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Holy poo poo, I'm loving the 50 year mission book. Just started the 2nd one, but I had no idea there were so many almost shows and movies they tried doing. I knew about phase 2,but not things like academy years or planet of the titans. I also started getting anxiety just listening to the stories about writers dealing with Roddenberry.
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McSpanky posted:The other thing about fruitcake is, if you add rum cake preparation they're super awesome. My grandma made a rummy fruitcake that I'm pretty sure was a fire hazard. Fruitcake with rum is just rum cake. Take it from me, I know this poo poo, I'm Jamaican.
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Do Klingons have special eyes or do they just really like the dark room with red light-bulbs aesthetic? Like was Worf constantly in agony and half blind from how bright it was on Enterprise and that's why he could never hit bad guys with his phaser?
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The are a people willing to suffer for the aesthetic. It's why they always lose.
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Pwnstar posted:Do Klingons have special eyes or do they just really like the dark room with red light-bulbs aesthetic? Like was Worf constantly in agony and half blind from how bright it was on Enterprise and that's why he could never hit bad guys with his phaser? Some really old book said Klingon visual spectrum stops at blue so they might see way more reds/oranges than humans do.
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Pwnstar posted:Do Klingons have special eyes or do they just really like the dark room with red light-bulbs aesthetic? Like was Worf constantly in agony and half blind from how bright it was on Enterprise and that's why he could never hit bad guys with his phaser? Actually dark rooms with red lights are very common on submarines since red light allows you to maintain night vision.
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Duckbag posted:Galileo 7 stuff This is another episode that I love because Scotty gets to be an understated badass. Everyone else is losing their poo poo, but Scotty's just going about his business and fixing the shuttle. When the fuel lines break or whatever his response is effectively "welp, guess we're all dead now."  Scotty
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Amazon Alexa finally realizes its full potential. (You can use "Computer" as its wake word.)
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WickedHate posted:Well when you put it that way it sounds absolutely loving retarded. I actually really enjoyed the "Spock's first command" part of Galileo and think Nimoy gave a fantastic performance. It's just all the rest of it that was dumb and contrived. I'm still trying to decide whether I should blame the guest actors or the script, but either way the dialog is just hilariously overheated with lots of great ACT-ing, so I'd heartily recommend it to anyone who appreciates good scenery chewing. I'm not sure this episode qualifies as one of the Thirty Good Ones, but it's definitely better than most of the third season, at least. e: Paradoxish posted:This is another episode that I love because Scotty gets to be an understated badass. Everyone else is losing their poo poo, but Scotty's just going about his business and fixing the shuttle. When the fuel lines break or whatever his response is effectively "welp, guess we're all dead now." Yeah, I forgot to mention that, but I love Scott's role here. Doohan (or the director, maybe) made the clever choice of making Scotty go soft when everyone else goes loud. He never really raises his voice, doesn't get involved in the petty squabbling, and quietly backs Spock throughout even as McCoy and the others are freaking out and actively undermining his authority. There's one great moment where the melodrama is starting up again and he just sort of chuckles like "you idiots" and gets back to work. It's a much more nuanced character than the "they cannae hold much longer!" Scotty we see in a lot of episodes. Duckbox fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Kazy posted:Amazon Alexa finally realizes its full potential. Finally
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Duckbag posted:I still feel bad for the vaporized crewman in that episode. No one even seems to notice. If it were TOS or TNG, I'd just laugh at another senseless redshirt death, but DS9 never did that, so I can't help but feel for the poor bastard who got to be the one exception. Civil Defense is basically a Paranoia game (or at least, how I run Paranoia), all the way down to the killer vending machine, so you gotta have at least one death. But that also means he'll get another five chances to screw it up down the line. GOD, I love that episode.
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Watching Star Trek try to apply technobabble to magic psi powers is painful. Eye of the Beholder "Counselor, could your empathic abilities have somehow sensed a traumatic event that happened there 8 years ago." "Pffft I don't see how that's possible, get your Tales of the Crypt poo poo outta here." Later "Captain the subspace discharge from the plasma stream must have trapped the telepath's strong emotions, like a photographic imprint that I was able to see years later!" Also a good we're-totally-not-doing-Lord-of-the-Rings-fantasy-this-is-science moment in Gambit. "Yes it is a legendary ancient weapon but there is nothing supernatural or magical about it." "Oh okay what does it do." "It lets me kill people with my spooky mind powers"
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macnbc posted:Actually dark rooms with red lights are very common on submarines since red light allows you to maintain night vision. Cool info, thank you. Unless that's what they want us to think and disguised Klingon crews have taken over our strategic naval vehicles.
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Unexpected Star Trek sighting: (Alt text: a picture of Data patting his head under the phrase "pat head" on a sheet listing parts of speech) Wish I knew whether it was on purpose or the teacher just picked it randomly.
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Phimosissy posted:Finally That picture just makes me sad now. On the other hand... After The War posted:Civil Defense is basically a Paranoia game (or at least, how I run Paranoia), all the way down to the killer vending machine, so you gotta have at least one death. But that also means he'll get another five chances to screw it up down the line. That episode was what turned me from staunchly anti-Dukat to Dukat Fan Club President as a kid, so it's always awesome. E: Also yes my mothers meatloaf was a food crime. Orv fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Volume 2 of Fifty Year Mission is STILL not available digitally in Australia as far asi can tell. What the hell.
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Anyone know how DS9 did the jumja sticks? Those things have always looked incredibly delicious to me.
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Beachcomber posted:Anyone know how DS9 did the jumja sticks? Those things have always looked incredibly delicious to me. They look like a resin or silicone prop in most images. If I wanted to make an edible one I'd go with an extra thick jello on a stick.
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Beachcomber posted:Anyone know how DS9 did the jumja sticks? Those things have always looked incredibly delicious to me. Probably some sort of resin so they can reuse the props.
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Looked like a giant one of those maple syrup candies you get in Canada.
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Gaz-L posted:Looked like a giant one of those maple syrup candies you get in Canada.
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I'm doing a TOS run and I keep forgetting how ridiculously over the top the redshirt deaths in The Apple are. This episode had four on-screen redshirt deaths and I'm pretty sure it's solely responsible for the redshirt = death part of TOS' legacy. Death one: Shot to death by a flower (Spock later survives the same thing) Death two: Stepped on a rock and exploded Death three: Struck by lightning (Spock later survives the same thing) Death four: Beaten to death by tribesmen The only thing that would have made it blatant is if there were one remaining redshirt. He looks around nervously. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy all turn around and look at him expectantly. He explodes. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy return to business.
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VitalSigns posted:Watching Star Trek try to apply technobabble to magic psi powers is painful. I really like Eye of the Beholder until, like the last 5 minutes. It has a great, nightmare quality to it, and everything being off kilter and poo poo just getting weird is great. Then they have to go and explain it all. Civil Defense is an episode I always feel is earlier in the series than it is. But yea It's one of my favorite episodes as it's one of those episodes that show what a strong ensemble they have in Ds9 and they all have something to do.
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McNally posted:I'm doing a TOS run and I keep forgetting how ridiculously over the top the redshirt deaths in The Apple are. I always imagined that Scotty or maybe Chekov would probably try to get chummy with the redshirts, and Kirk would have to tell them off like they were kids playing with a feral dog.
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I posted this in the GBS thread, but I haven't seen it here yet, and it deserves to be spread. It's my favourite quote from the 50 Years books.Rick Berman posted:
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MorgaineDax posted:I posted this in the GBS thread, but I haven't seen it here yet, and it deserves to be spread. It's my favourite quote from the 50 Years books. Should this be Rickberman.txt? Seriously though, we should be eternally grateful that DS9 wasn't important enough to merit his attention.
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MorgaineDax posted:I posted this in the GBS thread, but I haven't seen it here yet, and it deserves to be spread. It's my favourite quote from the 50 Years books. "The Dominion what?" -Rick Berman
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To be fair, the Dominion War wasn't a seasonal arc. It was the whole dang show
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Sash! posted:To be fair, the Dominion War wasn't a seasonal arc. I mean, not the first bit at all. Most of it, though.
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twistedmentat posted:Civil Defense is an episode I always feel is earlier in the series than it is. But yea It's one of my favorite episodes as it's one of those episodes that show what a strong ensemble they have in Ds9 and they all have something to do. Also great for driving home how loving incompetent (and completely unimaginative from a writing standpoint) security is on the flagship. Every replicator on the Ent-D could be a boarding defense weapon against any intruder that's not the same race as anyone on the ship. Those forcefields could divide up the ship and corral enemy forces while allowing Starfleet personnel to pass through with an access code. Terminate the gravity and suck out all the air from any section with enemy lifesigns and no friendlies. And for the love of god run a few drills where the bridge crew has to react to an unexpected transport and shoot an intruder before he fully materializes. Picard and Riker even talk about how one of them will probably die before they can move if they beam onto the bridge in 11001001, but whenever intruders try that the whole crew just sorta stares at them and finally Worf fires too late and misses.
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Odo dragging Worf for how many security gently caress-ups the Enterprise had is seriously one of my favorite little things.
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It's considered rude and unsportsmanlike to interfere with someone during transport.
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VitalSigns posted:Also great for driving home how loving incompetent (and completely unimaginative from a writing standpoint) security is on the flagship. As I've said before, it's not really intended as a warship, so much as a luxury cruise liner that could glass a planet.
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VitalSigns posted:Every replicator on the Ent-D could be a boarding defense weapon against any intruder that's not the same race as anyone on the ship. Those forcefields could divide up the ship and corral enemy forces while allowing Starfleet personnel to pass through with an access code. Terminate the gravity and suck out all the air from any section with enemy lifesigns and no friendlies. Meanwhile on the Cardassian station they're all well situated for this purpose...
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VitalSigns posted:Watching Star Trek try to apply technobabble to magic psi powers is painful. I think this is one of the biggest things TOS has over TNG. TNG gets bogged down in reams of Piller filler about ectoplasmic phase-shifted spectral entities and reconfiguring the tricorders to emit an inverse tachyon pulse. TOS says Jack The Ripper can forcibly possess people, so let's just get everyone high as balls and then beam Ripper into space. VitalSigns posted:Also great for driving home how loving incompetent (and completely unimaginative from a writing standpoint) security is on the flagship. I've already posted this earlier in the thread, but I think the most extreme example of this is when the loving Ferengi manage to take the Enterprise in Rascals. Never mind the hilarious disconnect between the battle's dialogue and literally every other aspect of that part of the episode (the dialogue says "holy poo poo, we're getting blasted, there's probably dozens of fatalities just from the ship getting pummeled", while the score and editing and acting and lighting and EVERYTHING ELSE says "oh, i guess this is a problem? maybe??"), but it took all of, what, six?! Ferengi to somehow take over. Like okay I get that this was almost certainly a "okay guys, we gotta do a bottle show" situation and they couldn't afford blowing up the corridor set with a huge running phaser battle or something, but holy poo poo even without fancy intruder control trickery there should be a lot more bodies on the deck to take a starship.
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Rebuttal: he's my number one dad.
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I give that episode some leeway because it's a "light" episode (see above), and I figure they didn't really take over the ship, more like they held it hostage. Sure at any point the crew could have stormed the bridge and taken control back, but they would have taken some bridge crew casualties, better to just take it slow and de-escalate the situation. It's just some Ferengi after all. And besides, we know from experience there's nothing more dangerous to the Ent-D than an old surplus Bird of Prey. It does make me wonder though, what happens if Picard or Riker lock out the command codes then get killed. Does the Enterprise become destine to just float around space forever because no one can even send a message to get an Admiral to fly out and override it?
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While we're plugging along slowly, about halfway through B5, our older daughters had too much homework to join us so my wife and I decided to start something new to her, and that I haven't seen since it ended. Trip report: DS9, Emissary, Part 1 This is so bad, you guys. I mean it's not as bad as B5: The Gathering, and that's my favorite show of all time, so I'm not saying I quit or anything ridiculous like that. I do remember enjoying some of this later on. So far though, Colm Meaney and Patrick Stewart are carrying this and just embarrassing everyone else. Is Trekschamen a thing?
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:While we're plugging along slowly, about halfway through B5, our older daughters had too much homework to join us so my wife and I decided to start something new to her, and that I haven't seen since it ended. Season 1 is definitely DS9's weakest season. Odo, Quark, and a few other fan favorites don't have much to do in Emissary if I remember correctly, you'll probably like it more once they get some spotlight. And you'll especially like it once they start getting into longer plot arcs in season 2.
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