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OldTennisCourt posted:That Branco is basically "fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck everything is going to poo poo, Trump's gonna get impeached gently caress gently caress gently caress uh uh uh LIBERALS ARE GAY GROSS LOSERS WITH NO JOBS! oh gently caress oh gently caress oh gently caress" Pewdiepie is an anti-Semite?
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 21:51 |
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santanotreal posted:Pewdiepie is an anti-Semite? Not really. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/13/pewdiepie-youtube-star-disney-antisemitic-videos quote:He said that his comments were jokes that have been taken out of context and that the video with the banner was created to show “how crazy the modern world is”. He used freelance marketplace Fiverr to hire two men in India to make the offensive sign.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 21:54 |
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I thought Trump supporters were the ones with no jobs due to the coal mine being shut down and that's why they voted Trump? At least that's the narrative!
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 21:55 |
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OldTennisCourt posted:
I like how AskTrumpSupporters is literally ignoring questions about Flynn atm
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 21:57 |
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I haven't frequented this thread in a while, but does anyone have any link to any of the amazing edits done to Glenn Mccoys infamous Obama bashing fetuses cartoon?
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 21:58 |
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BarbarianElephant posted:I thought Trump supporters were the ones with no jobs due to the coal mine being shut down and that's why they voted Trump? At least that's the narrative!
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:06 |
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Johnny Walker posted:They also managed to pack his rallies during the election, even on weekdays during working hours, if you'll recall. That was because Obama had taken their jobs with their guns, but Trump's already fixed everything. Clearly.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:07 |
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Is it wrong that I think this is a good cartoon about leftists abandoning symbols of dignity, solidarity, and labor and instead obsessing over identity politics?
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:08 |
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Fangz posted:Oh, I was thinking it was a slam on Trump AND the right wing media. Dudes not labelled. he's the person we are expected to identify with.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:09 |
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Not really. On the other hand he's been making anti-semetic "jokes" for months and his favourite punchlines are "rape" and "big black dicks". quote:It would be really nice if people could please stop claiming that it took an antisemitic joke for Disney to drop PewDiePie despite all his prior racist and misogynistic content.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:10 |
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"Roohullah and Juhaynah" disgusts me because it's not even trying to be clever, or a joke. Might as well just say "durka durka" instead if you're appealing to the people who smirk at vaguely ethnic gibberish. e: Rohammed and Jululate A HUNGRY MOUTH fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:On the other hand he's been making anti-semetic "jokes" for months and his favourite punchlines are "rape" and "big black dicks". And of course he will just say it's a joke and clearly should be taken as such which is the worst argument for having really lovely opinions.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:17 |
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Kopijeger posted:Lucky Ducky having a green head and brown body in most comics suggests that he is supposed to be a (male) mallard. It's makeup. See, in nature, female birds have drab camouflage colors and try to stay hidden from predators because they've got to take care of their eggs and chicks; whereas male birds have colorful plumage to seduce female birds. But here this cartoon duck is a prostitute, so she's got to make her plumage colorful to seduce customers, and as a duck her idea of a sexy color is green. It's all very logical. Innocent people were murdered! LOL!
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:17 |
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Green child yearns for death
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:17 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:On the other hand he's been making anti-semetic "jokes" for months and his favourite punchlines are "rape" and "big black dicks". Perhaps, but it's all seemingly done in the spirit of "isn't it CRAZY how Nazi stuff is relevant again?" I've always thought he was annoying and never watched any of his videos, but I'll draw the line at calling him an anti-semite based on some dumb jokes. Just because a Nazi website thinks he agrees with them ideologically and lays claim to him doesn't make it any more valid than when conservatives used to think The Colbert Report was being serious.
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Arglebargle III posted:Is it wrong that I think this is a good cartoon about leftists abandoning symbols of dignity, solidarity, and labor and instead obsessing over identity politics? Yeah, it's possible to obsess over identity politics but as long as you are not merely trying to have a sufficiently diverse ruling class, you are cool w/ me.
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santanotreal posted:And of course he will just say it's a joke and clearly should be taken as such which is the worst argument for having really lovely opinions. I've head the exact same line from people who were trying to figure out how much racism they could get away with with present company. The WSJ article on him said they found at least 9 instances of him saying nazi poo poo in the last year.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:19 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Is it wrong that I think this is a good cartoon about leftists abandoning symbols of dignity, solidarity, and labor and instead obsessing over identity politics? Yes. In fact, people whining about "identity politics" are mostly obnoxious white dudes trying to ignore problems facing any demographic other than their own, and if you think the Garrison SJW strawman is an accurate portrayal of contemporary leftists you should maybe talk to some actual leftists.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:20 |
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Shouting a meme and calling it humor is a disease.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:20 |
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Perhaps, but it's all seemingly done in the spirit of "isn't it CRAZY how Nazi stuff is relevant again?" I've always thought he was annoying and never watched any of his videos, but I'll draw the line at calling him an anti-semite based on some dumb jokes. Just because a Nazi website thinks he agrees with them ideologically and lays claim to him doesn't make it any more valid than when conservatives used to think The Colbert Report was being serious. He says nazi poo poo , he's done 9 videos with explicit anti-semitic "jokes" in them this year.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:24 |
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At what point did paying people to say "Hitler did nothing wrong" and to hold up signs that say "Death to all jews" no longer become a red flag?
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:26 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:At what point did paying people to say "Hitler did nothing wrong" and to hold up signs that say "Death to all jews" no longer become a red flag? 2016/17
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tyblazitar posted:Yes. In fact, people whining about "identity politics" are mostly obnoxious white dudes trying to ignore problems facing any demographic other than their own, and if you think the Garrison SJW strawman is an accurate portrayal of contemporary leftists you should maybe talk to some actual leftists. Way to immediately turn this around into whining white dudes and no-true-leftist. Is it wrong to worry about class solidarity dropping out of the political left's platform? You may recall there were some nasty fights within the Democratic party just recently about class messages versus identity messages.
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Improbable Lobster posted:He says nazi poo poo , he's done 9 videos with explicit anti-semitic "jokes" in them this year. You can keep writing "jokes" in quotation marks but that doesn't stop them from being jokes. Terrible jokes no doubt, but this is a dumbass YouTube celebrity and I wouldn't expect any quality satire from him. For instance: quote:August 7, 2016: PewDiePie, wearing a Make America Great Again hat, begins his video with a swastika and other Nazi imagery, and uses a photo of Hitler as a segue between clips Pretty obviously a joke equating Trump with Hitler. quote:September 24, 2016: In a video criticising YouTube policy, he shows a clip of Hitler giving a speech Youtube lawyers are being Nazis. Boring, played out joke but still a joke. The rest of the instances seem similar. I don't buy him as some Richard Spencer type who's secretly harboring neo-Nazi ideology and then denies it in public on account of it being unpalatable. It seems more like he does them as exaggeration or to point out what he regards as an absurdity, then people see Nazi imagery and either strip it of context or approach it from the position that Nazi imagery is too serious to ever be used in jokes which is a different argument.
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Arglebargle III posted:Way to immediately turn this around into whining white dudes and no-true-leftist. Is it wrong to worry about class solidarity dropping out of the political left's platform? You may recall there were some nasty fights within the Democratic party just recently about class messages versus identity messages. Oh sorry, I thought you were talking about leftists, not the Democratic party.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:You can keep writing "jokes" in quotation marks but that doesn't stop them from being jokes. Terrible jokes no doubt, but this is a dumbass YouTube celebrity and I wouldn't expect any quality satire from him. For instance: Ah yes, ironic racists are never outed as actual racists, especially not on the internet.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Perhaps, but it's all seemingly done in the spirit of "isn't it CRAZY how Nazi stuff is relevant again?" I've always thought he was annoying and never watched any of his videos, but I'll draw the line at calling him an anti-semite based on some dumb jokes. Just because a Nazi website thinks he agrees with them ideologically and lays claim to him doesn't make it any more valid than when conservatives used to think The Colbert Report was being serious. Yeah, he's not a nazi anti-semite, and I wish the people would stop using labels like that so lightly. It's just lowest-denominator shock humor. It doesn't even qualify as a joke. I'm not going to defend that garbage, but I'm not going to pretend that he's ideologically Frank Ancona either. It's the kind of stuff like black jokes or dead baby jokes that we'd tell in middle school because since we hadn't developed any sense of creative humor yet, we went for things that made us surprised and what we couldn't say in front of our parents. The kind of stuff I'd roll my eyes and slap me silly for saying if I could go back in time. There was a story a while ago about the game Bulletstorm. If you never played it, it's a fun shooter and has professional voice actors cussing like sailors and Jennifer Hale calling Steve Blum a "suicidal limp-dick retard." The largely Polish development team wondered why there was a backlash against the language (the script was by an American) and it wasn't until some of the devs were handed Polish translations of the scripts that they were like "Oh yikes" and realized that while you may grasp the words, you don't always grasp the context. As a personal example, we had to sit a Korean kid down at work one time to seriously get him to stop saying the word "gently caress" around customers and higher-ups. He had only ever heard the word used a million times in movies back home, so he just assumed it was a word that we just said all the time and had to find the equivalent in his language to get him to understand what he was doing at work wasn't cool or something that he really would have wanted to do if he was more aware of it. I really think Pewdie ran into that problem. He had to be funny and entertaining in a second language without really getting how to use that language for humor. But saying shocking stuff got young males laughing at him screaming rape and Jew because that's what they wanted and it was easy for him, but I bet if he caught his kid watching similar stuff in Swedish then he'd have a different attitude towards it.
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"Gee whiz i wonder if this guy that keeps calling for the death of jews and saying that Hitler did nothing wrong so much that it highly impressed the biggest white supremacist on the internet could possibly be a racist?" Like motherfucker, the alt-right showed without a doubt that the majority of "ironic" racism simply isn't.
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Plan Z posted:Yeah, he's not a nazi anti-semite, and I wish the people would stop using labels like that so lightly. It's just lowest-denominator shock humor. It doesn't even qualify as a joke. I'm not going to defend that garbage, but I'm not going to pretend that he's ideologically Frank Ancona either. It's the kind of stuff like black jokes or dead baby jokes that we'd tell in middle school because since we hadn't developed any sense of creative humor yet, we went for things that made us surprised and what we couldn't say in front of our parents. The kind of stuff I'd roll my eyes and slap me silly for saying if I could go back in time. I agree with some of the stuff you're saying here, but not the language barrier thing. Being Swedish is not an impediment to knowing what rape and antisemitism is, especially considering lots of English native speakers use the same kind of "humor". But yeah, making some dick who is edgy on the internet to entertain literal children up to be an actual nazi is pretty far-fetched. Question the effect of his words all you like, but you'll need a lot stronger proof before ascribing that kind of intent to them.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:51 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Way to immediately turn this around into whining white dudes and no-true-leftist. Is it wrong to worry about class solidarity dropping out of the political left's platform? You may recall there were some nasty fights within the Democratic party just recently about class messages versus identity messages. Only one side is asking for the other to be dropped, unless you see a $12 minimum wage as an unforgivable betrayal of the working class.
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tyblazitar posted:I agree with some of the stuff you're saying here, but not the language barrier thing. Being Swedish is not an impediment to knowing what rape and antisemitism is, especially considering lots of English native speakers use the same kind of "humor". How much does the intent matter when you're consistently exposing children to nazi imagery and ideology
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Arglebargle III posted:Way to immediately turn this around into whining white dudes and no-true-leftist. Is it wrong to worry about class solidarity dropping out of the political left's platform? You may recall there were some nasty fights within the Democratic party just recently about class messages versus identity messages. The democratic party hasn't once ever cared about class solidary as a party platform.
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Improbable Lobster posted:"Gee whiz i wonder if this guy that keeps calling for the death of jews and saying that Hitler did nothing wrong so much that it highly impressed the biggest white supremacist on the internet could possibly be a racist?" Be as sarcastic as you want, your underlying point is unconvincing. There's a big difference between actual Nazis and internet edgelords and I'm not about to start declaring people to be white nationalists based on dumb gag videos.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:55 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:How much does the intent matter when you're consistently exposing children to nazi imagery and ideology Not much, and I'm not defending him, that kind of humor doesn't exactly help the current situation, especially when it's received in that way by actual nazis. That being said, I think this is more a case of "internet shouty man surrounded by edgy teenagers embraces increasingly politically incorrect humor without considering the possibly harmful repercussions", which while lovely, is at least in my book categorically different from earnestly and intentionally advocating and working towards genocide.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:57 |
wait didn't pewdiepie pay some dude hold up a sign saying "hitler did nothing wrong signed, an idiot" or something? Dumb joke but i don't think that's exactly racist. Unless he did something else since then?
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:59 |
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What if instead, pewdiepie kept cutting to pig poop balls in his videos, and dressed up as a big pig scrotum with a turd lying on it. I bet people wouldn't be saying he was a Nazi then, huh. Makes you think.
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albany academy posted:Dudes not labelled. he's the person we are expected to identify with. I identify with the woman going
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 23:02 |
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I'm going to repost this so people who have you on ignore can see it too
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Duke Igthorn posted:I'm going to repost this so people who have you on ignore can see it too c'mon, let's all participate
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