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stump collector
May 28, 2007
didn'tget to see it all cause i was driving, but i hugely respect gambit for gambling on train/cobble 50-50 because those are two good/great maps for them. VP is good enough at train that you can see 16-10 and not be at all sad about it. maybe you win Tpistol and another gun round and you're a 3-0 team. gambit should be a dangerous team going forward assuming they advance. not sure how big their map pool reallyis, but with zeus leading they should have 4 or 5 strong maps.

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Buller
Nov 6, 2010
Astralis trying Train again makes me uncomfortable

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

Why do they all play with their keyboards like that

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Jeza posted:

At this point, the advantage conferred by the kind of hacks that aren't detectable and are subtle enough to pass to close scrutiny is so minimal that the risk/reward is pretty skewed. One cheating member of a lineup with a silent aim modification will probably only increase your team's winrate by a small fraction, and obviously the consequences for getting caught are pretty much annihilation for your career. Not to mention the kind of coder support required for something like this would be expensive as hell all on its own. Then all you need is a single leak to totally cripple you. You'll have an insane Sword of Damocles hanging over you permanently in terms of blackmail material, the stress of potentially being caught and bypassing every event and so on.

The only way it could be really legit would be if the team organisers and all players in the lineup themselves were in on it and it was systemic, but that's so lurid that it's not worth considering. Most of these players have been playing this game for literally thousands of hours over 5+ years, some even touching over a decade of competitive play + even more amateur play. Most of the people who call cheats on stuff that happens in these games are just on a completely different level to these players.

For in-game hacks this is accurate, but there are other ways to give yourself a pretty decent advantage. You could eliminate them with a metal detector, I don't know if any tournaments do that.

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.
Now I'm wondering how big the intersection between vacsucks and t_d posters is.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Nice to see shox is still good as all hell.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


This doesn't mean anyone is cheating, but the possibility of doing so with one trusted confidant is there (if there are no metal detectors).

Smol posted:

Now I'm wondering how big the intersection between vacsucks and t_d posters is.

May just be a circle diagram.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.
That SmithZz no-scope is one of the best I've seen for a long time.

Buller
Nov 6, 2010
Whiffz really living up to his name.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

drunken officeparty posted:

Why do they all play with their keyboards like that

You mean tilted over? A lot of the time in old tournaments you didn't have a lot of room on the table so if you can maximize your space usage it paid off. It's also a "claw" thing you can google, just a preference.

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.
RIP frenchies

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry
What is it with cs coaches and obviously unhealthy lifestyle choices

Buller
Nov 6, 2010
SHOX HAHA, oh my god feelin bad for la france

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
clutches that shouldnt have happened

Buller
Nov 6, 2010
Easy peasy for Astralis

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.

Bohemian Nights posted:

What is it with cs coaches and obviously unhealthy lifestyle choices

It starts with playing CS

stump collector
May 28, 2007

Bohemian Nights posted:

What is it with cs coaches and obviously unhealthy lifestyle choices

other than that massive fat guy from godsent and the massive fat guy from sk/immortals/liquid and the massive fat guy from astralis

what do you mean

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.
Navi looks like the best team in the tournament by far.

stump collector
May 28, 2007
na vi n a vi na vi

stump collector
May 28, 2007
this game is extremely exciting. if you miss it, you need to watch the vod on youtube

real dilemma
Apr 12, 2007

stump collector posted:

this game is extremely exciting. if you miss it, you need to watch the vod on youtube

i want more posts like this because i'm at work all day and don't necessarily know which games are worth watching from the final scores

stump collector
May 28, 2007
i missed a few, but vp/gambit and navi/sk are worth it so far imo

stump collector
May 28, 2007
flamie/simple are frighteningly good wtf

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.
North vs HR is the game of the day so far though. Close, lots of clutches, elimination match. Can't ask for much more.

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



goddamn edward is good on pistols

stump collector
May 28, 2007
f l a m i e

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Navi just crushing everything.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Sorry but jdm64 is a shithead loser. I saw him spazz out on someone in a broadcast match just acting like a child. The broadcasters had to rotate the free camera so the in-game chat was in the sky and less legible because it was so embarrassing for the entire organization.

Mr. F!
Sep 21, 2016

dex_sda posted:

For in-game hacks this is accurate, but there are other ways to give yourself a pretty decent advantage. You could eliminate them with a metal detector, I don't know if any tournaments do that.

what are you talking about that metal detectors can detect?

Gradis
Feb 27, 2016

GAPE APE

Mr. F! posted:

what are you talking about that metal detectors can detect?

robot arms

Photex
Apr 6, 2009




VelociBacon posted:

Sorry but jdm64 is a shithead loser. I saw him spazz out on someone in a broadcast match just acting like a child. The broadcasters had to rotate the free camera so the in-game chat was in the sky and less legible because it was so embarrassing for the entire organization.

he was a real loving baby during the Fuse documentary

stump collector
May 28, 2007
N I C E

e: what documentary, what match if possible

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Gradis posted:

robot arms

We need dogs at each entrance to make sure Terminators aren't playing Counter-Strike.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

stump collector posted:

N I C E

e: what documentary, what match if possible

Was some minor online match like a year ago I don't remember. It was on train after the rework.

Photex
Apr 6, 2009




stump collector posted:

N I C E

e: what documentary, what match if possible

http://mashable.com/2016/10/19/gamer-gods-team-liquid/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link#giHQ2GKPHSqs

stump collector
May 28, 2007
liquid should've rushed inner to vents a long time ago imo

Gradis
Feb 27, 2016

GAPE APE

Mr. F! posted:

what are you talking about that metal detectors can detect?

i guessing though that some coms device like some poo poo from casino where a spectator can relay info to a device hidden in a shoe zapping the toes to communicate enemy areas in clutch situations.

Audax
Dec 1, 2005
"LOL U GOT OWNED"
It's called a thumper

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

I enjoy EliGE's Guile hairstyle right now.

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Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin
Nice to see FaZe turning this into a really close game after that bad start. Really a bunch of great games today.

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