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Boiled Water posted:why bother calculating anything when I'm gagging about looking at numbers and immediately close the workbook again? it just strikes as weird since if I were to scroll around in a word document it doesn't prompt me for saving all that scrolling activity I don't know exactly, but it's almost certainly a horror
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i mean, i think the suggested behavior (don't ask about saving if the document is the same as it is on disk) makes some sense, but, like, if you grab your modern as all hell text editor, remove a word, retype it, and try to close, will it actually not ask about saving? most programs do for excel/word, which have a very complex document model, where even documents which look precisely the same will have different byte representations (due to stuff getting generated id's and possibly being in an arbitrary order etc.), it becomes a huge programming task to carry the idea out to completion, and the half-measures don't really seem valuable enough to invest in if some cases will still never work
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also like anyone actually knows enough about excels backend these days to actually modify it. the ribbon is probably just hack on top of core code that hasn't effectively changed since the 80s
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please pardon my ignorance on the subject but arent document or even picture files sort of 'linear' compared to spreadsheets, in terms of interdependent data within a file? if you make a change to a spreadsheet and then want the sheet to update, if its not saving to disk it would be making another copy* of the file in memory, right? so then maybe each change put in the undo buffer would need another entire copy of the spreadsheet, vs. a word processor or mspaint needing to only keep the actions themselves in the undo buffer? * ed: or at least an unknown-sized portion crusader_complex fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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crusader_complex posted:please pardon my ignorance on the subject but if the undo stack is empty it should be the original document
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hobbesmaster posted:if the undo stack is empty it should be the original document
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qirex posted:probably the same minds who brought you "deleted emails in outlook need to show an unread count in the trash can" this makes sense cause people delete email without reading it by accident all the time
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also, people use trash as a storage folder
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duTrieux. posted:also, people use trash as a storage folder but enough about your mother's uterus
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duTrieux. posted:also, people use trash as a storage folder yeah this was pretty lol when we hired outlook people back when we had notes. they would put stuff in their trash and then notes would delete it 2 days later and then they'd freak out.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:similarly if you do the exact same thing in MS Word or Paint it will not ask you to save open a word doc do nothing other than print it it will ask to save changes when you close it
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excel also saves the current cursor position
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windows still turns every wallpaper image into a super compressed jpeg and it's the most annoying little thing
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Please don't insult TranscodedWallpaper.jpg. Thanks.
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qirex posted:probably the same minds who brought you "deleted emails in outlook need to show an unread count in the trash can" it's still really annoying to me that responding to an event invitation doesn't count as reading it as far as the trash can is concerned i'm one of those ocd neat freaks that can't stand having unread messages anywhere so that drives me up the wall
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Rex-Goliath posted:it's still really annoying to me that responding to an event invitation doesn't count as reading it as far as the trash can is concerned I currently have 18k+ unread emails
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Shaggar posted:this makes sense cause people delete email without reading it by accident all the time things that fall under that umbrella according to outlook: meeting requests you've responded to emails you started writing but then decided to cancel and not save a draft but the window was open long enough so it autosaved one anyway things you've marked as junk and deleted
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Chris Knight posted:open a word doc lmao. What the hell
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carry on then posted:windows still turns every wallpaper image into a super compressed jpeg and it's the most annoying little thing wait, what? Windows doesn't just render the image you give it, windows actually transcodes the image? who the gently caress thought that was a good idea, even loving Mac OS 8 didn't do that
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:lmao. What the hell it added a print settings record to the document state and decided that means the state is dirty I can see how these things come about but man, it's lovely that this wasn't fixed for, like, Word 4 in 1990, much less today (Word 4.0d for Macintosh was best word)
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eschaton posted:wait, what? It only does this as part of theme integration, but yeah, it's dumb as hell. It takes a copy of the image, transcodes it, and puts it in the User's profile under AppData.
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:It only does this as part of theme integration, but yeah, it's dumb as hell. im sure theres an article by coffee mug guy about how to replace the transcoded image with the original
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Rex-Goliath posted:it's still really annoying to me that responding to an event invitation doesn't count as reading it as far as the trash can is concerned
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eschaton posted:wait, what? it is new. you get the same background image etc. on every computer where you log in with the same microsoft account (along with a bunch of similar personalizations). i would guess that they do the transcode to put some kind of bound on how much space and bandwidth that would use up
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:I currently have 18k+ unread emails roughly similar for me
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The best word was perfect 5.1
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it is new. you get the same background image etc. on every computer where you log in with the same microsoft account (along with a bunch of similar personalizations). i would guess that they do the transcode to put some kind of bound on how much space and bandwidth that would use up argh then why lossy compress it? anyway, solid black is the correct desktop background
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Rex-Goliath posted:it's still really annoying to me that responding to an event invitation doesn't count as reading it as far as the trash can is concerned oh that's why i always have unread messages in my trash.
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Granite Octopus posted:argh then why lossy compress it? anyway, solid black is the correct desktop background imo use a second monitor to display desktop backgrounds
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:I currently have 18k+ unread emails disgusting
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Granite Octopus posted:argh then why lossy compress it? anyway, solid black is the correct desktop background teal or bust
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carry on then posted:windows still turns every wallpaper image into a super compressed jpeg and it's the most annoying little thing 
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i literally never see my wallpaper but it would piss me off so much if every glimpse was tumblr-compressed is that some pre-2k legacy or something? why compress it at all
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the real way to fix it is to buy a high-dpi screen and then you don't even notice the jpeg compression i tried the registry hack trick, but it doesn't seem to work in win 10 for me
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Phoenixan posted:the real way to fix it is to buy a high-dpi screen and then you don't even notice the jpeg compression it's noticeable on my rmbp under bootcamp the best workaround is to open the image in firefox and set the background from there, since i guess firefox overwrites transcodedwallpaper.jpg directly or something???
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qirex posted:probably the same minds who brought you "deleted emails in outlook need to show an unread count in the trash can" The same mind who brought you "ctrl+F to find something in an email? gently caress you"
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Millstone posted:The same mind who brought you "ctrl+F to find something in an email? gently caress you" well, outlook is kind of an old software, so i'm fairly certain that person was hitler.
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Wheany posted:well, outlook is kind of an old software, so i'm fairly certain that person was hitler.
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Lord Des Browne, a former U.K. Minister of Defense, is concerned that even ballistic-missile submarines may be compromised by malware. Browne is now the vice-chairman of the Nuclear Threat Initiative, a nonprofit seeking to reduce the danger posed by weapons of mass destruction, where he heads a task force examining the risk of cyberattacks on nuclear command-and-control systems. Browne thinks that the cyber threat is being cavalierly dismissed by many in power. The Royal Navy’s decision to save money by using Windows for Submarines, a version of Windows XP, as the operating system for its ballistic-missile subs seems especially shortsighted. Windows XP was discontinued six years ago, and Microsoft warned that any computer running it after April, 2014, “should not be considered protected as there will be no security updates.” Each of the U.K. subs has eight missiles carrying a total of forty nuclear weapons. “It is shocking to think that my home computer is probably running a newer version of Windows than the U.K.’s military submarines,” Brown said.
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