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Xy Hapu posted:I'm honest-to-god convinced a bunch of the things in this game are only there to mess with the players. A lot is probably just incompetence, but I find it hard to explain stuff like the nerve tonic part of that one mission, or the borg diamond that runs away from you forever, or the titillating 'bury the tox uthat in some sand' minigame. This is literally the sort of spiteful thing Gozer would do way back before he started getting too cocky and hosed with the CEO's demands to fix all the sadistic stuff he put in the game. Did they rehire Gozer at some point? Or did he leave an apprentice? Or are goons just pissed that there's finally mobs that will gently caress over commonly preferred tactics?
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Asimo posted:It's a drat shame since unlike the queues it's actually kind of fun, but yeah it's literally pointless without the chance of an elite mark reward. I'm glad I don't give a gently caress about the game anymore or else I'd be annoyed by this, I'll just get the daily bonus from the romulan alert and buy the shield or something with the tradein for protomatter once I'm done if I'm not completely bored with the process by then. I was gonna say it was good for the daily bonus but huh what's this romulan alert never mind then.
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Captain's log, Day 3, Tzenkethi Preservation Front. Things not going well. Federation aggressors increasingly adapting effective anti-Tzenki tactics. Betrayed by Cryptic, expected game-breaking bug to remain extant at least three more months based on past indicators. Occasional victories when involuntary gravitational fleet formations reach critical mass, however impeded by crippling performance issues on simulation platform due to massively unoptimized stellar phenomena effects. Visual report attached. Archonex posted:Did they rehire Gozer at some point? Or did he leave an apprentice? All this Gozer stuff is amazing. Perhaps he left some time bombs in the game and this is why random years-old bugs inexplicably reappear with each new patch.
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Archonex posted:Or are goons just pissed that there's finally mobs that will gently caress over commonly preferred tactics? Pubbies get upset. Goons see opportunities. I remember having a great old time in the classic Khitomer Elite queues TBR'ing Donatra all over the map while my team screamed obscenities at me because they were out of range. Saying "Try to keep up!" or "Why aren't you helping?" was like pouring high octane fuel on a wood fire. For the record you can actually reach the planet on that map but it takes a while even impulse bursting. Which you will be doing while you TBR Donatra of course. (or would be doing if those borg queues weren't nearly as dead as the dino mothership attack STF)
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DancingShade posted:They don't even need to "fix" the old DHC builds. They work fine. It's just the content they deliver for players is entirely mindless enemy spam so of course people gravitate towards the broadside AOE FAW builds. I love cannons as much as the next guy, but it'd take more than an occasional HP sponge to make DHCs a good choice. Even with the original STFs you've got clouds of probes, spheres, and what have you spawning in and the guy with your same exact build running DBB/Omni FAW instead of cannons will help with all that too instead of being dead weight until the boss comes along.
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Mondian posted:I love cannons as much as the next guy, but it'd take more than an occasional HP sponge to make DHCs a good choice. Even with the original STFs you've got clouds of probes, spheres, and what have you spawning in and the guy with your same exact build running DBB/Omni FAW instead of cannons will help with all that too instead of being dead weight until the boss comes along. Too true. I love running cannons on my bugship, but I'm under no illusions on it, the FAW method of problem solving is much better.
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The problem with dual cannons is they're supposed to be this big pewpew things on ships that are supposed to swoop around and be cool like the defiant, while beams are for lumbering whales like the cruisers. The problem is that literally nothing in the game design actually supports this. The limited firing arc means that the idea way to use cannons is to sit and turret, while the most mobile ships in the games are the ones that use broadside beams and can just keep the throttle at max at all times and circle around stuff. And there's no... real way to solve this. They kind of had an opportunity to make escorts more useful with stuff like the pilot escort abilities or lock trajectory or whatever, but instead of making that universal abilities for the class they stuck them on specific ships or locked them behind specialist bridge officer skills. And even if they were universal, you'd still be better off with beams since you'd still have the original mobility advantages too. It's basically unsolveable without completely redesigning space combat from the ground up. Or nerfing beams into the ground or something. 
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DHC get an innate CrtD bonus, but that alone is not nearly enough to make up for the high opportunity cost. Beams just easily bridge the gap by always firing. That said, DHCs are the obvious choice for that decloaking, flanking, surgical alpha strike where you poo poo out a quarter million damage in one volley, but PVP is such a joke you can get by with a sloppy beam build and still pop anyone in a couple seconds without bothering with all that fancy piloting.
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Mondian posted:I love cannons as much as the next guy, but it'd take more than an occasional HP sponge to make DHCs a good choice. Even with the original STFs you've got clouds of probes, spheres, and what have you spawning in and the guy with your same exact build running DBB/Omni FAW instead of cannons will help with all that too instead of being dead weight until the boss comes along.
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Asimo posted:Cannons Make them get much more effective the closer you get could add a lot. It's in there a little, I think, but ramp it up. If the game or players could handle it, I'd make cannons permanently firing a narrow cone AoE rather than single target but eh. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Mondian posted:DHC get an innate CrtD bonus, but that alone is not nearly enough to make up for the high opportunity cost. Beams just easily bridge the gap by always firing. When CSV or CRF is active, the CrtD bonus on DHCs is removed for the same reason crit bonuses from accuracy overflow are removed when FAW is active: failing to understand or maintain their own scripting language.
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Just read that the trait from the NX refit (While this trait is slotted activating Beam: Fire at Will or Cannon: Scatter Volley will cause Beam: Overload and Cannon: Rapid Fire to do 50% additional damage for the next 30 seconds) will work with [over] modded beams, which seems absolutely hilarious and worth trying.
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I'm giving this game another shot after a long time away. I could use an invite. Fritz@Zoneman
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I can think of several ways to encourage Defiant-style strafing run cannon play but they all hinge on it also being more defensively beneficial to swoop around than to just sit there and be a warp-capable phaser turret, i.e. Asimo posted:It's basically unsolveable without completely redesigning space combat from the ground up. Or nerfing beams into the ground or something. Also g0del posted:There's other issues too. All the cannon boff abilities are one rank higher than the beam ones, so it's simply harder to fit crf3 or csv3 on a ship than it is to get bfaw3. The damage falloff used to be brutal on cannons, but at least they've fixed that. Honestly, they should just remove the restrictive firing arc on cannons. Sailing ships that used cannons could certainly broadside with them, so it shouldn't be immersion-breaking to let space ships do it too. Really ships should have the firing arcs, not weapons. Putting duals on a giant-rear end cruiser and getting the same arc as a zippy escort is pretty 
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Weird, I taught a boff beam overload iii but it's completely unusable, grayed out and doesn't appear in Available Skills at all: Same skill on another boff in the same station works fine. Tried restarting/changing maps/reslotting/training another skill/etc. Am I going to have to space poor ole Rokol? 
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I was on a Star Trek binge for the latter half of January, remembered I had played this game in its open beta yonks ago, and decided to try it out again since it was F2P. Coincidentally, I managed to rejoin on a double XP weekend and managed to level up pretty dang quickly; I enjoyed myself enough puttering through all the little missions and still am enjoying myself with it. Now I'm slowly trudging my way through the mid-50's, and I have to wonder, how do you guys get the literal millions of EC required to buy anything on the Exchange? I've been barely buying anything and recycling all the poo poo items I get and I only have like 750~k. Is it because of the Duty Officer/Admiralty/R&D stuff? I've hardly touched them.
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RubricMarine posted:I was on a Star Trek binge for the latter half of January, remembered I had played this game in its open beta yonks ago, and decided to try it out again since it was F2P. Coincidentally, I managed to rejoin on a double XP weekend and managed to level up pretty dang quickly; I enjoyed myself enough puttering through all the little missions and still am enjoying myself with it. Now I'm slowly trudging my way through the mid-50's, and I have to wonder, how do you guys get the literal millions of EC required to buy anything on the Exchange? I've been barely buying anything and recycling all the poo poo items I get and I only have like 750~k. Is it because of the Duty Officer/Admiralty/R&D stuff? I've hardly touched them. In short: Get a big pile of money, pay attention to the exchange, exploit any opportunity to make your pile bigger. You can farm omega particles right now with the anniversary event running and get a good start on your pile. Do admiralty and level your R&D it's very little extra effort to do. There's alot of other stuff you can do but it's long term effort to get a snowball rolling stuff so it might not be right for you if you just want to shoot some stuff and peace out again. You really don't need a lot of expensive poo poo to just run the content.
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Yeah apparently it was an oversight, according to the devs. I give it 50/50 odds on either being lovely coding with no playtesting as usual, or a change they thought they could sneak through and then quickly walked back when people complained. Considering Cryptic it's probably the former. The queues are probably still better sources of protomatter mark things though, if only because the battlezone takes ages with pubs.
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RubricMarine posted:how do you guys get the literal millions of EC required to buy anything on the Exchange? I've been barely buying anything and recycling all the poo poo items I get and I only have like 750~k. Is it because of the Duty Officer/Admiralty/R&D stuff? I've hardly touched them. Couple quick no effort small cost things to get started so you have the EC to move on to bigger things: - Look for training manuals on the exchange for skills that are popular, find one that doesn't have much supply at the moment, then R&D a couple of those and throw them up. Main material cost are PADDs, you can make them with dil or just buy them off the exchange for like 80k EC. You can sell the manuals for like 200k-400k. Don't make a ton of the same ones because you will get undercut, make your money then move onto another manual afterwards. - Even easier, buy skills from the trainer and sell those on the exchange. Popular ones sell for like 50k and cost you 2k. These only work because in the end the amount of profit you make is a pittance compared to what you could earn, so move on to better things like high level R&D and playing the exchange once you've got a bit of EC built up to do so comfortably.
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https://twitter.com/LaughingTrendy/status/827250303913177088 Goodbye to a way better CM than the game deserved. 
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super sweet best pal posted:https://twitter.com/LaughingTrendy/status/827250303913177088 She was the best. Our good friend Lootcritter is claiming PWE laid off a few staff today, which is very unfortunate if true.
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super sweet best pal posted:https://twitter.com/LaughingTrendy/status/827250303913177088 Only a matter of time. A seemingly well adjusted female in the stench pits of the STO forums? Yeah I'm not surprised she's looking to move on.
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She got 'promoted' to a more general senior CM position rather than just on sto so it's probably not just sto's toxicity for once. Shame though, she was a drat good CM and I hope she finds a good position elsewhere soon!
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super sweet best pal posted:https://twitter.com/LaughingTrendy/status/827250303913177088  You'll be missed trendy!
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Asimo posted:Yeah I suspect it's more PWE flagging in general or something. Does anyone even care about any of their games? I get the feeling STO's their biggest moneymaker, at least outside of China, and that sure doesn't say much. Monster Factory did a 2-part Champions Online video last week. I'm sure they think it's the big break they've been waiting for.
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That video doubled the Champions Online usercount. You can now count the online players with two hands.  God, ChampO is just sad. There's some really fun gameplay there but it's just been hosed every possible way and left to rot forever in maintenance mode.
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Asimo posted:That video doubled the Champions Online usercount. You can now count the online players with two hands. It's insane there's no good superhero MMOs right now. If there is one genre the market is ripe for, that's it Too bad everyone is stuck on generic swords and magic MMOs forever Hail Mr. Satan! fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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City of Heroes kind of underperformed (partly due to unrealistic expectations from NCSoft) and Champions Online was basically DOA (because Atari was laughably incompetent). DCUO was alright I guess? But I think also underperformed and is kind of in maintenance mode as well, if not as severely as ChampO. Considering there's never been an actual big breakout hit superhero MMO, considering how expensive MMO development is, and the genre is basically dying now that game companies have figured making a lovely MOBA or mobile game gets them the same amount of money for a fraction of the effort, it's not really a surprise there's no new superhero games in development. Still a goddamn shame though, and something that came about mostly through company politics and random chance.
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I don't play much anymore, but I am bummed to see they "laid off" Trendy. She can and will probably do better than what PWE has to offer.
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Asimo posted:City of Heroes kind of underperformed (partly due to unrealistic expectations from NCSoft) and Champions Online was basically DOA (because Atari was laughably incompetent). DCUO was alright I guess? But I think also underperformed and is kind of in maintenance mode as well, if not as severely as ChampO. DCUO is getting a complete state revamp this year, at least.
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I know some of you love the STO streamers/ youtubers doing patreon stuff. ValikinFX just set one up and it's glorious. $5 gets you "trade secrets" for EC and Dil production methods, and access to datamined content. https://www.patreon.com/Mrvalikin Most of the stuff he has is from people just throwing stuff/ ships at em. And he's stupid enough to not only be publicly advertising datamined content, he's selling it.
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Opened a few lock boxes for lobi. gently caress you'd need to spend a bit to start making money that way.
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So Is this one of those old MMOs that is pointless for new people to try out, or are there still people around to actually play with? I'm trying out a bunch of MMOs to see if any stick.
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drat Dirty Ape posted:So Is this one of those old MMOs that is pointless for new people to try out, or are there still people around to actually play with? I'm trying out a bunch of MMOs to see if any stick. Has a fanatically loyal player base because of the license and it probably prints money because they convinced people that spending $50 on a reskinned spaceship with slightly different stats counts as significant content. As far as goons go, far less active than historically but there always some playing. Enough to form queue groups even. Just be aware that PWE is a Chinese MMO publisher and set your freemium expectations accordingly.
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