and they have observed other metas. I think HER powers specifically come with the added bonus of it messing with her mind. While we may talk about how evil Barry is and how murder happy he is, in the context of the story all of his violent acts were justified by those around him showing he wasn't slipping into some kind of evil persona. Seems like an inordinate amount of douchebags got powers for the most part. A lot of pre-collider footage of folks showing them already being criminals or someone directly screwing them over or hammering them, causing them to go on a rampage once they have powers. Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde is a fairly popular comic book go to, even encompassing a hero or two (Hulk, Ghost Rider). I don't really expect any kind of feasible explanation for why having cold powers turns you into a psycopath, but we already have 'Speed Force!' so it doesn't bother me that much. You also have Frankie/Magenta, who seemed to have a similar issue with her powers. Maybe it's a side effect of Flashpoint?
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 20:54 |
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All that melodrama and no blue corset? Flash, you've failed me again.
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 00:42 |
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What if Savitar is the evil half of Barry's personality that he's subconsciously started manifesting out of Goes Fast because of guilt over Flashpoint?
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 01:10 |
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With the help of Julian who he has freed from Savitar's control, Barry is able to finally corner the God of Speed. He dashes in for the fight, when suddenly Savitar flickers a few times and disappears. Barry is hit by a taser and falls to the ground convulsing, and the fat kid from the monster episode stands over him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOugNisFgVo
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 01:17 |
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Aphrodite posted:With the help of Julian who he has freed from Savitar's control, Barry is able to finally corner the God of Speed.
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 01:44 |
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MiddleOne posted:Bad writing cannot fail, it can only be failed. YOU HAVE FAILED THIS BAD WRITING!
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 02:22 |
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The Caitlin thing is definitely a result of her having come face to face with her E-2 doppelganger and being completely terrified of what she can become if she's not careful with using her powers. Not that loving hard to tell guys.
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 04:23 |
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Yeah, for now I'm dismissing all the "her powers are changing her brain chemistry" as stupid things her loved ones (who are NOT biochemists) make up to try and excuse her behavior and in reality she was just having a bit of a mental break because she thought she was literally turning into her evil twin who she had met. That poo poo is kind of traumatic. A lot of the metahumans can be chalked up to people who lost their poo poo after gaining powers and Team Flash just didn't get to them until after they'd committed all their crimes. In Caitlin's case they were able to get through to her before she did something really bad. Now if the show decides to go full Silver Age and just say "her heart is turned cold by her powers" then I'll laugh when that happens. But for now I'm going with "metaphor" until proven otherwise. And yeah, Julian seems to be similarly conflicted. I'm fine with him being Alchemy because its basically what people were saying they should have just done with Jay/Hunter/Zoom and not try and turn it into some hugely emotional betrayal. Julian was always the top suspect for both story and meta reasons and now we know. Now the question is who Savitar is, what the connection between him and Julian is, and what Julian's full motivations are. Because I can definitely see anything from Julian being a slave to Savitar to Savitar being a delusion/construct of Julian's Alchemy powers and mental illness. Which could play right into the theme of "getting powers fucks with your head."
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 04:58 |
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I'm sure this murder will prevent me from becoming a bad guy.
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 05:04 |
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I too expect people experiencing psychotic breaks to behave rationally. Edit: And drat, Under the Dome and Dexter levels? Now we're saying things we can't take back. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Nov 26, 2016 |
# ? Nov 26, 2016 05:10 |
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Psychosomatic eye color change. it's a big problem. There's literally a visual cue for her bad guy moments.
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 05:17 |
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Aphrodite posted:Psychosomatic eye color change. it's a big problem. *eyes turn silver as I post this* You do not want to troll me. Now, or ever.
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 05:20 |
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Aphrodite posted:I'm sure this murder will prevent me from becoming a bad guy. Barry Allen sure seems to think so.
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 05:27 |
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Clearly this season is setting up a Saw/Flash crossover what with Alchemy being Jigsaw. Last year Zoom was Candyman.
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 07:23 |
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Medullah posted:Clearly this season is setting up a Saw/Flash crossover what with Alchemy being Jigsaw. Last year Zoom was Candyman. And the year before that, Reverse Flash wss Harrison Wells.
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# ? Nov 26, 2016 18:46 |
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The Lord Bude posted:Nah that's like a pleasant spring day. Warm enough that you can sleep comfortably with just a sheet, but not actually hot, so you aren't marinating in your own sweat and waking up choking, unable to breath with a raging headache. Spergatory posted:Likewise, how many times can a semi-trusted friend turn out to secretly be the bad guy? Everyone and their mother called this. The only hope for that storyline now is that Julian doesn't seem to be all that into it. Personally, I'm still holding out hope for a Jekyll/Hyde situation. shades of eternity posted:So when does snart return so leonard and kaitlyn can compete for the guiness book of records for the most ice related puns in one show? MiddleOne posted:The Killer Frost diatribe was the worst written villain turn I have ever seen. 8one6 posted:Post-Flashpoint do they still have Black Siren locked up in the no-lunch supermax?
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 12:43 |
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Can I ask when did Greg Grunberg get fat?
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 22:14 |
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spookygonk posted:Can I ask when did Greg Grunberg get fat? When he turned 13.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 00:13 |
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spookygonk posted:Can I ask when did Greg Grunberg get fat? Probably as a child.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 00:15 |
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He looked even fatter than normal, so I assume in the changed history caused by Flashpoint he never said no to those extra donuts.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 02:37 |
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In Heroes Reborn he was pretty chunky. Pretty sure he's just a goony neckbeard who lucked into a few roles and now he gets to be in every nerd movie and show he wants to be
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 02:44 |
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Medullah posted:In Heroes Reborn he was pretty chunky. Pretty sure he's just a goony neckbeard who lucked into a few roles and now he gets to be in every nerd movie and show he wants to be Its called being JJ Abrams friend
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 02:46 |
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Medullah posted:In Heroes Reborn he was pretty chunky. Pretty sure he's just a goony neckbeard who lucked into a few roles and now he gets to be in every nerd movie and show he wants to be While watching Star Trek Beyond I was pretty blown away by the scale of their new space station. Then it started talked and I realized it was Greg Grunberg.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 03:28 |
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Rhyno posted:While watching Star Trek Beyond I was pretty blown away by the scale of their new space station. Then it started talked and I realized it was Greg Grunberg. Grunberg to star as Unicron in next Transformers movie. No CGI required.
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