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OK so actually if it has any carapace weapons it can still shoot you with those while you're in the trench. But yes this is still also extremely dumb and a very funny way to nerf some extraordinarily expensive models.
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Didn't Fantasy have some models/units that didn't make the jumps between editions? I can't think of any but could swear there were.
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Chaos dwarfs Came back in resin and then got sigmar.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Didn't Fantasy have some models/units that didn't make the jumps between editions? I can't think of any but could swear there were. Like 1/3 of the O&G army from 4th to 6th.
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Forest Goblins disappeared entirely at one point, not sure if they're back beyond spider riders and such, but back in the day you had forest, dark and common goblins all in different infantry units. I think common goblins had better leadership, and then forest maybe had poison (and their shaman could take mushrooms), and night goblins had the initiative bonus. And fanatics.
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Ugleb posted:I haven't actually played 40k in something like 15 years but my impression is that it needs a clean break and hard reset. Carrying over old codices from edition to edition means that you can't really fix underlying issues cleanly because everything needs to be backwards compatible. I don't think this is a smart idea when you charge as much as GW does for models Leperflesh posted:OK so actually if it has any carapace weapons it can still shoot you with those while you're in the trench. The funny/dumb part is that this new set of FAQs was made with input from the two major tournament orgs for 40k. And yet somehow, the end result is still garbage
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TheChirurgeon posted:I don't think this is a smart idea when you charge as much as GW does for models In which case you must always find a valid use for everything released ever going back decades no matter how superfluous or dumb it might have been. If cutting stuff out is not on the table then there isn't much scope for removing bloat, you are left with trying to make general rules that must fit everything. That is where you end up with unwieldy amounts of special rules Creeping in as you try to differentiate every last unit from a bunch of similar units.
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It's really GW's own fault and it's all part of the feedback loop they created where the only thing that sells is Space Marines and so they have to go on making new Space Marine units so that people keep buying Space Marines. Like imagine if they had updated the Sisters range instead of making baby carriers or centurians. But now all of that stuff is here to stay and people have spent thousands of dollars on it and will want to be able to use them in whatever 40k successor ends up being released. It's kind of funny to think about it, but it seems like a Mantic approach where they made "Kill Team" a fully supported game with stripped down army lists and revised rules and fast play and then "Apocalypse 40k" a separate pillar with the full range of legacy models might actually be the best solution. Of course, this is what people said they should have done with Fantasy and AoS.
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Who is the anointed goon army painting service provider? I have a big pile of old chaos dwarfs I am never going to finish. I want to get them into display condition and sell off the rest of my junk. So I think this is the year I get that done. thanks.
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KingFisher posted:Who is the anointed goon army painting service provider? For chaos dwarves I've heard you can't beat Blue Table Paintings 50% off deal.
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LordAba posted:For chaos dwarves I've heard you can't beat Blue Table Paintings 50% off deal. 
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LordAba posted:For chaos dwarves I've heard you can't beat Blue Table Paintings 50% off deal. Har Har
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KingFisher posted:Who is the anointed goon army painting service provider? Try asking in the painting thread
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Chill la Chill posted:How mad would warham grognards be if you rolled over all the models into fewer unit types? I think one of the most incredibly freeing things was playing frostgrave and being able to use any cool model that roughly fits X archetype into this or that profile. Imagine if you could use either Dreadnoughts or Centurions or GK babywalkers with the Dreadnought profile. It would be VERY good, as it would also make it possible to actually balance the game. Maybe allow some kind of 2nd edition wargear card stuff or simple, army specific bonuses to allow some customization?
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You can tell the people who really love the models and those who just buy them for play power reasons based on their view of that "problem." It's actually funny that you can see who actually believes in the "forge your narrative" and modeling and story stuff despite most GW whales claiming that's why they buy the models. Like holy poo poo if I were allowed to use the star viper as any other wang I would buy 3 more because they look so nice. I would buy 2 more ghosts to use as other freighter-bombers because lol space whales. The wargear system is how X wing works and it's wonderful.
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Yeah that's really one of the greatest things about Kings of War are the loose proxying rules. As long as the unit isn't easily confused with a different unit in the list, basically anything goes. I think the only explicit restriction on proxying is that you can't use chariots to represent cavalry if the army includes an entry for chariots.
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Irate Tree posted:... 40k thread (bad thread? It's the bad thread, yeah?) ... 40K: Bad Thread 40K Death: Mad Thread WHFB: Sad Thread Specialist Games: Fad Thread
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Ilor posted:A concise guide: Ahh, this is going on a sticky note, so i don't forget! ... Where does the 30k thread sit in this?
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The best thread
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Irate Tree posted:Ahh, this is going on a sticky note, so i don't forget!
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The rad thread is the byob one.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Perhaps it is the dad thread? Good pick, considering that 30k is 100% about daddy issues.
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Byob is Rad thread, 30k is Dad thread, this checks out.
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Actually, 30k is the Fad Thread. The Dad Thread is historicals. AoS is the... uh... (Smash Me in the) Nad Thread? I'll need to workshop that one.
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Avenging Dentist posted:AoS is the... uh... (Smash Me in the) Nad Thread? I'll need to workshop that one.
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Wow the AOS is strong in this one. (WTF are those rune stones doing in that blue vapour BS) 
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Why did this man(?) bring his coral reef to the battlefield that is very environmentally unsound
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Exactly like WHFB elves. Combine the faction, release a big centerpiece model kit. Age of the Emperor is in full swing.
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I'd almost give that model a pass if it were cast in clear plastic so you could do a neat translucent effect on the blue jizz but they didn't so instead I will remark on how lazy the pose is. The pose is very lazy.
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I'm not an expert in such things, but that looks like an absolute pain in the arse to transport anywhere.
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I actually don't think he'd be that bad to transport compared to some of the GW stuff out there (and even my beloved Dark Age has some stuff that would be a pain). You'd probably want to magnetize the sword though. The biggest issue is that it just looks bad.
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TKIY posted:Exactly like WHFB elves. Combine the faction, release a big centerpiece model kit. GW have clearly stated that this is not the same thing. Why would they lie?
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potentiallycool posted:Wow the AOS is strong in this one. "You wanna paint our figure? gently caress you." The model
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Drone posted:Wait, did they actually combine Eldar and Dark Eldar into one army now? Based on the unbelievably-poo poo video about it, I would guess yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AvuYAOJi8M I had to look up what the gently caress an Ynnead was though. (The other models are ok-to-good though.) e: Also I just realized that this means Slaanesh is gonna be dead/captured/whatever in both AoS and Age of Emperor. Avenging Dentist fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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