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The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

I think at the end of all these timelines where they dictate how well things are, they need to add in "...and after over 5 years we have a broken tech demo with no trading, no planetary landing, no way to buy ships outside of real money, and an FPS arena death-match mode disconnected from everything else!"

Because clearly these guys need to brace for the long haul here. Like it's an investment for their grandkids future fun sort of thing, maybe. The list could be longer, but I think most people would expect the basics in place by now. Unless you're a Star Citizen hero. :allears:

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intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

Beet Wagon posted:

This might be the single most out-out-of-the-blue offtopic post in the history of the thread, and that's including a ten-page derail about marine biology and why sharks are actually cool and good.

I almost want to congratulate you.

what? That is the cig process and how CR is a rockstar.

Now get paid!

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

alf_pogs posted:

"nobody knows who derek smart is" - guy posting on a subreddit dedicated to him
Haha, god drat

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:



lol lethality, even you should know better than to demand this of the Crob

Uh oh. Pretty soon Lethality is going to make the logic jump that "I've been... lied to..." any day now.

Maybe he'll have one of those moments where soft music plays in the background as his mind wanders back in time to all the times Roberts himself said something was nearly done, or just needed a few more days after the deadline (never to be heard from again of course).

It's alright friend. You can realize you've been screwed over entirely without having to be a goon. Just ask yourself how many times you saw Chris Roberts play his own game like he actually knows what he's doing and was involved in its design in any shape or form. :shrug:

Don't let yourself think there is some twisted Us vs Them war going on here. There's just people getting screwed out of tons of money, and being lied to by a shyster. The only real war going on is how long Chris can convince people through hostile marketing that everything is perfectly fine, and no progress is good because look at this video!

Pupil to Planet was released in December of 2015. You're literally no closer today than you were in 2015 to doing anything in that video. Feel free to watch more of them too. There's hundreds and hundreds of promises that aren't happening. Be your own person, stud. I know you can do it; even without being a goonie goon. :3:

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

I actually agree with Lethality on something. :smithicide:

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

The Titanic posted:

Pupil to Planet was released in December of 2015. You're literally no closer today than you were in 2015 to doing anything in that video. Feel free to watch more of them too. There's hundreds and hundreds of promises that aren't happening. Be your own person, stud. I know you can do it; even without being a goonie goon. :3:

I posted this over on FDev over the weekend. It's remarkable.

====

With planets on the 3.0 menu, I thought I'd catalog and bookmark this for future reference.

10 For The Chairman EP 78 (May 2016) in which the discussion about procedurally generated planets, takes center stage and an hilarious turn.

Still not here. And it's almost as if all of these were just R&D tech demos designed to show the non-existent progress on this front...

"Nyx Landing Zone Preview" (Aug 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2YMlnn4Ngk

"Pupil To Planet" (Dec 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yLTm8DZ8s4

"Seamless procedural planetary landing gameplay" (Dec 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XSiww9ZO4

"Alpha 3.0 gamescom 2016 Gameplay" (Aug 2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1wX1Kk3Ajg

"Procedural Planets v2" (Oct 2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7yI

...and that sandworm on a planet (Oct 2016)

https://youtu.be/XuDj5v81Nd0?t=5120

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

D_Smart posted:

I posted this over on FDev over the weekend. It's remarkable.

====

With planets on the 3.0 menu, I thought I'd catalog and bookmark this for future reference.

10 For The Chairman EP 78 (May 2016) in which the discussion about procedurally generated planets, takes center stage and an hilarious turn.

Still not here. And it's almost as if all of these were just R&D tech demos designed to show the non-existent progress on this front...

"Nyx Landing Zone Preview" (Aug 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2YMlnn4Ngk

"Pupil To Planet" (Dec 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yLTm8DZ8s4

"Seamless procedural planetary landing gameplay" (Dec 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XSiww9ZO4

"Alpha 3.0 gamescom 2016 Gameplay" (Aug 2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1wX1Kk3Ajg

"Procedural Planets v2" (Oct 2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7yI

...and that sandworm on a planet (Oct 2016)

https://youtu.be/XuDj5v81Nd0?t=5120

You're practically writing the documentary for them. Good work commando.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


lethality is one bad day from joining us in the thread

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

ManofManyAliases posted:

You're practically writing the documentary for them. Good work commando.

Well, somebody has to "archive" all this :grin:

alf_pogs posted:

lethality is one bad day from joining us in the thread

That would totally epic. Then we can ban MoMa finally; as we won't need him for lols anymore. :lol::lol::lol:

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Mirificus posted:

"Someone needs to remind them that this is all going on in their forum, under their brand, and it's not good for their image to be associated with that level of toxicity. "


Hahaha, this I'd love to see. Can anyone not banned from /r/ds ask him to repost it?

Hobold
Jan 10, 2012


I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA
College Slice
I wonder if MoMAs claims he isn't really Toast is because he used to be, outed himself like a moron, and now different people have been assigned to that task. Thats why we get Angry MoMA and smug MoMA.


trucutru posted:

More like



:same:

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

peter gabriel posted:

It's OK Chris is saving it, haven't you heard?

when is Chris saving PC Gaming exactly?

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

starkebn posted:

when is Chris saving PC Gaming exactly?

All the time, he's doing it 24 / 7 all day every day

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Hobold posted:

I wonder if MoMAs claims he isn't really Toast is because he used to be, outed himself like a moron, and now different people have been assigned to that task. Thats why we get Angry MoMA and smug MoMA.

alternately, if we are looking for stability and consistency in an enthusiastic star citizen defender, we are probably barkin up the wrong tree

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

D_Smart posted:

I posted this over on FDev over the weekend. It's remarkable.

====

With planets on the 3.0 menu, I thought I'd catalog and bookmark this for future reference.

10 For The Chairman EP 78 (May 2016) in which the discussion about procedurally generated planets, takes center stage and an hilarious turn.

Still not here. And it's almost as if all of these were just R&D tech demos designed to show the non-existent progress on this front...

"Nyx Landing Zone Preview" (Aug 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2YMlnn4Ngk

"Pupil To Planet" (Dec 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yLTm8DZ8s4

"Seamless procedural planetary landing gameplay" (Dec 2015)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XSiww9ZO4

"Alpha 3.0 gamescom 2016 Gameplay" (Aug 2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1wX1Kk3Ajg

"Procedural Planets v2" (Oct 2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7yI

...and that sandworm on a planet (Oct 2016)

https://youtu.be/XuDj5v81Nd0?t=5120

You have catalogued everything far better than me. :)

But I hope people will go back and review the number of times they've been screwed over. It's in the hundreds or thousands by now. :monocle:

Honestly if Star Citizen came anywhere close to the promises, I'd totally buy into it. It's got "everything I've ever wanted".

I italicizes that quote from me because it's kind of important. I bet for a lot of people they can say the exact same thing. Do you know why you can say that, though?

Because Star Citizen never stopped promising, and promised everything everybody wanted but better.

That sounds soooo loving awesome. But the reality doesn't meet the promises, and we're over half a decade into this stuff, and it doesn't even look like the same game they advertised.

It's not a matter of "stick with it they need time to make the BDSSE!!" It's a matter where the vision that was sold is not anything like the product. :(

Star Citizen is that science fiction DCS flight simulator where you can actually walk around like Mass Effect and everything is usable and tactile like Elder Scrolls games, with huge fleet actions and your friends and you're all doing stuff right out of loving Star Wars and Firefly and beating the big empire while fending off aliens and mixing loving drinks in your hot tub!!!! *pant pant*

Guys. Really. It's the Best loving Idea that every kid who's ever had an idea for a game has had. It's unbelievable and awesome and hell, Star Citizen looks good in its own way. It really looks like they know what they're doing here.

They just don't. :( and can't. :( and it probably won't happen like this in our lifetime. :(

Not because nobody wants to, or has tried to, it just can't happen with computers today, and internet today. Nothing CIG has shown has given anybody a reason to believe they have the Magic ticket of knowledge and understanding of technology to build this thing. Maybe Rockstar some eon in the distant future???

The hardest part about life is admitting that you can't have something. No amount of hope or money is going to make it happen either. It just won't and can't.

CIG built itself and continues to prey upon people who can't admit "I can't". It's made them millions. And do you really know what that will eventually amount to?

I'll tell you, like a loving wizard of time and space:

Eventually you're going to be told this by the guys you hold the most dear, and it will break your heart. But... I apologize. Here it is:






























"we tried"

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard
https://twitter.com/SandiGardiner/status/831280484810256388
https://twitter.com/DisturbedJim83/status/831291721304547328

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFrGd0sAM8w

Sillybones
Aug 10, 2013

go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

This is one of the most pathetic and disgusting things I have ever seen.

DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

The Titanic posted:

...all in seamless twitch based MMO gameplay the likes of which never existed because the networked computers can't currently support it fast enough? And that's not even a tiny loving ounce of what's been promised.

This is all it took for me to put it all together. Because I have assumed that most of you are into the software industry in some fashion, I come to hear your opinions on the matter because I do not know that industry at all or what is acceptable or normal in a production setting. I always believe that you learn the most from the people that are on the job. To hear you discuss the subject in a "this is what is wrong with this project and here is the reason why", format rather than insults and name calling, is very cool and good .

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

peter gabriel posted:

All the time, he's doing it 24 / 7 all day every day

I'm so glad we've got someone like Chris-senpai saving us, he's so diligent and dreamy

uguu~~~~

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

MeLKoR posted:

Hahaha, this I'd love to see. Can anyone not banned from /r/ds ask him to repost it?

They're all about alt-facts apparently.

Basically, after I made it public that Sandi and Chris were in fact married, which as we all know they were hiding (and confirmed by several sources to the media), they got mad.

Then some guy went digging, and found his own proof in the form of Sandi's IMDB listings in which she included their children. He then linked those to the same children's appearance in the Star Citizen pitch video. He tweeted it, and I re-tweeted it. That was basically it.

Next thing you know, I'm being accused of doxxing, stalking, being the anti-Christ etc. You know, the usual bullshit they do when trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.

Shortly thereafter, in what was the beginning of a litany of epic self-own screw-ups, that glorified moron, Ortwin, sent me a cease & desist on 09/30/15.

I took one look at it, laughed, sent it to my attorneys in CA.

Wasting no time, a few days later, my attorneys shredded him in a response.

That was the end of that.

And we never heard from them about it again. We were hoping they would sue or file a complaint, thus giving me the "in" I was looking for in order to get them to provide backers with the financials for the project. But I think they suspected that, and just dropped the whole thing. Much like they've dropped every single legal threat they've ever made.

D_Smart fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Feb 14, 2017

Scruffyhawk
Jun 30, 2005

FHNNNNNNN
Ramrod XTreme
I miss the Thermidor thread.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Aahahahahah, this is such an epic slapdown

:discourse:

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Ever since 2.6.1 came out I can't read any of his posts without overwhelming feelings of hate and jealousy.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

alf_pogs posted:

lethality is one bad day from joining us in the thread

It warms my heart that maybe, just maybe he feels grief.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
If Lethality joins we best start planning a new place to go now because this place is hosed

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Sillybones posted:

This is one of the most pathetic and disgusting things I have ever seen.
Here, have at it!

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3806850&pagenumber=1

Inkel
Feb 19, 2004

College Slice
Stray cat who comes into my house for belly rubs and to pass out and sleep in peace.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

DapperDon posted:

This is all it took for me to put it all together. Because I have assumed that most of you are into the software industry in some fashion, I come to hear your opinions on the matter because I do not know that industry at all or what is acceptable or normal in a production setting. I always believe that you learn the most from the people that are on the job. To hear you discuss the subject in a "this is what is wrong with this project and here is the reason why", format rather than insults and name calling, is very cool and good .

Frankly you don't need experience in software development, anyone that has been around god's green earth for more than 4 years should have been able to spot this one out long ago.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Inkel posted:

Stray cat who comes into my house for belly rubs and to pass out and sleep in peace.



i love them

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

D_Smart posted:

They're all about alt-facts apparently.

Basically, after I made it public that Sandi and Chris were in fact married, which as we all know they were hiding (and confirmed by several sources to the media), they got mad.

Then some guy went digging, and found his own proof in the form of Sandi's IMDB listings in which she included their children. He then linked those to the same children's appearance in the Star Citizen pitch video. He tweeted it, and I re-tweeted it. That was basically it.

Next thing you know, I'm being accused of doxxing, stalking, being the anti-Christ etc. You know, the usual bullshit they do when trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.

Shortly thereafter, in what was the beginning of a litany of epic self-own screw-ups, that glorified moron, Ortwin, sent me a cease & desist on 09/30/15.

I took one look at it, laughed, sent it to my attorneys in CA.

Wasting no time, a few days later, my attorneys shredded him in a response.

That was the end of that.

And we never heard from them about it again. We were hoping they would sue or file a complaint, thus giving me the "in" I was looking for in order to get them to provide backers with the financials for the project. But I think they suspected that, and just dropped the whole thing. Much like they've dropped every single legal threat they've ever made.

Frankly what I saw were a lot of whales angry at the fact that the sexy gamergirl that was totally available and they could maybe one day meet on a con and sweep of the floor with a demonstration of their undying love was actually married to their liege lord and thus irrevocably out of reach due to the laws of courtly love.
Friendzoned once again! And it's all DS' fault! :argh:

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

neonbregna
Aug 20, 2007
Word on the street is that this game is good and the warlord is into nipple play. Confirm or deny.

neonbregna
Aug 20, 2007
What if the "termination" of developer Ben lesbian is a false flag and he is actually a deep cover mole operating under the moma alias. Trust no one

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

A dumb question for a very long thread: is there any line do you think Stat Citizen could cross to actually make people think, "no, gently caress it, we've been had?"

Like, the "Planet Simulation" is a reskin of Dune 2: the Building of a Dynasty? Or maybe the Planet Simulation once you leave the first area is just 1992's Return To Zork?

EmesiS
Feb 5, 2016

Am I wrong to assume Bens wrath is an odor?

TrustmeImLegit
Jan 14, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

EmesiS posted:

Am I wrong to assume Bens wrath is an odor?

Its his Aspect

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Inkel posted:

Stray cat who comes into my house for belly rubs and to pass out and sleep in peace.



:3:



Nebakenezzer posted:

A dumb question for a very long thread: is there any line do you think Stat Citizen could cross to actually make people think, "no, gently caress it, we've been had?"

Like, the "Planet Simulation" is a reskin of Dune 2: the Building of a Dynasty? Or maybe the Planet Simulation once you leave the first area is just 1992's Return To Zork?

There are plenty of people that will never acknowledge they were played. They'll simply blame Derek and the Smarties for ruining a beautiful dream.

MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Feb 14, 2017

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

D_Smart posted:

Well, somebody has to "archive" all this :grin:


That would totally epic. Then we can ban MoMa finally; as we won't need him for lols anymore. :lol::lol::lol:

You'll always have me for the lolz.

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neonbregna
Aug 20, 2007

TrustmeImLegit posted:

Its his Aspect

It's why I posted that sandy would not tolerate his presence after learning they would share an office

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