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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Arivia posted:

Nah, it's not unheard of, especially for heavy rules systems. Go for it.
Just gonna say, it was a pretty excellent idea that I did it, because about half a round in it became apparent I'm gonna have to rework the entire first phase of a three phase battle :v:

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frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
I... I saw... nah-zink...

Jeb Bush 2012
Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

Terrible Opinions posted:

Much like the characters in recent Fire Emblem games all of the Overwatch characters are very obviously pandering to fetishes.

I don't play overwatch but what I've seen of it doesn't seem like an invitation to draw pornography imo

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."
oh baby

oh baby... yeah...

put that HAMMER DOWN

unfh!

The Lemondrop Dandy
Jun 7, 2007

If my memory serves me correctly...


Wedge Regret
So, I gave Gumshoe one-2-one a shot last night and it went pretty well. The system is pretty fun but it reeeeeeealy rewards a bunch of beforehand prep because you don't have the regular players-bicker-over-choices time to make poo poo up.

I'd recommend it.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Ratpick posted:

lovely Chinese knockoffs are my fetish.

That's why I play Paladins instead of Overwatch.

Paladins isn't lovely, you move around really fast like an old school shooter and ultimates don't actually feel like buttons you press to instantly win a team fight. It's actually a really good game.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Siivola posted:

I think Blizz has to challenge the use of their assets, because otherwise they risk forfeiting them.

Only if they're trademarks.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Terrible Opinions posted:

Much like the characters in recent Fire Emblem games all of the Overwatch characters are very obviously pandering to fetishes.

What fetish does Zenyatta pander to? I really want to meet the person who sees a pseudo-zen robo-monk and goes "this is my fetish"

Serf
May 5, 2011


Harrow posted:

What fetish does Zenyatta pander to? I really want to meet the person who sees a pseudo-zen robo-monk and goes "this is my fetish"

:whatup:

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Harrow posted:

What fetish does Zenyatta pander to? I really want to meet the person who sees a pseudo-zen robo-monk and goes "this is my fetish"

The most recent episode of Extra Credits proved people have a fetish for people with more than one set of arms. So, there ya go.

Ominous Jazz
Jun 15, 2011

Big D is chillin' over here
Wasteland style
More arms means better hugs so obviously everyone should have that kink

Serf
May 5, 2011


It's like those psychologists back in the like 60s or whatever who were trying to compile a list of all the fetishes. They showed it to a comrade who said "my fetish is everything not on the list". Apparently they gave up after that.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Serf posted:

It's like those psychologists back in the like 60s or whatever who were trying to compile a list of all the fetishes. They showed it to a comrade who said "my fetish is everything not on the list". Apparently they gave up after that.

Fetishes are tricky like that, you can actually give yourself a fetish, if for some strange reason you wanted to, through classical conditioning. Although removing one is harder work. This makes compiling a list of all possible fetishes impossible.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Countblanc posted:

Paladins isn't lovely, you move around really fast like an old school shooter and ultimates don't actually feel like buttons you press to instantly win a team fight. It's actually a really good game.

Actually the thing you don't like is good and let me explain why the thing you like is worse.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Actually the thing you don't like is good and let me explain why the thing you like is worse.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Countblanc posted:

Paladins isn't lovely, you move around really fast like an old school shooter and ultimates don't actually feel like buttons you press to instantly win a team fight. It's actually a really good game.

It's still a Hero Shooter

Jeb Bush 2012
Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

Serf posted:

It's like those psychologists back in the like 60s or whatever who were trying to compile a list of all the fetishes. They showed it to a comrade who said "my fetish is everything not on the list". Apparently they gave up after that.

Did you just post an xkcd maths joke as fact

Ominous Jazz
Jun 15, 2011

Big D is chillin' over here
Wasteland style

Plutonis posted:

It's still a Hero Shooter

My only problems with hero shooters is that they aren't team fortress 2 and my only problem with team fortress 2 is that it's a bad game now

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


For me hero shooters are all about interesting characters with unique mechanics and hopefully decent game balance.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Ominous Jazz posted:

My only problems with hero shooters is that they aren't team fortress 2 and my only problem with team fortress 2 is that it's a bad game now

Yeah, Overwatch was just me waiting for a successor to TF2 since Valve has decided they didn't need to put in effort on it anymore.

I'm sure Paladins is fine enough, I just don't have time to split my attention on competitive shooters.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Ominous Jazz posted:

My only problems with hero shooters is that they aren't team fortress 2 and my only problem with team fortress 2 is that it's a bad game now

It's been bad since 2012

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Alien Rope Burn posted:

Yeah, Overwatch was just me waiting for a successor to TF2 since Valve has decided they didn't need to put in effort on it anymore.

I'm sure Paladins is fine enough, I just don't have time to split my attention on competitive shooters.

Why put in the effort when you can sell haaaaaats.

Cassa
Jan 29, 2009
Low effort = big money seems to be most of kickstarter.



Unrelatedly, is there a Glorantha deity that is equivalent to Dionysus/‎Bacchus?

Ominous Jazz
Jun 15, 2011

Big D is chillin' over here
Wasteland style

Plutonis posted:

It's been bad since 2012

2012 was five loving years ago

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Cassa posted:

Unrelatedly, is there a Glorantha deity that is equivalent to Dionysus/‎Bacchus?
Pretty much all deities do the Dionysus mystery cult get-hosed-up-and-see-things, through cult HeroQuest ceremonies. Maybe the Puppeteer Troupes are closest? Travellng entertainers who know how to party and have a lot of mysterious magic involving disorder and illusion and chaos (but not Chaos)?

The Orlanthi have a god of brewing (Minlister)

Haystack
Jan 23, 2005





Cassa posted:

Unrelatedly, is there a Glorantha deity that is equivalent to Dionysus/‎Bacchus?

Eurmal is probably the closest, at least in spirit. As the trickster, he's (unsurprisingly) associated with a lot of booze-related-myths*, and is literally the avatar of disorder. He's not literally the god of booze, though.

*My favorite being the one where he calms a berserking Babeester Gor by turning the literal lake of blood she had made into ale, thus getting her knockout drunk.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
How are the FFG Star Wars games? I'm thinking of playing some space opera games and I'm leaning towards Stars Without Number but would probably be able to get more players if I use a familiar setting.

Mr. Maltose
Feb 16, 2011

The Guffless Girlverine
The blood/booze lake is my favorite Orlanthi myth that's straight taken by a real mythos.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

SunAndSpring posted:

How are the FFG Star Wars games? I'm thinking of playing some space opera games and I'm leaning towards Stars Without Number but would probably be able to get more players if I use a familiar setting.
This is probably just me, but I don't like the amount of "figure out interesting consequences" every roll places on the GM. :shrug:

Otherwise it's a solid enough system, overall, especially if that's the kind of thing you enjoy.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

SunAndSpring posted:

How are the FFG Star Wars games? I'm thinking of playing some space opera games and I'm leaning towards Stars Without Number but would probably be able to get more players if I use a familiar setting.

Solid, workable, but it shows through the cracks that it was originally built to be a system for Warhammer Fantasy 3E so certain aspects of it don't exactly line up 1-1 with what a lot of people envision in a more "narrative" style Star Wars RPG, like the fact that Stormtroopers are actually potentially quite lethal and the way PCs weather that is through repeated use of healing drugs like something out of Fallout. It's also got something of a gear porn emphasis and yet money seems oddly tight. I mean overall it seems to be a perfectly enjoyable system and I'll actually take the opposite stance from dwarf74 and say that I prefer games that are up-front with GMs about needing to be ready to come up with interesting consequences every time you roll because GMs should be prepped to do that or else they shouldn't be making you roll in the first place.

Something to note, which may be a selling point for you depending on your tastes in Star Wars, is that force users explicitly lean towards the original trilogy end of things rather than the prequel side, so it's less telekinetic super-swordsmen slamming people around with force blasts and scattering people by the dozens and more, well, the sort of thing you see in the OT.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Kwyndig posted:

Why put in the effort when you can sell haaaaaats.

When I decided I was leaving TF2, I decided to put my only unusual hat up for $200, thinking that it would never go for it but I should give it a shot. I originally had it valued by a goon trader for around $30-$50, which seemed accurate for the Steam history of that hat's sales. But I saw they occasionally went for upwards of that on the Steam history, so hey, worst case it doesn't sell and I have to drop the price.

It sold overnight.

Ratpick
Oct 9, 2012

And no one ate dinner that night.

Countblanc posted:

Paladins isn't lovely, you move around really fast like an old school shooter and ultimates don't actually feel like buttons you press to instantly win a team fight. It's actually a really good game.

Yeah, I kid because I love. I actually really like Paladins though I have to admit that I haven't played it for a while now. Last time I tried to play it though it took ages to find a match. I'm not sure if it was just bad luck or if the game's userbase has dwindled here in Europe.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Ratpick posted:

Yeah, I kid because I love. I actually really like Paladins though I have to admit that I haven't played it for a while now. Last time I tried to play it though it took ages to find a match. I'm not sure if it was just bad luck or if the game's userbase has dwindled here in Europe.

I think the team/arena shooter genres are just stagnant in general. Even OW, for being massively more popular than any other, has had its competitive scene stall out, especially in EU for a couple reasons. There's not a lot that can be done about it - they're a high-ish execution genre and developers have moved away from hosted servers and purely into matchmaking so you have to always be "on". Compare it to when TF2 first came out (as well as earlier FPS games obviously) and you'd easily find servers of people just playing music over alltalk and talking about dinner like it was irc or something. Relatively niche markets I guess.

fr0id
Jul 27, 2016

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

dwarf74 posted:

This is probably just me, but I don't like the amount of "figure out interesting consequences" every roll places on the GM. :shrug:

Otherwise it's a solid enough system, overall, especially if that's the kind of thing you enjoy.

Technically per the rules, the side that rolls comes up with good consequences that they rolled and the side they roll against comes up with bad consequences that they rolled. So as a GM you are doing only half the work of coming up with results each time. Also, if a roll doesn't have any kind of interesting consequences, consider whether it's actually worth rolling.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

fr0id posted:

Technically per the rules, the side that rolls comes up with good consequences that they rolled and the side they roll against comes up with bad consequences that they rolled. So as a GM you are doing only half the work of coming up with results each time. Also, if a roll doesn't have any kind of interesting consequences, consider whether it's actually worth rolling.
Nah, I'm just frequently okay with the roll's outcome itself being the interesting thing I question, rather than worrying about coming up with side-things.

And for real, I think it's fine, it's just a personal taste thing.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 2 minutes!

dwarf74 posted:

This is probably just me, but I don't like the amount of "figure out interesting consequences" every roll places on the GM. :shrug:

Otherwise it's a solid enough system, overall, especially if that's the kind of thing you enjoy.
I totally get what you're saying, though I find that this is not a problem for me (at least in combat) because I've just found that I'm very good at that kind of thing, probably because I grew up addicted to kung fu movies. The last time I ran D&D 3.5, my group told me they wanted to focus on lots of combat because their favourite thing was me narrating what happened when they scored critical hits. We were using the Book of 9 Swords, so...

Instead, I struggle with that kind of thing when the burden is on the GM to think of social consequences, as in Monsterhearts.

But really, my only complaint about Edge of the Empire is that you have to buy the funny overpriced dice. FFG is good at making people dependent on Ameritrash bits to play with.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

I need recommendations for two-player board games (or games that work well with two players) that don't take up a ton of space.

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

FactsAreUseless posted:

I need recommendations for two-player board games (or games that work well with two players) that don't take up a ton of space.

how much is a ton of space. Like- an A4 page or what?

because goty 2015 is on sale

Flavivirus
Dec 14, 2011

The next stage of evolution.

FactsAreUseless posted:

I need recommendations for two-player board games (or games that work well with two players) that don't take up a ton of space.

Patchwork! The app's pretty good for it, which takes up even less space. Splendour is pretty good 2p too.

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Paging Bottom Liner to the thread, Bottom Liner to the thread

FactsAreUseless posted:

I need recommendations for two-player board games (or games that work well with two players) that don't take up a ton of space.

I've greatly enjoyed Agricola: All Creatures Great and Small and 7 Wonders Duel.

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