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Powaqoatse posted:that's also partially why some lands were and are still divided into herreder/hundreds. that was the amount of farms/people that could support (grain, money, etc upkeep) an armored knight with all the poo poo he needed. no, it was originally an administrative unit for a hundred households knight's fee was the amount of land required to support a knight with all he needed
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Hogge Wild posted:no, it was originally an administrative unit for a hundred households gently caress sorry ive mostly looked at stuff from ~1600 and on & i guess i read that factoid somewhere and took it for true like an idiot.
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they gotta be super old though if there were only 100 households in a herred. in the 1600s there's at least a thousand in a herred.
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Powaqoatse posted:they gotta be super old though if there were only 100 households in a herred. in the 1600s there's at least a thousand in a herred. yeah, lands were divided into hundreds in the early or high middle ages , and the name stayed even after population increased
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Hogge Wild posted:yeah, lands were divided into hundreds in the early or high middle ages , and the name stayed even after population increased makes sense yea for a month now ive been organizing 25,000 scans of the area one part of my family comes from. I could have done it quicker but its exhausting as hell to just sit and look at picture and say ok these all go in this folder & these all over here go in that one. some day ill be finished w that though & then i can start writing my book about all the named persons who lived in my hometown from ~1488 ("official" founding year no poo poo) to 1814. im gonna become so not rich when i publish it 15 years from now.
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Alhazred posted:What's more illegible than a dane? A dane trying to speak norwegian. https://youtu.be/ywSnhMaaWIM
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its true. danish is a garbage language for garbage people this historical documentary describes the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk
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Historical crosspost:Powaqoatse posted:Danish polar explorer Peter Freuchen was once trapped in his tent. They'd all set up tents and gone to sleep on the ice, but a storm came overnight and covered the tents & froze the snow so when they woke up, they were basically encased in tiny tent-shaped rooms in the ice.
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Zero One posted:A Møøse once bit my sister... Or as the danes would say: A halvfjers krinkelkankel once bit my tøseguffe.
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Fem snese gevirdyr gnavede mine forældres søskendebarns underarmben af
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Powaqoatse posted:makes sense yea sounds like a cool project
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Hogge Wild posted:sounds like a cool project thanks  ive been working on it for 15 years just gathering & indexing sources with "nothing" to show for it so its probably gonna feel weird once i actually have to start writing it out. idk if you know this thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3777244
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Powaqoatse posted:thanks i'll have to check that thread
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Here's what Plutarch had to say about the Cimbri:quote:The barbarians, however, came on with such insolence and contempt of their enemies, that to show their strength and courage, rather than out of any necessity, they went naked in the showers of snow, and through the ice and deep snow climbed up to the tops of the hills, and from thence, placing their broad shields under their bodies, let themselves slide from the precipices along their vast slippery descents.
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the fyrd was mainly minor gentry but certainly included the wealthier peasants and uh levies very definitely happened; the peasantry generally couldn't muster the tax to avoid service. the conscription period was three months specifically to avoid cutting significantly into Farming Time. serfs wouldn't have been levied but england did not have nearly as many knights as france and so was heavily reliant upon levies (as well as mercs) for the duration of the 100 years war
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Powaqoatse posted:During the Danish 1980s recession, the right wing govt implemented a whole complex of laws that are called kartoffelkuren ~ "the potato diet", as in we all better tighten the belt and eat more potatos cause nobody can afford meat irl. Nah that sounds about right. My parents paid something like 13-14% on their first house here in Canada in the 80s, and that was when it was on the decline. Just checking it mortgage rates peaked briefly at like 21% lol. I mean it's still high but houses were a hell of a lot cheaper back then. Paying 15% when the average house is like 160k equivalent sucks. If it was on the half a million plus it is today it's bonkers.
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RagnarokZ posted:Potatoes generally have a higher yield per square meter, are more resistant to the weather and are generally just easier to manage than corn. Also, if your medieval/feudal lord demands your taxes in corn/wheat/whatever, you can worry a whole lot less that you'll run out of food after his slice of the pie is accounted for. Especially if your crop had a bad year, or he decides to be a dick and increase his slice of your harvest, it's OK because nobody wants those nightshades! (source: one of the What If? books had a story on how potatoes drastically influenced history and historians shudder to think how things would be different if they weren't a thing) MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 00:39 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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Powaqoatse posted:its true. danish is a garbage language for garbage people kamelåså --an Uti vår hage classic
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Nah that sounds about right. My parents paid something like 13-14% on their first house here in Canada in the 80s, and that was when it was on the decline. It may seem lovely that mortgages were that high, but you could also earn like 7% on a savings account and 3% on a checking. Not to mention CD rates in the double digits. Good luck getting anywhere near that without surrendering control of your cash for 10+ years or subjecting yourself to market risk.
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MisterBibs posted:Also, if your medieval/feudal lord demands your taxes in corn/wheat/whatever, you can worry a whole lot less that you'll run out of food after his slice of the pie is accounted for. Especially if your crop had a bad year, or he decides to be a dick and increase his slice of your harvest, it's OK because nobody wants those nightshades!
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PT Barnum was over 60 when he started his circus. The thing he is most well known for is pretty much a footnote in his life.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:PT Barnum was over 60 when he started his circus. The thing he is most well known for is pretty much a footnote in his life. P. T. Barnum posted:I am a showman by profession...and all the gilding shall make nothing else of me
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Nessus posted:I thought it was more that you could store the taters in the ground where they would be harder to locate, unless you really wanted to go digging up a guy's field. It's possible; it's been a while since I read the book.
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Solice Kirsk posted:It may seem lovely that mortgages were that high, but you could also earn like 7% on a savings account and 3% on a checking. Not to mention CD rates in the double digits. Good luck getting anywhere near that without surrendering control of your cash for 10+ years or subjecting yourself to market risk. It's also important to remember that there were still many active labor unions in the United States prior to the administration of President Ronald Reagan; he basically gave companies a blank check to do whatever to unions without federal oversight or adjudication. When there were unions, workers would receive annual COLA pay increases based upon inflation. When inflation went up, it helped such wage earners because their wages increased, even when their existing debt obligations remained static! The reason that the government works to suppress inflation is that inflation eats away the value of lender's held assets. You know what to do!
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Its almost as if deregulation lead to toxic predatory lending practices that can't be sustained. Don't worry, I'm sure there won't be another huge financial collapse now that we've been trying it again.
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Johann Peter Willebrand in his 1758 guide for travellers posted:Don't argue with an Italian, don't gamble with a Frenchman and don't drink with a German Words to live by
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Inca taxes were a pretty neat system. If you were an average subsistence farmer, you'd start the season by plowing the fields of the elderly, sick, widowed, and those belonging to the families with soldiers in military service. Then you'd take care of your own fields. Then you'd take care of the nobles' fields. Then you'd take care of the government's fields. Repeat once the harvest would happen. So you'd keep all the stuff from your own fields, and the government would keep and put in storehouses all the stuff from their fields. They'd dole that out to people who needed it, either to people in case of natural disaster or to feed the soldiers. Then they'd put you to work doing huge public works projects. Building roads, building bridges, building temples, digging in a mine, maybe picking up a spear or a sling and fighting in a civil war, whatever. They'd all rotate too throughout the year, so you'd get to do a bit of everything. Urgh, hauling these rocks SUCKS but I've only got to do it for another 3 weeks so no big deal. Depending on your perspective it was either a huge scale socialist success story or an oppressive autocracy. Inca soldiers were pretty gnarly, even to the armored and sometimes mounted Spanish conquistadors. They said that a well aimed rock from a sling at close range would put a dent in their armor just like a shot from an arquebus. One of Pizarro's brothers got a glancing blow with one in the jaw, and his face swelled up such that he couldn't put his helmet back on. The civil war just before the Spanish arrived is scaled like a battle out of Lord of the Rings, with hundreds of thousands of people being killed in a short period of time.
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canyoneer posted:The civil war just before the Spanish arrived is scaled like a battle out of Lord of the Rings, with hundreds of thousands of people being killed in a short period of time. This is a way bigger scale than anything in Lord of the Rings. The Battle of the Hornburg is about 2000 men of Rohan vs maybe 10000 Uruk-hai and some number of Dunlendings. Battle of the Pelennor is about 3-4k soldiers defending the city plus 6000 cavalry under Theoden and a small force under Aragorn vs some tens of thousands of the Morgul-host. Battle of the Morannon is 6000-ish soldiers under Aragorn outnumbered (but it's not clear by how much) by the Mordor-armies. We're talking pretty modestly sized forces here, as you might expect given the general lack of central government authority, road networks, or indeed any development or habitation at all over large areas of land in Middle-earth.
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skasion posted:This is a way bigger scale than anything in Lord of the Rings. The Battle of the Hornburg is about 2000 men of Rohan vs maybe 10000 Uruk-hai and some number of Dunlendings. Battle of the Pelennor is about 3-4k soldiers defending the city plus 6000 cavalry under Theoden and a small force under Aragorn vs some tens of thousands of the Morgul-host. Battle of the Morannon is 6000-ish soldiers under Aragorn outnumbered (but it's not clear by how much) by the Mordor-armies. We're talking pretty modestly sized forces here, as you might expect given the general lack of central government authority, road networks, or indeed any development or habitation at all over large areas of land in Middle-earth. 
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skasion posted:This is a way bigger scale than anything in Lord of the Rings. The Battle of the Hornburg is about 2000 men of Rohan vs maybe 10000 Uruk-hai and some number of Dunlendings. Battle of the Pelennor is about 3-4k soldiers defending the city plus 6000 cavalry under Theoden and a small force under Aragorn vs some tens of thousands of the Morgul-host. Battle of the Morannon is 6000-ish soldiers under Aragorn outnumbered (but it's not clear by how much) by the Mordor-armies. We're talking pretty modestly sized forces here, as you might expect given the general lack of central government authority, road networks, or indeed any development or habitation at all over large areas of land in Middle-earth. That was beautiful.
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skasion posted:This is a way bigger scale than anything in Lord of the Rings. The Battle of the Hornburg is about 2000 men of Rohan vs maybe 10000 Uruk-hai and some number of Dunlendings. Battle of the Pelennor is about 3-4k soldiers defending the city plus 6000 cavalry under Theoden and a small force under Aragorn vs some tens of thousands of the Morgul-host. Battle of the Morannon is 6000-ish soldiers under Aragorn outnumbered (but it's not clear by how much) by the Mordor-armies. We're talking pretty modestly sized forces here, as you might expect given the general lack of central government authority, road networks, or indeed any development or habitation at all over large areas of land in Middle-earth. I like you.
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skasion posted:This is a way bigger scale than anything in Lord of the Rings. The Battle of the Hornburg is about 2000 men of Rohan vs maybe 10000 Uruk-hai and some number of Dunlendings. Battle of the Pelennor is about 3-4k soldiers defending the city plus 6000 cavalry under Theoden and a small force under Aragorn vs some tens of thousands of the Morgul-host. Battle of the Morannon is 6000-ish soldiers under Aragorn outnumbered (but it's not clear by how much) by the Mordor-armies. We're talking pretty modestly sized forces here, as you might expect given the general lack of central government authority, road networks, or indeed any development or habitation at all over large areas of land in Middle-earth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iO5-ic0Ug4
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skasion posted:This is a way bigger scale than anything in Lord of the Rings. The Battle of the Hornburg is about 2000 men of Rohan vs maybe 10000 Uruk-hai and some number of Dunlendings. Battle of the Pelennor is about 3-4k soldiers defending the city plus 6000 cavalry under Theoden and a small force under Aragorn vs some tens of thousands of the Morgul-host. Battle of the Morannon is 6000-ish soldiers under Aragorn outnumbered (but it's not clear by how much) by the Mordor-armies. We're talking pretty modestly sized forces here, as you might expect given the general lack of central government authority, road networks, or indeed any development or habitation at all over large areas of land in Middle-earth. Welcome to the forums, Stephen Colbert.
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More of a request but I just had a recollection of the book Goodnight, Mr. Tom where the main character, an evacuee kid from London has been "sewn in" to his underwear by his mother. Was this common practice and what the gently caress? Googling it has mostly brought up links to people asking the same question and getting anecdotal replies from old people saying they totally knew a kid who was sewn in and I'm not sure if that's just false memory stuff like people swearing there was definitely a kid named Lemonjello in their class or whatever.
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Baron Corbyn posted:More of a request but I just had a recollection of the book Goodnight, Mr. Tom where the main character, an evacuee kid from London has been "sewn in" to his underwear by his mother. Was this common practice and what the gently caress? Googling it has mostly brought up links to people asking the same question and getting anecdotal replies from old people saying they totally knew a kid who was sewn in and I'm not sure if that's just false memory stuff like people swearing there was definitely a kid named Lemonjello in their class or whatever.  I have wondered that my whole life too. She was abusive though so maybe she was just loving with him?poo poo was it an anti-masturbation thing?
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Being sewn into clothes is a thing- if you're rich enough to have a tailor on call, it's one of the best ways to get a "perfect fit" look. It being used for things as mundane as a children's underwear is mostly a myth, though.
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