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quote:Fascist governments have used scapegoating as a means of distracting from their gradual impoverishing of the people in pursuit of their own enrichment and elevation.
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Trump likely just infuriated China with the US’s first call to Taiwan since 1979
Dammit Trump could you at least wait until you're sworn in before you trigger World War 3? 
quote: "Trump almost surely unaware of Taiwan-China sensitivities before taking President's call," Bremmer added. "They don't yet have Asia expertise on team."---------------These liberal geniuses just can't figure out Trump
1 posted on 12/02/2016 3:14:03 PM PST by mandaladon
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Glad he told the Chi-coms what’s what.
2 posted on 12/02/2016 3:15:16 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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Since Jimmah threw Taiwan under the bus.
3 posted on 12/02/2016 3:16:24 PM PST by Red Steel
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So America isn’t going to just roll over and play butt-boy from now on. Yeah, I won’t lose any sleep over this.
5 posted on 12/02/2016 3:17:15 PM PST by fhayek
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This is how China went from a third world rice paddy field to an economic powerhouse. The US bending over for cheap labor. China was nothing until we started buying their junk.
6 posted on 12/02/2016 3:17:35 PM PST by mandaladon (It's always good to be underestimated. ~Donald Trump)
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Disatermin? 
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30 years ago would have been who, Reagan?
Yep, 1986. We haven’t had a President since Reagan who was worth a d$@RMN.
11 posted on 12/02/2016 3:20:04 PM PST by politicianslie (What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? : Exactly what Hussein Obama is doing)
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Best he let China know early that they don’t make US foreign policy. About time they worried about pissing off their number one customer. Turn one container ship around and send it back full and their economy would die.
13 posted on 12/02/2016 3:20:59 PM PST by Oldexpat
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In the past we have always supported governments that are Democratic in nature.
Taiwan is one of these, and it's time to start letting Red China know we can get our dog toys made elsewhere.
14 posted on 12/02/2016 3:22:48 PM PST by Wizdum (Buckle up! It's going to be one hell of a ride.)
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Trump is telling the Chicoms that it won’t be business as usual, IMO.
16 posted on 12/02/2016 3:25:30 PM PST by lodi90 (President Trump - Has a nice ring to it!)
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More liberal dummies. Trump knew exactly what he was doing. He’s delivering a message to the Chicoms that the US is done putting up with their crap.
20 posted on 12/02/2016 3:28:14 PM PST by colorado tanker
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Who cares???
Taiwan is a friend and is deserving of a hello phone call from our president elect.
Really China?? Relax.
I will say that CNN is probably more upset about this than China is.
23 posted on 12/02/2016 3:30:22 PM PST by roostercogburn
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This is fantastic.
Can’t give Trump enough kudos.
If Trump can oversee the end of the ChiCom regime, he would be at Reagan level.
25 posted on 12/02/2016 3:31:16 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Hahahahahahahahaha!
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Good now if he can tell Russia and Putin to piss off the way he just did with China it’ll be the icing on the cake
34 posted on 12/02/2016 3:53:07 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade
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They’ve been playing the North Korea card with no repercussions for decades. Payback is a beyotch!
38 posted on 12/02/2016 4:10:29 PM PST by jackal7163 (If you are not willing to achieve victory at any cost, you are doomed to defeat!)
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"No really officer, she called me!"
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Trump just tweeted that it was Taiwan president that called HIM to congratulate him. (Not the other way around)
44 posted on 12/02/2016 4:45:27 PM PST by georgiegirl (Count me in the half that's in the Deplorable Basket)
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I just took a look at some of the stuff people are tweeting at him. A lot o lunatics in this country.
46 posted on 12/02/2016 4:49:50 PM PST by Stentor
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Trump is a private citizen UNTIL and ONLY until, the electoral college electors vote FOR him to be POTUS. Just sayin’ But I DO love the way the term President Elect is being applied, just as Soebarkah’s team quickly began to use the term, lo so many moons ago.
49 posted on 12/02/2016 5:28:44 PM PST by freepersup (A freeper behind every blade of grass.)
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Exactly. I can't tell if the MSM is being disingenuous when they express outrage at Trump's so-called "impulsive" tweets in the middle of the night.
Surely they must know that everything this guy does is planned multiple steps ahead. It may seem difficult to a pot-head drop out like BHO, but to any functioning intelligent person it's pretty straightforward.
Trump ran on, and is in the process of supporting (before he's even sworn in), the foundational premise of nationalism. Not just for the US, but every other nation state that desires self determination.
China can be a friend, a reliable trading partner with the US, but that doesn't mean the US won't continue to support countries that reflect our national interest.
To get back to the feigned outrage, I'm convinced it's just a ploy to appeal to a base and the directed advertisements targeted at people who oppose Trump for whatever particular reason.
55 posted on 12/02/2016 5:56:31 PM PST by semantic
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She called HIM.
71 posted on 12/02/2016 8:32:54 PM PST by madison10 (#NeverHillarystein attempting to disenfranchise this Michigander)
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Plus, SHE called HIM, so the press can just settle down. China’s pssd, but of one thing you can be sure — MOST world leaders RESPECT a president who is STRONG, which Trump is. They have gotten the message, LOUD AND CLEAR. After 8 years of the mealy mouth in chief circling the globe and telling the entire world how terrible (weak) we are, which I’m sure puzzled everyone from Putin to Abe, they now understand they have a REAL leader to deal with.
75 posted on 12/02/2016 10:12:28 PM PST by Flaming Conservative
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What the Hell is wrong with Sarah Palin?
quote:To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Maybe she found out that she didn’t get picked and she’s pissed.
3 posted on 12/02/2016 4:55:27 PM PST by tirednvirginia ( But help is on the way!)
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The debate of ideas goes on. It’s called “freedom of speech”.
Technically, Sarah Palin is right. In a perfect world, every company should get exactly the same treatment, there shouldn’t be any special tax deals for just one company.
But, it’s an imperfect world, and right now Trump is still, legally, just an ordinary citizen with few legislative powers. That’ll change on Jan. 20th, when he gets some tools that can change the situation for ALL companies – like reforming the inefficient tax code and rolling back oppressive regulations, which cost companies money.
But for now, he did what he could. Can’t do it this way for every company, obviously.
4 posted on 12/02/2016 4:55:46 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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Palin’s family is a train wreck.
She has a chance to do something now. I dont understand this unless she is hacked off about something going on behind the scenes.
6 posted on 12/02/2016 4:56:17 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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What did she say?
Aw hell, let's beat the hell out of her too...........That's what we're good at.
9 posted on 12/02/2016 4:58:00 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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O hell — she got jilted. She is menopause pissed. I like to self destruct when I get pissed. It makes me feel alive! If Trump can forget that Mormon socialist he can cool this down. She was a great campaign loyalist. CUT HER SOME SLACK!! Sarah!! , Im going to bitch slap you until you quit your hysteria!!SHUT THE F UP!!
10 posted on 12/02/2016 4:58:21 PM PST by WENDLE (Sanctuary cities are OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE!! That is a FELONY!! Ask Nixon!!)
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Well, maybe she didn't want your smelly old Cabinet post!
quote:To: canuck_conservative
In a perfect world, she would know math and realize that half a billion dollars of income will be taxed over 10 years, which is the basis for capitalism.
An owner sees things getting too expensive and either closes down or moves the company. The money that is lost is the salary of each and every employee.
Probably much more if you include other servicing the company will need.
We’re talking about what? 8 million over 5 years or something like that.
I’m not sure what makes everyone here think she WANTS a job in Washington. She leads the good life making speeches.
I dont blame here. She has a big family and wouldn’t be around them much if she were in DC.
But I also think she likes to hear herself talk sometimes.
15 posted on 12/02/2016 5:03:56 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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Ok
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Wherever she is coming from, I find discord intolerable. My friends used to say she hates all the fighting in Washington. I wrote her in as a lib. Someone had to stop the mess the libs were causing
But this is kookoo. Discord against trump. And I said it all along. On record.
In this case, of course the government is going to keep American courtroes solvent within the IS. Especially if it comes down to the IRS having burdened them, nafta agreements, EPA refs. All things the government caused to begin with
Paling is going after trump on business
Ok
17 posted on 12/02/2016 5:04:38 PM PST by stanne
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To be honest, there was a mix of carrots and sticks to push Carrier to make the right decision. Yes, Trump touted the likely reduction in regulatory burdens. Yes, the Pence’s allies in Indiana put together a few pork barrel tax incentives. But the big stick, lingering in the background, was the threat of loss of federal contracts. Carrier’s parent company United Technologies, depends of federal contracts for about a third of their revenues. They did not want to be on the naughty list of an incoming Trump administration.
Is that a bit unseemly? Yes. Do I want to see that happen all the time? No. Hopefully long term, the United States will again become a low-tax, low-regulation environment where there is little corruption and lots of transparency. If that happens, corporations will move work and jobs here naturally.
However, I don’t feel the least bit bad, after decades of corrupt government bargains and deals on behalf of elites and insiders, that the power of the Presidency was utilized on behalf of saving the jobs of 1000 workers, who had no insider connections.
If this is bullying, lets have more bullying.
19 posted on 12/02/2016 5:07:58 PM PST by CaptainMorgantown
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What she said was spot on.
She did not criticize Trump. The details of the conversation have not been released.
She said she hoped the deal would be for all companies (policy, law), and not just Carrier.
She’s right. I get the feeling that the Palin bashers here didn’t bother to read what she said.
Of course the MSM will spin it beyond recognition.
24 posted on 12/02/2016 5:18:28 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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American workers benefited from Trump's 'deal' with Carrier, not just Carrier. So, I'm okay with it.
TRUMP SET OUT TO SHOWCASE AN EXAMPLE OF HIS PRO-AMERICAN BUSINESS POSTURE! Palin should understand that the SYMBOLISM AND OPTIMISM of Trump's deal outweighs all here.. Trump said it could be done, then 0dunga said Trump couldn't do it. Then.. BOOM! Trump did it! BOOM!
WINNING!
29 posted on 12/02/2016 5:24:25 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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Um... are you sure you want to go there?
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Interesting resume. It appears, though, she does have slightly more experience that obama did before he ran for POTUS.
31 posted on 12/02/2016 5:26:58 PM PST by redfreedom (The nation has been saved. Thank you Dear Lord. Long live President Trump!)
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I like her in some ways, patriotism and attitude. But I’ve had to face up to it that she’s a dim bulb in some big ways.
38 posted on 12/02/2016 5:35:54 PM PST by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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Wait, maybe we should be reading the fine print on all these "deals."
quote:To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It seems like something Trump could and needs to respond to. What did this company get, or was promised? And would it be the same for every American company? If that is good, then they both will be satisfied. It is true we don’t want any solyndras.
40 posted on 12/02/2016 5:41:21 PM PST by Yaelle
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That’s exactly right!
She’s pretty, she’s charming, she’s a talker.
There’s times when I think those are her primary qualifications. Yes, I am a supporter, but her speaking out against Trump recently poured a huge bucket of ice water on that that support.
We have this guy called zero (obama, of course) and I compared her to obama in my last post. Now read my second line above. Some consider obama to be good looking, he is charming. And he definitely is a talker. They actually have quite a bit in common.
Point is: She has more in common with obama than she does with Trump, who is a proven success.
45 posted on 12/02/2016 5:49:45 PM PST by redfreedom (The nation has been saved. Thank you Dear Lord. Long live President Trump!)
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Exactly. She said what we should all stand for: a uniform tax/regulatory environment that’s favorable to business, not selective action, and that selective action sends the wrong message.
What’s controversial about this? The rats are the party that picks and chooses favorites to rise or fall. We try to bring everyone up, together. And that’s the message we need to send.
I had written more here but really it wasn’t as good as what Sarah wrote. Seriously, go read what she wrote. She’s spot on.
48 posted on 12/02/2016 6:24:25 PM PST by OldGuard1
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Her heart is always in the right place, but in this case she needs to realize that stopping the fiscal collapse of the US is job number one for Trump. We are so far down the toilet bowl economically that shock therapy is needed. Without that therapy, we will be Venezuela in 5-10 years, no matter who is President. We have 95 million US citizens out of work and hardly any of them wants to live in Mexico.
52 posted on 12/02/2016 6:30:15 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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The Hill piece is an outright lie.
Governor Palin did not “bash” PEOTUS; in fact she congratulated the people of Indiana over the deal.
Her concerns were about Big Government picking winners instead of letting the market sort it out. But she also expressed confidence in Mr. Trump.
This is another example of the MSM trying to stir up trouble.
65 posted on 12/02/2016 8:15:11 PM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The debate of ideas goes on. It’s called “freedom of speech”.
Technically, Sarah Palin is right. In a perfect world, every company should get exactly the same treatment, there shouldn’t be any special tax deals for just one company.
But, it’s an imperfect world, and right now Trump is still, legally, just an ordinary citizen with few legislative powers. That’ll change on Jan. 20th, when he gets some tools that can change the situation for ALL companies – like reforming the inefficient tax code and rolling back oppressive regulations, which cost companies money.
But for now, he did what he could. Can’t do it this way for every company, obviously.
4 posted on 12/02/2016 4:55:46 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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Remember 8 years ago when they were saying the president involved with any companies was facism/socialism/treason? But now it's a master stroke of presidential business perfection
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In a perfect world, she would know math and realize that half a billion dollars of income will be taxed over 10 years, which is the basis for capitalism.
An owner sees things getting too expensive and either closes down or moves the company. The money that is lost is the salary of each and every employee.
Probably much more if you include other servicing the company will need.
We’re talking about what? 8 million over 5 years or something like that.
I’m not sure what makes everyone here think she WANTS a job in Washington. She leads the good life making speeches.
I dont blame here. She has a big family and wouldn’t be around them much if she were in DC.
But I also think she likes to hear herself talk sometimes.
15 posted on 12/02/2016 5:03:56 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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This is a poo poo excuse because we heard from you guys how Trump's tax plan is supposed to be great for everyone.
The only way you're going to slow this overseas thing is to kill free trade. To stop it you need to bring the world up to your level. Maybe you guys should just sit back and realize the capitalism god you worship unquestioningly is not perfect
quote:To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It seems like something Trump could and needs to respond to. What did this company get, or was promised? And would it be the same for every American company? If that is good, then they both will be satisfied. It is true we don’t want any solyndras.
40 posted on 12/02/2016 5:41:21 PM PST by Yaelle
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Oh, precious snowflake here wants to know, huh? Big tax breaks. The government is essentially going to pay them to stay.
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Wait, that was an actual talking point? I thought it was just some weird fantasy world this one guy lived in but they were actually saying exactly that on Freep?
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Wait, that was an actual talking point? I thought it was just some weird fantasy world this one guy lived in but they were actually saying exactly that on Freep?
Same thing actually.
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Wait, that was an actual talking point? I thought it was just some weird fantasy world this one guy lived in but they were actually saying exactly that on Freep?
This is freep, where nothing is too stupid nor too silly to not be a talking point as long as it digs at some democrat. Remember their screech fest over Dijon mustard and Michelle having the audacity to change her clothes on a nine hour flight in Air force 1?
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The Taiwan thing is actually cool and good though so stopped clock I guess.
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Ford Open to Deals With Trump to Keep Jobs in U.S., CEO Says
Already lining up at the trough, I see.
quote: No huge Tax Breaks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 12/02/2016 7:24:31 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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I'll do you a favor and skip all the TrumpWinsAgain circlejerking.
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The article talks about more than tax breaks.
4 posted on 12/02/2016 7:27:20 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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I know I said no Tax Breaks!!!!!
No corporate crony-ism.
7 posted on 12/02/2016 7:29:27 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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Just abolish the EPA, ethanol and multiple gas standards in CA ....will keep Ford in the USA.
6 posted on 12/02/2016 7:27:59 PM PST by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth.)
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Trump has already talked about rolling back regulations that hurt businesses along with EPA regulations. This would be for all businesses.
13 posted on 12/02/2016 7:32:05 PM PST by Parley Baer
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Wait a minute...
quote:To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
No!! Now they all will threaten to leave because they want deals. Don’t give it to them.
16 posted on 12/02/2016 7:34:41 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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this is not merely the ART of the deal; its the PRACTICE of the deal. Something career pols like Muslim Hussein Islama Obama never heard of.
17 posted on 12/02/2016 7:35:37 PM PST by ErikJohnsky
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Here's the most important point:
One of our priorities is making sure fuel-economy standards reflect market realities
Keeping the currently legislated increased CAFE standards would kill Ford. Ford makes the big bucks on their gas guzzling trucks and SUVs. They make nothing on the econocrap cars like the Fiesta.
Trump should demand a bill abolishing CAFE be ready to sign his first day in office. Let the market, not the EPA, decide what Ford sells.
18 posted on 12/02/2016 7:35:46 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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Sounds like a corporate extortion gambit.
19 posted on 12/02/2016 7:37:46 PM PST by tomkat (alt right)
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...priorities is making sure fuel-economy standards reflect market realities...
So why didn't the auto makers push back on 55 mpg CAFE when Obunghole pushed them? The pubbies rolled over and caved on that, too, without a whimper as I recall. Now, with POTUS in their corner, they want CAFE to "reflect market reality" -- I.e., Americans want heavy, safe, powerful cars, NOT coffins on wheels.
20 posted on 12/02/2016 7:37:56 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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.. better to shitcan the entire ethanol fiasco thereby helping countless businesses and every single owner of an internal combustion engine in the nation.
21 posted on 12/02/2016 7:40:18 PM PST by tomkat (alt right)
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Haha they're still salty over Palin.
quote:To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Someone needs to ask Sarah Palin if this is also crony capitalism in her book.
25 posted on 12/02/2016 7:44:56 PM PST by Artcore (Trump 2016!)
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"NO HUGE TAX BREAKS!"
*25 posts later*
"Tax 'adjustments' are perfectly fine!"
quote:To: virgil
Read the article. They are not asking for tax deals for Ford. They are asking for tax adjustments for all corps and CAFE standards being eliminated. As a previous poster posted it is all about their truck biz where they make their money. They are essentially forced to make the teensy crap cars to meet fleet cafe standards.
It is a win win deal.
Carrier only got modest state tax breaks. I did the math for people on another thread last night. The net 10 year revenue without considering what it would have cost to pay unemployment, job retraining costs and loss of property taxes is over 6950000 to Indiana. So lots of costs vs splitting the difference. Trump strong armed UTX threating their 6 billion in gov contracts. He then let them save face.
Ford doesnt need face saving.
26 posted on 12/02/2016 7:44:58 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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Why am I not surprised that Freepers have no idea what a hybrid is?
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I don’t recall much resistance to that insane rule.
This rule is doing weird stuff to cars. I noticed today while walking through a crosswalk at a stoplight that, when the light turned green, several engines started up. Won’t be long before you are not able to buy a car that doesn’t promptly shut off at every stoplight. Cars now have automatic shutters in the air inlets that close at speed to improve aerodynamics. Looks like big repair bills coming up in five years.
31 posted on 12/02/2016 7:48:09 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Why am I not surprised that Freepers have no idea how economics work?
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I said Tax Breaks like Carrier got. Individual company tax breaks. Here we are talking about tax cuts for all corporations. And it is always the consumer. Tax breaks are the consumer subsidizing a single entity. Tax cuts cut all consumer costs.
33 posted on 12/02/2016 7:50:08 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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The press didn’t cover it because it didn’t match their narrative. All those automakers sent reps to testify before Congress and issued statements. Pretty much they got the same treatment as anyone who opposes the media narrative - ignored, lambasted, ridiculed, relegated to the back page if coverage is required. Those makers *were* desperately trying to stop it but since the media was controlling access...
And yes, those auto stop-start systems came over from Europe, but they have a reasonable decade-plus long record of reliability. They seem to be doing well over here as well.
The Administration plan was that people would shift over to the ‘clean diesels’ and electric cars that this regulation would force the market to make and purchase. VW torpedoed the first part and reality did for the second.
34 posted on 12/02/2016 7:55:53 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.d)
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This one hurt my head.
quote:To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Tax breaks are the consumer subsidizing a single entity.
What would be the additional tax burden on Indianans for 99 weeks of unemployment for 1,000 workers *plus* Carrier's current tax payments (which go to zero were they to go to Mexico) *plus* the loss of income tax payments from 1,000 now-unemployed workers?
Don't get down on Trump for making a phone call and saving 1,000 jobs! It's amazing he could do this at all -- he's not even president yet!
But Trump's stated policy is to reduce the corporate tax rate to 15% across the board. That makes us more competitive. However, as consumers ultimately pay the corporate tax, I've never understood why it is not ZERO.
35 posted on 12/02/2016 8:05:09 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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How many jobs has Ford already off shored? We shouldn’t reward them for that. I’m in favor of rolling out the red carpet for companies that build or expand operations in the U.S., but Ford doesn’t need any special deal. States and cities have been burned by these deals too. The most rewards should go to US startups, and companies that build, expand and hire Americans, not fat cat companies that threaten to leave. If Ford decides to repatriate jobs, then we’ll talk. Otherwise, why not help a new US company replace Ford as one of America’s premier automobile makers?
41 posted on 12/02/2016 8:37:03 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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Let the analysts figure out how much the COMBINED yearly taxes of all the workers is, as well as all the businesses in that town that will stay open, then make an informed decision on the size of tax breaks 
My BIL is a multi millionaire (and a cheapskate of epic proportions)
He made his fortune trading commodities and now buys and flips houses.
Travels a LOT of miles in a week.
Because of the new CRUSHING gasoline tax, he let 2 of 10 workers go. Is he a cheapskate? Yeah. Is it his business? Yeah.
45 posted on 12/02/2016 8:51:36 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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I read right here on FR that the $7 Million in Tax Incentives was offered by Indiana to Carrier BEFORE they made the decision to move.
They didn’t do the deal then.
49 posted on 12/02/2016 10:08:41 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (One Man's Mainstream Media is another Man's Ministry of Propoganda.)
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These companies can try to bargain but consumers will not like it that they need to be bribed to offer jobs to Americans when they are about to enjoy lower tax rates and less regulations regardless.
52 posted on 12/03/2016 12:32:50 AM PST by Crucial
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I said Tax Breaks like Carrier got. Individual company tax breaks. Here we are talking about tax cuts for all corporations. And it is always the consumer. Tax breaks are the consumer subsidizing a single entity. Tax cuts cut all consumer costs.
Since when should the government be in the business of taxing the life blood out of everyone in the first place.
Those *tax breaks* are not some favor the government is showing companies and individuals. Those taxes should never have been put in place in the first place.
Besides, WE'RE the ones paying the taxes. The companies aren't. They just pass the tax costs down along to the rest of us.
55 posted on 12/03/2016 4:32:37 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Why not? Carrier got them. It’s Christmas time for CEOS, next it will be jobs created or saved. But I wonder if that is before trumps trillion dollar stimulus. Crony capitalism, it just comes natural. I wonder if the millions in taxpayer dollars is a one time thing or the gift that keeps on giving. Even if the tax break was 1million dollars for one thousand jobs, that’s 100,000 per job, likely per year. Paid to play. This mathematical ignorance drives me crazy and I knew he would propose this kind of Obama jobs program, plus a trillion dollar stimulus. I see no diff from he and Obama on these items, yay.
56 posted on 12/03/2016 4:57:11 AM PST by momincombatboots (Pray for Sky, 20, two gunshots to abdomen, college student, hostess, easy prey n transformed US)
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I think you'll find that companies are people, FRiend.
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use of the word cronyism indicates ignorance of business
Business is done by people, not companies
58 posted on 12/03/2016 5:03:27 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Does America still have lots of safe closets?)
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Sounds like a corporate extortion gambit.
Opening move in a negotiation. Ford CEO made the opening move. Our soon-to-be President has no obligation to negotiate on Ford's terms -- or to negotiate at all. Ford's CEO is not dealing from a position of strength. If he thinks President Trump can be rolled, he'd better think again.
63 posted on 12/03/2016 5:58:38 AM PST by Avalon Memories (Deplorables of the world, unite!)
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My daughter bought a new Chevy (against my advice) car. Less than a week later she was rear ended while sitting at a red light and from the pics it didn't look that bad. Now after the insurance company paid $13,000 trying to fix an $18,000 car,it's junk.
The hood has a 1" gap on one side and the windshield looks ready to pop out. When you get behind it going down the road it doesn't track straight and she hasn't made the first payment. That's CAFE standards at work.
69 posted on 12/03/2016 8:16:55 AM PST by SanchoP
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A lot of mpg nazis shut their car off so save that tiny precious amount of gasoline.
Awhile back there was a blurb on the news about why that's not a good idea........apparently in many vehicles (according to the news) much of the safety mechanisms (airbags and such) don't work when the engine is off.
That aside, if your vehicle is off, there's no time to move it another out of control vehicle comes toward you.
70 posted on 12/03/2016 8:54:09 AM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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Look at the newssource; they are NOT deals.
They are explaining how his policies will benefit business.
Take the language back and don’t let the MSM steal the language.
Trump camp, Tweet the real story.
Palin, please don’t misunderstand again; pick up the phone and call the Trump camp if you need clarity, it doesn’t help to look uninformed.
71 posted on 12/03/2016 11:52:17 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Don't stop until all are in jail. Drain the swamp. Build the wall.)
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Yeah, pissing off a foreign trade nation which our economy is tied to is really a good idea because some men just want to watch the world burn, I guess.
And the nutjob response that "Jhyna" can just go pound rice is not helping
No huge Tax Breaks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 12/02/2016 7:24:31 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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"Unless Trump agrees to it in which case I will slobber his knob anyways!"
I wonder if any of them have brains enough to realize this is what happens.
quote:To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Here's the most important point:
One of our priorities is making sure fuel-economy standards reflect market realities
Keeping the currently legislated increased CAFE standards would kill Ford. Ford makes the big bucks on their gas guzzling trucks and SUVs. They make nothing on the econocrap cars like the Fiesta.
Trump should demand a bill abolishing CAFE be ready to sign his first day in office. Let the market, not the EPA, decide what Ford sells.
18 posted on 12/02/2016 7:35:46 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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Because I for one love having to spend 80 bucks to gas up a vehicle to go to the next town over for groceries
gently caress these assholes. You wanna go out and penis flash with your truck that eats a quarter tank just revving the engine once, go ahead, but don't demand everyone else has to do the same
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Read the article. They are not asking for tax deals for Ford. They are asking for tax adjustments for all corps and CAFE standards being eliminated. As a previous poster posted it is all about their truck biz where they make their money. They are essentially forced to make the teensy crap cars to meet fleet cafe standards.
It is a win win deal.
Carrier only got modest state tax breaks. I did the math for people on another thread last night. The net 10 year revenue without considering what it would have cost to pay unemployment, job retraining costs and loss of property taxes is over 6950000 to Indiana. So lots of costs vs splitting the difference. Trump strong armed UTX threating their 6 billion in gov contracts. He then let them save face.
Ford doesnt need face saving.
26 posted on 12/02/2016 7:44:58 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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"No, you see guys, if we let Ford go back to doing what they were to fail when Obummer was handing out bailouts they'll totally not end up in that same spot again."
Lol at more of the 67 dimension Trump chess game though. Trump hosed himself and these idiots are so desperate to find excuses
quote: Cars now have automatic shutters in the air inlets that close at speed to improve aerodynamics
What it really is are shutters mounted in the grill which close at highway speeds to reduce drag because your engine compartment is normally taking in a large excess of air it doesn't need. In pretty much every vehicle this has nothing to do with the engine intake as that is fed from a small area off to the side that is designed to prevent air from blasting through the system. But whatever
SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Dec 4, 2016
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So that guy's daughter bought a car, got rear-ended, spent a ton of money in repair costs, and it's still messed up.
Somehow, this is CAFE's fault.
It is kind of nice to see Freep turning on Palin even more. It seems like every time she says something a few more of them start to realize what a massive idiot she is.
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So this Freeper believes that Obama was the first person to be referred to as "President Elect" in the history of the country, and that it was only because he told people to refer to him this way, because he is arrogant. And that now people referring to Trump as President Elect is some sort of passive aggressive attack against Obama.
The loving world these people live in. 
My idiot boss would not stop harping on and on about how the news kept referring to Hillary as "Secretary Clinton" because "she's not Secretary anymore so they shouldn't use that title and they're trying to trick people". Pointing out that it is de rigueur to refer to a person by their highest title was rejected with "no it's not!" screeched higher and higher. Also did you know that no President ever campaigned for nominee before Obama?
I swear to Christ I'd like to THINK that harping on this random stuff that's been the norm for 50-60-70 years or, better yet, the entirety of the office, would lead to an awakening as to the fact that every president does this stuff but, in reality, Obama was the first to do all this bad stuff ever and Trump is just giving them a taste of their own medicine! Or, you know, oh it's no big deal now no I didn't make a big deal out of it before how dare you imply that I'm so ignorant *covers up "THREE FULL TIME CALLIGRAPOHERS IN THE WHOITE HOUSE THANK OBAMA!!!!!!" tattoo.*
It's been eight years of "DID YOU SEE HOW EXPENSIVE MOOCHELLE'S DRESS IS??" and now it'll be eight years of "Oh they were probably donated to Ivanka because designers want their clothes to be seen on the first lady it's not a big deal."
God we're all hosed.
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Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
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My idiot boss would not stop harping on and on about how the news kept referring to Hillary as "Secretary Clinton" because "she's not Secretary anymore so they shouldn't use that title and they're trying to trick people". Pointing out that it is de rigueur to refer to a person by their highest title was rejected with "no it's not!" screeched higher and higher. Also did you know that no President ever campaigned for nominee before Obama?
I swear to Christ I'd like to THINK that harping on this random stuff that's been the norm for 50-60-70 years or, better yet, the entirety of the office, would lead to an awakening as to the fact that every president does this stuff but, in reality, Obama was the first to do all this bad stuff ever and Trump is just giving them a taste of their own medicine! Or, you know, oh it's no big deal now no I didn't make a big deal out of it before how dare you imply that I'm so ignorant *covers up "THREE FULL TIME CALLIGRAPOHERS IN THE WHOITE HOUSE THANK OBAMA!!!!!!" tattoo.*
It's been eight years of "DID YOU SEE HOW EXPENSIVE MOOCHELLE'S DRESS IS??" and now it'll be eight years of "Oh they were probably donated to Ivanka because designers want their clothes to be seen on the first lady it's not a big deal."
God we're all hosed.
The funny thing is that Obama could take all this mockery and Trump can't. He just has to waste time insulting people instead of doing his job. Now that Jill Stein is doing her own form of birtherism, I wonder how Trump will react in the long run when she is still claiming this years out and is brought up on MSM to do so, like Trump was with birtherism.
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It's been eight years of "DID YOU SEE HOW EXPENSIVE MOOCHELLE'S DRESS IS??" and now it'll be eight years of "Oh they were probably donated to Ivanka because designers want their clothes to be seen on the first lady it's not a big deal."
Don't know if this was on purpose, but nice either way.
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Yeah, pissing off a foreign trade nation which our economy is tied to is really a good idea because some men just want to watch the world burn, I guess.
And the nutjob response that "Jhyna" can just go pound rice is not helping
"Unless Trump agrees to it in which case I will slobber his knob anyways!"
I wonder if any of them have brains enough to realize this is what happens.
Because I for one love having to spend 80 bucks to gas up a vehicle to go to the next town over for groceries
gently caress these assholes. You wanna go out and penis flash with your truck that eats a quarter tank just revving the engine once, go ahead, but don't demand everyone else has to do the same
"No, you see guys, if we let Ford go back to doing what they were to fail when Obummer was handing out bailouts they'll totally not end up in that same spot again."
Lol at more of the 67 dimension Trump chess game though. Trump hosed himself and these idiots are so desperate to find excuses
The higher an engine revs, the more air it requires. How your "shutter" system sounds to work it makes it impossible for the engine to fire right meaning it's wasting fuel (running rich)
What it really is are shutters mounted in the grill which close at highway speeds to reduce drag because your engine compartment is normally taking in a large excess of air it doesn't need. In pretty much every vehicle this has nothing to do with the engine intake as that is fed from a small area off to the side that is designed to prevent air from blasting through the system. But whatever
I deal with this kind of idiocy every day at work from prime freeper candidates. A modern fuel injected engine has no issue with ethanol, only shitboxes from the 80's-early 90's are likely to have issues with ethanol that an easy to install $250 in parts wouldn't fix. And the air intake pulls air from those locations because its colder than air on top of a motor like an old school carb'd engine would be sucking. Colder air is denser allowing for more powah to be made.
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Let the analysts figure out how much the COMBINED yearly taxes of all the workers is, as well as all the businesses in that town that will stay open, then make an informed decision on the size of tax breaks
My BIL is a multi millionaire (and a cheapskate of epic proportions)
He made his fortune trading commodities and now buys and flips houses.
Travels a LOT of miles in a week.
Because of the new CRUSHING gasoline tax, he let 2 of 10 workers go. Is he a cheapskate? Yeah. Is it his business? Yeah.
45 posted on 12/02/2016 8:51:36 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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Between this post and his tagline, this guy really, really hates in brother in law it seems.
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This Taiwan call is definitely making it clear how much many of y'all actually believe the talk about "supporting democracy".
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This Taiwan call is definitely making it clear how much many of y'all actually believe the talk about "supporting democracy".
The question is do you really believe Trump is a brilliant chess master, and just such a wonderful guy that he's going to stand up for democracy in the face of China? Or is it more likely he's just an idiot who didn't think through the repercussions of his actions?
But this is the Freep thread and we should instead read horrible things, such as their responses to In Mr. Pence’s New D.C. Neighborhood, Not Exactly The Welcome Wagon [Rainbow Flags Greeting] in which Mike Pence's new temporary neighbors are hanging up rainbow flags on their homes while he's staying there.
Oh hey, it's the guy who greenlit Iron Man and hires liberals apparently purely so he can fire them every other year.
quote:It wont bother him. The filthy faggots thought that he was a Christian business that can easily be sued and pushed around.
5 posted on 12/3/2016, 10:35:21 PM by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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This guy's tagline is why we will never stop hearing about Hillary or Soros even after they die.
quote:The left seems to think the sight of rainbow flags in his temporary neighborhood is going to be a nightmare for Pence. I am sure he could care less. It’s not like he didn’t know where he was going to be living UNTIL HE ASCENDS TO THE SECOND MOST POWERFUL POSITION ON EARTH.
11 posted on 12/3/2016, 10:37:41 PM by Artemis Webb (Ted Kennedy burns in hell.)
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quote:He should hang an AIDS quilt from his porch
12 posted on 12/3/2016, 10:37:42 PM by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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quote:He should hang an AIDS quilt from his porch
Or maybe send his new neighbors small pox blankets. LOL
50 posted on 12/3/2016, 11:57:34 PM by ladyjane
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quote:Most of the homeowners who ran out to buy the flags or ordered them online are straight.
If that is what you call someone who has never worked an honest day in their lives.
28 posted on 12/3/2016, 10:59:46 PM by AndyJackson
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gays = poop
quote:Chevy Chase must be so proud of its progressive tolerance, because nothing signals refinement quite like feces on a penis.
35 posted on 12/3/2016, 11:16:43 PM by Always A Marine
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Can't have a thread about gays without savagesusie showing up.
quote:Absolutely and it is irrational (evil) to “protect” the stupid term “sexual orientation” when it can mean anything from pederasty to pedophilia to bestiality.
Marxists remove reason and logic from Right Reason (Just Law) when they destroy the language and meaning of words, to destroy Western Civilization and make everything meaningless and women into men, (radical egalitarianism) which defies Reason and Science (Just Law has to be reasoned and based on the Laws of Nature and nature’s God (God’s Laws), not some abused person’s sick desires/lusts.
There is no special “protection” for people who are irrational and mentally ill and use their bodies in dysfunctional, degrading ways that defy Science and Reality and Health codes. They need to be locked up or at least in a counseling program.
41 posted on 12/3/2016, 11:36:45 PM by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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No we're not Nazis why would you think that?
quote:They might want to fumigate the place in more ways than one.
45 posted on 12/3/2016, 11:51:40 PM by Fester Chugabrew (Lock. Them. Up.)
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The article says that this house Pence is moving into is temporary, until Biden finishes moving out of the Naval Observatory (the official home of the VP). But Freep can't be bothered with things like knowing facts or reading articles.
quote:Yet another fake news story. The naval observatory has no visible neighbors. None. Zero.
32 posted on 12/3/2016, 11:12:18 PM by BlueCat
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quote:FR protests to get interlopers outta Cheny’s house made me do a circumnavigation back in the day. You are totally correct.
39 posted on 12/3/2016, 11:27:49 PM by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
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Unless it was a state dinner or something, didn't Michelle usually make it a point to wear something that cost under $100?
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The question is do you really believe Trump is a brilliant chess master, and just such a wonderful guy that he's going to stand up for democracy in the face of China? Or is it more likely he's just an idiot who didn't think through the repercussions of his actions?
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Those are certainly related questions, but the question I was addressing was how many so-called leftists and supporters of freedom and democracy and human rights are willing to sell us out to preemptively get pissy on behalf of an abusive dictatorship. The answer is apparently "drat near all".
Oh, come on. You can't just randomly spout off about "democracy and freedom and human rights" if it's going to piss off the biggest country in the world. These things are delicate, and it's not a sell-out to acknowledge that.
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My idiot boss would not stop harping on and on about how the news kept referring to Hillary as "Secretary Clinton" because "she's not Secretary anymore so they shouldn't use that title and they're trying to trick people". Pointing out that it is de rigueur to refer to a person by their highest title was rejected with "no it's not!" screeched higher and higher. Also did you know that no President ever campaigned for nominee before Obama?
I swear to Christ I'd like to THINK that harping on this random stuff that's been the norm for 50-60-70 years or, better yet, the entirety of the office, would lead to an awakening as to the fact that every president does this stuff but, in reality, Obama was the first to do all this bad stuff ever and Trump is just giving them a taste of their own medicine! Or, you know, oh it's no big deal now no I didn't make a big deal out of it before how dare you imply that I'm so ignorant *covers up "THREE FULL TIME CALLIGRAPOHERS IN THE WHOITE HOUSE THANK OBAMA!!!!!!" tattoo.*
It's been eight years of "DID YOU SEE HOW EXPENSIVE MOOCHELLE'S DRESS IS??" and now it'll be eight years of "Oh they were probably donated to Ivanka because designers want their clothes to be seen on the first lady it's not a big deal."
God we're all hosed.
Unfortunately we have a lot of loving retarded people that can vote, as this election shows. If anything it's evidence that public schooling needs to be better funded and improved on.
Well, to everyone except the crazy assholes that think if something isn't perfect you scrap the whole thing. And I blame religion for that
Between this post and his tagline, this guy really, really hates in brother in law it seems.
That guy's tag line
And yet he voted for every Republican since he was legal
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Those are certainly related questions, but the question I was addressing was how many so-called leftists and supporters of freedom and democracy and human rights are willing to sell us out to preemptively get pissy on behalf of an abusive dictatorship. The answer is apparently "drat near all".
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My idiot boss would not stop harping on and on about how the news kept referring to Hillary as "Secretary Clinton" because "she's not Secretary anymore so they shouldn't use that title and they're trying to trick people". Pointing out that it is de rigueur to refer to a person by their highest title was rejected with "no it's not!" screeched higher and higher.
This is insane. Even if they watch only Fox News all the time, they can clearly see that even their GOP heroes who have long been out of office are ALWAYS referred to by their previous higher title. GOVERNOR (Jeb) Bush. SPEAKER Gingrich. GOVERNOR Romney. You have to be extremely and willfully obtuse to say or think like this.
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This is insane. Even if they watch only Fox News all the time, they can clearly see that even their GOP heroes who have long been out of office are ALWAYS referred to by their previous higher title. GOVERNOR (Jeb) Bush. SPEAKER Gingrich. GOVERNOR Romney. You have to be extremely and willfully obtuse to say or think like this.
When it comes to politics people's memories shut down completely. Generally they really honestly never noticed before but now that someone just shows up and goes "HEY EVER NOTICE THAT..." they take it as fact because, well, they never noticed.
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Oh, come on. You can't just randomly spout off about "democracy and freedom and human rights" if it's going to piss off the biggest country in the world. These things are delicate, and it's not a sell-out to acknowledge that.
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Dec 4, 2016 17:50
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- Captain_Maclaine
- Sep 30, 2001
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Spite makes for long memories.
It's all they have left.
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Dec 4, 2016 18:01
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- SocketWrench
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by Fritz the Horse
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For some of us, the "Taiwan problem" isn't just a hypothetical we can pretend to care about every few years.
So let's turn the whole area upside down instead...that's smart
I guess everyone will have to add an asterisk to their Taiwan just for you that states what they feel so you know they're always feeling that way instead of just now and then
Just because you like the snow swirling in a snowglobe doesn't mean you shove it in a paint shaker
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Dec 4, 2016 18:09
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- Geostomp
- Oct 22, 2008
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Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
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When it comes to politics people's memories shut down completely. Generally they really honestly never noticed before but now that someone just shows up and goes "HEY EVER NOTICE THAT..." they take it as fact because, well, they never noticed.
These are people who have been long trained to ignore any facts that could possibly interfere with their rigid worldviews. Anyone independent enough to think critically about something that would dare question their narrative is either beaten into line or cast out. No, they cannot notice something like that and hate anyone who would.
Unfortunately we have a lot of loving retarded people that can vote, as this election shows. If anything it's evidence that public schooling needs to be better funded and improved on.
Well, to everyone except the crazy assholes that think if something isn't perfect you scrap the whole thing. And I blame religion for that
That guy's tag line
And yet he voted for every Republican since he was legal
Given the robber barons, anti-intelligence bastards, and bigots Cheeto Benito is appointing without any real opposition I doubt that improvement in public education is coming for at least 30 years. If anything has been proven, the only hope for lasting improvement is that white people stop being the majority all too soon. If not, then the republicans will always be able to convince them to slit their own throats so long as they promise to hurt minorities even more.
Geostomp fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Dec 4, 2016
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Dec 4, 2016 18:11
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- Twelve by Pies
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Again a very likpatous story
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For some of us, the "Taiwan problem" isn't just a hypothetical we can pretend to care about every few years.
You know what would be incredibly awesome on a moral level? If Trump said "Israel is an apartheid state, and we will not support them until they no longer abuse Palestinians." It would be fantastic.
Do you know what kind of chaos that would cause if he actually said that?
Given the robber barons, anti-intelligence bastards, and bigots Cheeto Benito is appointing without any real opposition I doubt that improvement in public education is coming for at least 30 years.
You're more optimistic than I am. Honestly, I think even if we do improve public education, it doesn't matter. The authoritarian mindset of these kinds of people is going to influence their kids. Some of the kids escape from it, but there's plenty who don't. I knew a few people in college who were taking biology who said "Evolution is a lie, so when they ask us about it on the test, I'll just say 'I have been taught to say' so it's clear that I know it isn't true." Fixing the school only goes so far when you have kids that go home to parents that say "It doesn't matter what they taught you in that building, global warming is a lie."
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Dec 4, 2016 18:40
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- Twelve by Pies
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Again a very likpatous story
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quote:These generic “this holiday, buy...” commercials make me hate their generic season with a passion. I remember the Christmases of boyhood when even Dennis the Menace comic books dedicated their entire issue to Christmas in Bethlehem.
I absolutely hate “holiday.” It’s a profanity to me.
11 posted on 12/4/2016, 1:11:26 PM by Luke21
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Holiday comes from "holy day" you loving ding dong.
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