OldTennisCourt posted:

That Branco is basically "fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck everything is going to poo poo, Trump's gonna get impeached gently caress gently caress gently caress uh uh uh LIBERALS ARE GAY GROSS LOSERS WITH NO JOBS! oh gently caress oh gently caress oh gently caress"

The Alt-Right meltdown is amazing. The Donald is melting down and saying Pewdiepie is their new God because he's being attacked for being an anti-semite. They're saying Wolf Blitzer is a child molester and using photos of Obama with Jared from Subway as evidence of a vast pedophile conspiracy.

They're losing what little is left of their minds.

santanotreal posted:

Pewdiepie is an anti-Semite?

quote:

He said that his comments were jokes that have been taken out of context and that the video with the banner was created to show “how crazy the modern world is”. He used freelance marketplace Fiverr to hire two men in India to make the offensive sign.

“I think it’s important to say something and I want to make one thing clear: I am in no way supporting any kind of hateful attitudes,” he said. “Though this was not my intention, I understand that these jokes were ultimately offensive.”

“As laughable as it is to believe that I might actually endorse these people, to anyone unsure on my standpoint regarding hate-based groups: No, I don’t support these people in any way.”

OldTennisCourt posted:

The Alt-Right meltdown is amazing. The Donald is melting down and saying Pewdiepie is their new God because he's being attacked for being an anti-semite. They're saying Wolf Blitzer is a child molester and using photos of Obama with Jared from Subway as evidence of a vast pedophile conspiracy.

BarbarianElephant posted:

I thought Trump supporters were the ones with no jobs due to the coal mine being shut down and that's why they voted Trump? At least that's the narrative!

Johnny Walker posted:

They also managed to pack his rallies during the election, even on weekdays during working hours, if you'll recall.

Trogdos! posted:

3

Fangz posted:

Oh, I was thinking it was a slam on Trump AND the right wing media.

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Not really.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/13/pewdiepie-youtube-star-disney-antisemitic-videos

quote:

It would be really nice if people could please stop claiming that it took an antisemitic joke for Disney to drop PewDiePie despite all his prior racist and misogynistic content.

PewDiePie has expressed antisemitic and Nazi sentiments in his videos long before this incident with fiverr.

August 7, 2016: PewDiePie, wearing a Make America Great Again hat, begins his video with a swastika and other Nazi imagery, and uses a photo of Hitler as a segue between clips

September 24, 2016: In a video criticising YouTube policy, he shows a clip of Hitler giving a speech

October 15, 2016: PewDiePie posts swastikas drawn by his fans

December 8, 2016: PewDiePie wears a brown military uniform while watching a Hitler clip at the end of his video

Antisemitic website the Daily Stormer has also given PewDiePie praise for Nazi imagery in his videos, writing:

“PewDiePie is /ourguy/.

This latest video is unapologetically full-Nazi.

The guy has 52 million subscribers, compared to the number 2 YouTuber that has 30 million. He is arguably the most watched person on the planet.

And he is pushing hardcore GTKRWN materials.

In this video, he calls out the Jews for killing Jesus, and points out several times that Hitler did nothing wrong.

At the very least, he is making the masses comfortable with our ideas.

I hope he keeps doing this – staying chill, I mean. Not going too far. I think he’s aware that he’s eventually going to get banned – if he wasn’t ready for that, he wouldn’t be calling out the Jews head-on like this.”


So please understand that he’s targeted Jews in the past without major outrage or punishment. He’s used Nazi imagery as a joke in his videos before. The “death to all Jews” video that caused outrage wasn’t the first antisemitic video PewDiePie posted. He’s also racist and misogynistic and he should have been called out on these things and dropped a long time ago.

But his antisemitic content neither began nor ended with the Fiverr video.

Source: http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/14/youtube-also-cuts-ties-with-pewdiepie-over-nazi-imagery-in-videos-6448782/#ixzz4YksS7Txa

Trogdos! posted:

3

Improbable Lobster posted:

On the other hand he's been making anti-semetic "jokes" for months and his favourite punchlines are "rape" and "big black dicks".

Kopijeger posted:

Lucky Ducky having a green head and brown body in most comics suggests that he is supposed to be a (male) mallard.

Is "Duckella" actually Ducky in drag, or did Bolling make a mistake?

Trogdos! posted:

3

Improbable Lobster posted:

On the other hand he's been making anti-semetic "jokes" for months and his favourite punchlines are "rape" and "big black dicks".

Arglebargle III posted:

Is it wrong that I think this is a good cartoon about leftists abandoning symbols of dignity, solidarity, and labor and instead obsessing over identity politics?

santanotreal posted:

And of course he will just say it's a joke and clearly should be taken as such which is the worst argument for having really lovely opinions.

Arglebargle III posted:

Is it wrong that I think this is a good cartoon about leftists abandoning symbols of dignity, solidarity, and labor and instead obsessing over identity politics?

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Perhaps, but it's all seemingly done in the spirit of "isn't it CRAZY how Nazi stuff is relevant again?" I've always thought he was annoying and never watched any of his videos, but I'll draw the line at calling him an anti-semite based on some dumb jokes. Just because a Nazi website thinks he agrees with them ideologically and lays claim to him doesn't make it any more valid than when conservatives used to think The Colbert Report was being serious.

Improbable Lobster posted:

At what point did paying people to say "Hitler did nothing wrong" and to hold up signs that say "Death to all jews" no longer become a red flag?

tyblazitar posted:

Yes. In fact, people whining about "identity politics" are mostly obnoxious white dudes trying to ignore problems facing any demographic other than their own, and if you think the Garrison SJW strawman is an accurate portrayal of contemporary leftists you should maybe talk to some actual leftists.

Improbable Lobster posted:

He says nazi poo poo , he's done 9 videos with explicit anti-semitic "jokes" in them this year.

quote:

August 7, 2016: PewDiePie, wearing a Make America Great Again hat, begins his video with a swastika and other Nazi imagery, and uses a photo of Hitler as a segue between clips

quote:

September 24, 2016: In a video criticising YouTube policy, he shows a clip of Hitler giving a speech

Arglebargle III posted:

Way to immediately turn this around into whining white dudes and no-true-leftist. Is it wrong to worry about class solidarity dropping out of the political left's platform? You may recall there were some nasty fights within the Democratic party just recently about class messages versus identity messages.

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

You can keep writing "jokes" in quotation marks but that doesn't stop them from being jokes. Terrible jokes no doubt, but this is a dumbass YouTube celebrity and I wouldn't expect any quality satire from him. For instance:


Pretty obviously a joke equating Trump with Hitler.


Youtube lawyers are being Nazis. Boring, played out joke but still a joke. The rest of the instances seem similar. I don't buy him as some Richard Spencer type who's secretly harboring neo-Nazi ideology and then denies it in public on account of it being unpalatable. It seems more like he does them as exaggeration or to point out what he regards as an absurdity, then people see Nazi imagery and either strip it of context or approach it from the position that Nazi imagery is too serious to ever be used in jokes which is a different argument.

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Perhaps, but it's all seemingly done in the spirit of "isn't it CRAZY how Nazi stuff is relevant again?" I've always thought he was annoying and never watched any of his videos, but I'll draw the line at calling him an anti-semite based on some dumb jokes. Just because a Nazi website thinks he agrees with them ideologically and lays claim to him doesn't make it any more valid than when conservatives used to think The Colbert Report was being serious.

Plan Z posted:

Yeah, he's not a nazi anti-semite, and I wish the people would stop using labels like that so lightly. It's just lowest-denominator shock humor. It doesn't even qualify as a joke. I'm not going to defend that garbage, but I'm not going to pretend that he's ideologically Frank Ancona either. It's the kind of stuff like black jokes or dead baby jokes that we'd tell in middle school because since we hadn't developed any sense of creative humor yet, we went for things that made us surprised and what we couldn't say in front of our parents. The kind of stuff I'd roll my eyes and slap me silly for saying if I could go back in time.

There was a story a while ago about the game Bulletstorm. If you never played it, it's a fun shooter and has professional voice actors cussing like sailors and Jennifer Hale calling Steve Blum a "suicidal limp-dick retard." The largely Polish development team wondered why there was a backlash against the language (the script was by an American) and it wasn't until some of the devs were handed Polish translations of the scripts that they were like "Oh yikes" and realized that while you may grasp the words, you don't always grasp the context. As a personal example, we had to sit a Korean kid down at work one time to seriously get him to stop saying the word "gently caress" around customers and higher-ups. He had only ever heard the word used a million times in movies back home, so he just assumed it was a word that we just said all the time and had to find the equivalent in his language to get him to understand what he was doing at work wasn't cool or something that he really would have wanted to do if he was more aware of it.

I really think Pewdie ran into that problem. He had to be funny and entertaining in a second language without really getting how to use that language for humor. But saying shocking stuff got young males laughing at him screaming rape and Jew because that's what they wanted and it was easy for him, but I bet if he caught his kid watching similar stuff in Swedish then he'd have a different attitude towards it.

Arglebargle III posted:

Way to immediately turn this around into whining white dudes and no-true-leftist. Is it wrong to worry about class solidarity dropping out of the political left's platform? You may recall there were some nasty fights within the Democratic party just recently about class messages versus identity messages.

tyblazitar posted:

I agree with some of the stuff you're saying here, but not the language barrier thing. Being Swedish is not an impediment to knowing what rape and antisemitism is, especially considering lots of English native speakers use the same kind of "humor".

But yeah, making some dick who is edgy on the internet to entertain literal children up to be an actual nazi is pretty far-fetched. Question the effect of his words all you like, but you'll need a lot stronger proof before ascribing that kind of intent to them.

Arglebargle III posted:

Way to immediately turn this around into whining white dudes and no-true-leftist. Is it wrong to worry about class solidarity dropping out of the political left's platform? You may recall there were some nasty fights within the Democratic party just recently about class messages versus identity messages.

Improbable Lobster posted:

"Gee whiz i wonder if this guy that keeps calling for the death of jews and saying that Hitler did nothing wrong so much that it highly impressed the biggest white supremacist on the internet could possibly be a racist?"

Like motherfucker, the alt-right showed without a doubt that the majority of "ironic" racism simply isn't.

Improbable Lobster posted:

How much does the intent matter when you're consistently exposing children to nazi imagery and ideology

albany academy posted:

Dudes not labelled. he's the person we are expected to identify with.

Tei posted:

Duke Igthorn posted:

I'm going to repost this so people who have you on ignore can see it too