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Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
https://mega.nz/#F!ZR4wUJrC!MyD46Z53t3ZS3gCkzdzsCw

Patch music, courtesy of Sarnai from the goon LS over on Balmung.

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SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST

Argas posted:

Another episode of The Fall and Rise of FFXIV is up. This time, crafting and gathering in 1.x. Jesus christ.

This is a really insightful series. I love the stuff that changes with patches. That whole sequence of events from what is now the opening cutscene to 2.0 is really awesome.

Looking at the comments though (shame on me, I know), how are there people that prefer 1.x to what we have now? And why do people say Heavensward is a disappointment?

Skaw
Aug 5, 2004

SonicRulez posted:

This is a really insightful series. I love the stuff that changes with patches. That whole sequence of events from what is now the opening cutscene to 2.0 is really awesome.

Looking at the comments though (shame on me, I know), how are there people that prefer 1.x to what we have now? And why do people say Heavensward is a disappointment?

A lot of people wanted FF11-2, instead of a game that would both be fun and make Square-Enix money.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames

SonicRulez posted:

This is a really insightful series. I love the stuff that changes with patches. That whole sequence of events from what is now the opening cutscene to 2.0 is really awesome.

Looking at the comments though (shame on me, I know), how are there people that prefer 1.x to what we have now? And why do people say Heavensward is a disappointment?

They're stupid.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


I don't see Dancing Mad hidden in there :mad:

But a version of Answers is probably bad news re: whatever is getting summoned in the trailer.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

SonicRulez posted:

Looking at the comments though (shame on me, I know), how are there people that prefer 1.x to what we have now? And why do people say Heavensward is a disappointment?

They're a loud, solipsistic minority.

*edit, re: music - so glad that Quicksand is in this patch. Looks like the version of Answers is the same that was in The Rising a while back. Rad.

isk fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jan 17, 2017

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

unseenlibrarian posted:

It's not like Doma or what's left of it isn't part of the empire, so a Garlean dungeon would be a good time to introduce a samurai fight.

In fact, we know that the Garleans won over at least one ninja clan head and that even with his passing they still employ a number of ninja as part of the Frumentarii (basically their military intelligence division) so it's quite believable that the recruited some ronin or whatever from Doma and Hingashi in the decades since the conquest of Othard as a whole.

Countblanc posted:

RIP blue mage

They'll probably make it work someday, though I have no idea how.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
For the lore nerds:



edit: Relics models found, no textures yet. But there is this:



For that sick grunge rocker glamour, I guess?

SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Jan 17, 2017

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Thundarr posted:

I don't see Dancing Mad hidden in there :mad:

But a version of Answers is probably bad news re: whatever is getting summoned in the trailer.

That's both the same version that is used for the anniversaries and also a more cohesive version of the music that played at the very end of 1.0, overriding the zone music.

So prepare your butts.


SwissArmyDruid posted:

For the lore nerds:



This makes me chuckle a little bit because I can't help but think that, at some point, the EN lore team had to have the same chat with their JP team that we did with EGS, all those years ago now, about making sure that there was a separate column for the loving plurals in the English files. :v:

Also, boo, nobody gets a playable version of Ascalon. :smith:

edit:

SwissArmyDruid posted:

edit: Relics models found, no textures yet. But there is this:



For that sick grunge rocker glamour, I guess?

This outfit was briefly shown off in the trailer, in fact! It seems to be the simple glamour piece for this patch.

ilifinicus
Mar 7, 2004

Lemon King posted:


Samurai Job files found. Not sure if it was already posted.

FYI these files are job quest cutscene and quest dialogue script files that determines your interaction from quest start to quest end, per level. There's other jobs' quests in the files like this all empty and just-preallocated for Stormblood, all formatted the same way, all indicating that job quests are going to be at 60, 63, 65, 68 and 70 for Stormblood.

There's also 260 or so new FATEs, a new identifier for where a quest stops your from progressing based on your expansion unlock level (0 for ARR, 1 for HW, 2 for ... stormblood, obviously!)

new emotes:
/dote - blows a kiss, acquisition :iiam: for now
/playdead - plays dead, from an emote book, presumed Garo or MGP or MogStation
/spectacles - adjusts glasses, scholasticate
/backflip - from MSQ
/songbird - continuation of last year's idol event for Hinamatsuri, this time you sing and play music and dance like the Songbirds
/moonlift - all HW beast tribes thingie

Note Block
May 14, 2007

nothing could fit so perfectly inside




Fun Shoe

POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:

I suck at selfies but god do I love owning a house in Mist (hearts are from lawn equipment but sum up my feelings for Limsa)



Really awesome! I've wanted a house there for ages now. I grew up right on the beach and Mist reminds me of that.

Speaking of, if anyone knows someone selling a cottage in the Mist on Ultros, please PM me.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you
...I'm not getting any sleep tonight, am I.

Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002
It's just blowing my mind how we know so little about patches and the expack until it's actually here. I'm so used to having datamined WoW stuff for months beforehand. :psyduck:

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe
Okay, am I the only one having trouble getting the update? It keeps giving me a version mismatch between Updater and Game and I've tried everything outside of reinstalling.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Axel Serenity posted:

It's just blowing my mind how we know so little about patches and the expack until it's actually here. I'm so used to having datamined WoW stuff for months beforehand. :psyduck:

The XIV team assiduously attempts to avoid this, as do a lot of JP devs. I know many devs take avoiding spoilers very seriously. (So do the PR departments, who are really obsessive about revealing information at specific times.)

If anything, this Samurai thing is a pretty big slip-up, even if it's trying to get assets into place beforehand. I do hope nobody gets fired over it. :smith:

isk posted:

...I'm not getting any sleep tonight, am I.

Join us in "Yeah Rip" City, my brother. :getin:

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


SpaceDrake posted:

That's both the same version that is used for the anniversaries and also a more cohesive version of the music that played at the very end of 1.0, overriding the zone music.

So prepare your butts.


:ohdear:

quote:

This makes me chuckle a little bit because I can't help but think that, at some point, the EN lore team had to have the same chat with their JP team that we did with EGS, all those years ago now, about making sure that there was a separate column for the loving plurals in the English files. :v:

The presence of this column and the fact that Koji has some amount of access to it means that the canon, in-game plural for fat cat is "fat catz", so I am glad that it exists.

I wasn't expecting the final anima weapons to be the literal KotR arms, that's pretty cool.

Skaw
Aug 5, 2004

Intoluene posted:

Okay, am I the only one having trouble getting the update? It keeps giving me a version mismatch between Updater and Game and I've tried everything outside of reinstalling.

Go in to documents/my games/final fantasy xiv - a realm reborn/ and open FFXIV_BOOT.cfg with notepad or whatever text document program you like, look for BootVersionCheckMode and change the zero to a one. Run the launcher and it'll kick you the mismatch error one more time, but it'll restart itself and start downloading things.

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe

Skaw posted:

Go in to documents/my games/final fantasy xiv - a realm reborn/ and open FFXIV_BOOT.cfg with notepad or whatever text document program you like, look for BootVersionCheckMode and change the zero to a one. Run the launcher and it'll kick you the mismatch error one more time, but it'll restart itself and start downloading things.

This worked. Thank you so loving much.

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe
Edit: gently caress, doublepost. Have a catgirl image.

Intoluene fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Jan 17, 2017

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

SpaceDrake posted:

The XIV team assiduously attempts to avoid this, as do a lot of JP devs. I know many devs take avoiding spoilers very seriously. (So do the PR departments, who are really obsessive about revealing information at specific times.)

If anything, this Samurai thing is a pretty big slip-up, even if it's trying to get assets into place beforehand. I do hope nobody gets fired over it. :smith:

This is why I won't believe it until I hear yoshi reveal it himself.

Did they find Red Mage files too?

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

Did they find Red Mage files too?

Yes.

Nill
Aug 24, 2003

Skaw posted:

Go in to documents/my games/final fantasy xiv - a realm reborn/ and open FFXIV_BOOT.cfg with notepad or whatever text document program you like, look for BootVersionCheckMode and change the zero to a one. Run the launcher and it'll kick you the mismatch error one more time, but it'll restart itself and start downloading things.
If this doesn't work for you (it didn't work for me) the real solution is to force the launcher to update by telling it that you have a version that doesn't exist.

Go to the game's install directory (programs/squeenix/ffxivwhatever) and open the "boot" folder.
find ffxivboot.ver and open it with notepad
simply change the last number from 1 to 0

Next time you launch the game it will think it has an out-of-date nonexistent version of the launcher and finally download the new one.

Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002

SpaceDrake posted:

The XIV team assiduously attempts to avoid this, as do a lot of JP devs. I know many devs take avoiding spoilers very seriously. (So do the PR departments, who are really obsessive about revealing information at specific times.)

If anything, this Samurai thing is a pretty big slip-up, even if it's trying to get assets into place beforehand. I do hope nobody gets fired over it. :smith:

Yeah. And I guess FFXIV doesn't really have a "Beta Testing" phase as open as Blizzard's, which is where most of the datamined stuff comes from. It's just kind of different is all, since U.S. companies usually use new classes/races/etc as a major marketing tool to build hype and thus usually announce those kind of things at the same time as the expansion announcement that brings them.

I'm not complaining or anything. It's kind of nice having surprises again. It's just a bit of an adjustment to get used to.

Skaw posted:

Go in to documents/my games/final fantasy xiv - a realm reborn/ and open FFXIV_BOOT.cfg with notepad or whatever text document program you like, look for BootVersionCheckMode and change the zero to a one. Run the launcher and it'll kick you the mismatch error one more time, but it'll restart itself and start downloading things.

This fixed it isntantly for me, too, sot hanks for the heads up!

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


bgm_orch_133.scd.ogg is the rad as gently caress remix of Order Yet Undeciphered that plays in the solo instance between Sephirot and Sophia. I dunno what else I'm doing once I'm in game, but I'll be figuring out how to get that.

Skaw
Aug 5, 2004

Nill posted:

If this doesn't work for you (it didn't work for me) the real solution is to force the launcher to update by telling it that you have a version that doesn't exist.

Go to the game's install directory (programs/squeenix/ffxivwhatever) and open the "boot" folder.
find ffxivboot.ver and open it with notepad
simply change the last number from 1 to 0

Next time you launch the game it will think it has an out-of-date nonexistent version of the launcher and finally download the new one.

Good to know.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames

Thundarr posted:

bgm_orch_133.scd.ogg is the rad as gently caress remix of Order Yet Undeciphered that plays in the solo instance between Sephirot and Sophia. I dunno what else I'm doing once I'm in game, but I'll be figuring out how to get that.

I feel like I'm the only person who didn't like that remix.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Thundarr posted:

I wasn't expecting the final anima weapons to be the literal KotR arms, that's pretty cool.

I couldn't tell you if they are or not. However, modelviewer images of the actual weapons complete with textures are starting to be found. I'm not going to spoil the appearance for you, any clicking is on you.

Anima weapons, ilvl270
Images from Web Model Viewer
DRK, Cronus: http://i.imgur.com/1sgCqPp.png
WAR, Minos: http://i.imgur.com/xc7GHlS.png
PLD, Aettir & Priwen: http://i.imgur.com/l36FyUy.png & http://i.imgur.com/D92Vb8E.png
BRD, Terpander: http://i.imgur.com/61tztu2.png
MNK, Nyepels: http://i.imgur.com/mnjEED1.png
DRG, Areadbhar: http://i.imgur.com/Y0HXxW1.png
NIN, Sandungs: http://i.imgur.com/Nn52AyS.png
BLM, Kaladanda: http://i.imgur.com/JrPMslU.png
MCH, Deathlocke: Can't load model
SMN, Mimesis: http://i.imgur.com/k1xkUip.png
WHM, Sindri: http://i.imgur.com/RK8FuYo.png
AST, Canopus: http://i.imgur.com/OXrNSnz.png
SCH, Anabasis: http://i.imgur.com/dKSw3Zc.png
Images from FFXIV Explorer
DRK, Cronus: http://i.imgur.com/CEj6o1s.png
WAR, Minos: http://i.imgur.com/WoZYm3n.png
PLD, Aettir & Priwen: http://i.imgur.com/WKBouk6.png & http://i.imgur.com/UUGeqwn.png
BRD, Terpander: http://i.imgur.com/JHBCBQn.png
MNK, Nyepels: http://i.imgur.com/1OtQcgZ.png
DRG, Areadbhar: http://i.imgur.com/w1GEIAk.png (Close up: http://i.imgur.com/PzI2aQK.png)
NIN, Sandungs: http://i.imgur.com/g9Rrqaj.png
BLM, Kaladanda: http://i.imgur.com/CAVhRqB.png (Close up: http://i.imgur.com/zaWM1P3.png)
MCH, Deathlocke: http://i.imgur.com/JuOn071.png & http://i.imgur.com/g7UdqWP.png
SMN, Mimesis: Can't load model
WHM, Sindri: http://i.imgur.com/eJz5tH7.png (Close up: http://i.imgur.com/DA5AKE4.png)
AST, Canopus: Can't load model
SCH, Anabasis: Can't load model

(Also gently caress, I guess I'm starting Animu #3, that MCH one is sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk)

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Looks like the downside of playing WAR is that your anima weapon looks like the plastic axe that came with a He-Man action figure from the 80s.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
I'm sure that there's also a glow to it that makes it look like Relic Novus.

Zurvan weapons:

Zurvanite Fists http://i.imgur.com/NjAV0JQ.png
Zurvanite Axe http://i.imgur.com/Qp7zq9N.png
Zurvanite Pike http://i.imgur.com/3YtQkx1.png
Zurvanite Bow http://i.imgur.com/CCVgDAM.png
Zurvanite Points http://i.imgur.com/xIjHAfO.png
Zurvanite Edge http://i.imgur.com/eCtgktx.png
Zurvanite Fire http://i.imgur.com/R2KswsB.png
Zurvanite Cane http://i.imgur.com/kggZrYA.png
Zurvanite Pole http://i.imgur.com/V3yS5Oz.png
Zurvanite Word Can't load
Zurvanite Song Can't load
Zurvanite Star Can't load
Zurvanite Blade http://i.imgur.com/EQjzfnJ.png
Zurvanite Shield http://i.imgur.com/3zxuVth.png


code:
Zurvanite Blade			main stat	140	sks	97	parry	68
Zurvanite Shield		main stat	56	crit	39	det	26
pair of Zurvanite Fists		main stat	196	sks	136	det	91
Zurvanite Axe			main stat	196	crit	136	det	91
Zurvanite Pike			main stat	196	sks	136	crit	95
Zurvanite Bow			main stat	196	sks	136	crit	95
pair of Zurvanite Points	main stat	196	det	130	crit	95
Zurvanite Edge			main stat	196	det	130	sks	95
Zurvanite Fire			main stat	196	det	130	crit	95
Zurvanite Cane			main stat	176	det	130	ss	95
Zurvanite Pole			main stat	176	crit	136	ss	95
Zurvanite Word			main stat	176	det	130	ss	95
Zurvanite Song			main stat	176	ss	136	crit	95
Zurvanite Star			main stat	176	crit	136	det	91

SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Jan 17, 2017

Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002

Thundarr posted:

Looks like the downside of playing WAR is that your anima weapon looks like the plastic axe that came with a He-Man action figure from the 80s.

Considering how many of us are apparently dressed like He-Man, I see no issues with this :colbert:

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

Thundarr posted:

Looks like the downside of playing WAR is that your anima weapon looks like the plastic axe that came with a He-Man action figure from the 80s.

Help, not seeing the downside

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


OK not really a downside I guess. It's the most normal looking axe they've put in the game since you were in 2.0 leveling gear, so that ain't all bad.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
*I* think it's terrible. Could have saved myself the trouble of making it and just made the MCH one instead. Zurvan Axe is Crit/Det, too.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

DRK sword looks like a hella step down from the wonderful nonsense of Nothung and the Guillotine of the Tyrant, imo

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.
The glow on these better be incredible because a lot of them are about as phoned in as you get.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Like, I get that it's going for the whole Dragonslayer vibe, but it's missing the charisma of the Dragonslayer, if you get what I mean

Maybe the model viewer isn't portraying it as well as it should and ingame it's got that glorious slab of metal charm, but I dunno :shrug:

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
New AST weapon looks bad. Hopefully there's an upside.

Reco
Feb 26, 2011

enemy one body to the proximity Zan attack discard the power slap hit.
Excessive glow is extremely bad imo

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Please, I want to drown in particles

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A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
do we know the stats/substats on the garo gear?

also, pvp gear is now a relatively sane way to catch up on gear ilvl, if you're several patches behind. even queueing once a day for frontlines and losing, it will take 18 days for left side+weapons and only another five for right-side. winning your matches would cut this in half, and doing just an additional match a day will give you an extra 600-1000 marks a day.

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