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Phantasium posted:There's a level with nothing but steep slopes and ice physics so if you fall off at any point it starts you back at the beginning. *voice of Rattle when he falls off a cliff* AAAAHHHHhhhhhhhh!!! Lurdiak posted:I dunno man, to me the idea of Battletoads was always way better than the experience of playing it. The best Battletoads game is the Arcade one, because that's just a straight brawle with a single space shooter sectionr, and the second best one is Battletoads and Double Dragon, because that one has the least gimmicky non-brawler stuff, and neither is obnoxiously hard like the "real" Battletoads games. Those are also the only games where you can pick all 3 of the Toads instead of being stuck with just two of them. Yeah I can respect this opinion. All this talk about Rare games makes me want to play Viva Piņata again.
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They also made the final boss in one of the arcade games invulnerable for like two minutes so that you would keep dying and have to spend quarters to beat them.
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Phantasium posted:They also made the final boss in one of the arcade games invulnerable for like two minutes so that you would keep dying and have to spend quarters to beat them. That's honestly pretty mild for Arcade fuckery, but yeah. It's still lovely. Goddamn B-Toads.
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Battletoads and a lot of the other crazy hard NES/Genesis/SNES games blow my mind because imagine trying to make a $60 AAA game that literally millions of dollars went into like that now where you have a stage that's practically unbeatable. It's funny how many old games I never actually beat growing up because they didn't have saves or anything like that. e: I mean I guess Dark Souls is a thing but that's not really comparable to some of the stuff from Battletoads in my eyes suuma fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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suuma posted:Battletoads and a lot of the other crazy hard NES/Genesis/SNES games blow my mind because imagine trying to make a game like that now where you have a stage that's practically unbeatable in your $60 AAA game that literally millions of dollars went into the development of. Jurassic Park on the NES is, to this day, the only game I have owned* but never beaten. I've only been to level 4. It sucks because it's actually a fairly decent game, it's just hard as gently caress. * before the days of Steam that bloated my backlog exponentially
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Mak0rz posted:I don't think there is any game I purchased more than RE4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEfJ6_cpmvs
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i bought tradewinds odyssey on steam, and.....
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Cardboard Box A posted:It's a long video but the payoff is A M A Z I N G Why does this exist
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Battletoads was proof that devs hated gamers and wanted them to suffer. And yeah Battletoad was not good, they threw so many things at you to gently caress with you. I always felt a game that good concept was teaching the player what to expect but Battletoads never did that. it's like ok you have this level where you are climbing down a tree, a speed tunnel section, a section where you have to keep jumping on snakes and one gently caress up is death, and it never stops throwing new things at you. Hell I think the speed tunnel and the jet are the onlly two similar things that happen and even then the jet part is still bullshit. I guess that's why Battletoad gets the rep it does when you beat it. You ever gone on social media and soon as you bring up you beat Battletoads it's like oh my god you are amazing etc, and I"m like no you just dealt with a game that threw bullshit at you. This isn't the DARK SOULS of the 80s, it just NES hard bullshit and I could name quite a few games that were just as bullshit as Battletoads. I wonder if there was any correlationto NES games and blockbuster. I mean renting games were the rage back then. Alot of NES games were just bullshit. This might be due to fuckery but it still amazes me how the japaense version of Ninja Gaiden 3 was easier then the US one. The US version had limited continues and the enemies hit harder. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Blackfyre posted:Heres my controversial opinion... I didn't find Rare all that great back in the day. I've always assumed it was something my end that wasn't clicking. Goldeneye and DKC I really enjoyed (PD by extension but I didn't like it as much as Goldeneye for many reasons) but I really wouldn't have been fussed if that was all they ever made. RC Pro Am was loving godlike at the time But then they got one-upped by whatever shitnothing company made Micro Machines, haha e: Battletoads was Legit Good and 14 year old me had no problem beating it 
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If I recall, Rare threw a tantrum when Nintendo Power gave Battletoads a 6/10 rating and threatened to pull advertising from the magazine. So I guess they were really banking on stupid Battletoads being a big hit.
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I never did play Battletoads vs. Double Dragon. Or Double Dragon Neon, come to think on it.
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i've never played battletoads but it doesn't look fun
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So Yacht Club is mostly composed of the Wayforward team that worked on Double Dragon Neon. I talked to one of them, and they said they'd love to do another Double Dragon game. They also included Battletoads in the Xbox One version of Shovel Knight. And based on a few other statements I've heard, I think that if they had the opportunity, Yacht Club would totally make Double Dragon and Battletoads Neon. Neon is like tied for best Double Dragon game ever with the GBA game, by the way. I can't recommend it enough.
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Neon is really absurdly good. It's just the right mix of fun and cheesy. The 3D models are kinda crap but everyone else is so good it well overcomes it.
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Shindragon posted:
This was a common and thought-out method of curtailing rentals in the US. The Adventures of Bayou Billy, Contra 3, and Quest 64 were edited to make them harder. Same goes for most space-shooters when that genre was popular.
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It really is kind of a shame that a company known for its stellar pixel art chose to cut costs and use uggo 3D models on their best game. I'm still mad about that IGN review.
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I very much love Double Dragon Neon and I want a goddamn sequel. Set in the 90s of coruse. GET that EXTREME TUBLAR attitude in there. And bring back Skeletor... I mean Skullmageddon. I loved that boney rear end bastard. Double Dragon is not known for having any memorable end bosses (other than the twist of Jimmy being the Shadow Master, etc) And now I"m obligated to post the best credits song ever in a game (next to GOD HAND) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzHO50sB2gs edit: I know I normally don't do lists, and this is subjective but the games that scream NES bullshit to me where: Zelda2 Battletoads Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 Castlevania 2 Ghost and Goblins Shindragon fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Feb 20, 2017 20:39
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I never did check, was it the same fucker at IGN who gave Double Dragon Neon the 3/10 that gave God Hand a 3/10?
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Shindragon posted:edit: I know I normally don't do lists, and this is subjective but the games that scream NES bullshit to me where: If you want NES bullshit give Adventure Island a try sometime. It's far worse than those.
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Lurdiak posted:I never did check, was it the same fucker at IGN who gave Double Dragon Neon the 3/10 that gave God Hand a 3/10? Hahahah I wish but nah different guys but hey shows how horrible IGN's tastes were. edit: How bullshit we talkiing? NO passwords? No Continues? Obsecure paths? Platforming? Gimme the details because you made me raise an eyebrow if there is someting more bullshit than Ghost n Goblins. gently caress that red flying gently caress.
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Back to games we took time to really dig into... For me the first were the Shining Force games on the Genesis. Then FF8, Xenogears, Vagrant Story, and Ocarina of Time. The most recent titles I've gotten that sense of ownership and mastery from are Shadows of the Colossus and Demon's Souls. I haven't had anything hook me quite as hard in a while. Those I really worked hard to master mechanics, timing, etc enough to play multiple times and do challenge runs.
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Wonder Boy on Sega Master System is the superior version of Adventure Island, in every way. And that's maybe the only case where anyone's ever said the Master System had the better version of a game. Wonder Boy lacks most of the unforgiving bullshit and lovely timing that Adventure Island has, has better music, looks way better, and the protagonist isn't a weird Japanese in-joke.
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Putting Zelda 2 in that list is kind of unfair. I beat it blind without any problem at all. The only thing that can be construed as bullshit is the false floor in the last dungeon and even that wasn't so bad.
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Castlevania 2 isn't that bullshit if you have a guide, just kinda boring. Unless you mean 3, that game is balls hard in the US.
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Lurdiak posted:Castlevania 2 isn't that bullshit if you have a guide, just kinda boring. Yeah if you know where to go it's the easiest game in the series. There's 3 bosses and you don't have to fight the first two, and Dracula can be beaten before he attacks once.
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I did say that list was subjective.  Didn't help Castelvania's 2 translation was shoddy as poo poo. Zelda 2 goes up there because of Death Mountain.
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Zelda II becomes increasingly more tolerable the second you get the hammer and not have to trudge through the god damned swamp again.
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Mak0rz posted:Battletoads isn't "straight up bad" dude come on. Sure they aren't the best beat-em-ups out there, but they're still playable and can be fun despite their flaws. Also you forgot Blast Corps hth Underrated? Jet Force Gemini. I'm considering a bone just for rare replay and gears and halo
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Jet Force Gemini has aged like milk Slap some new controls on it and it'd be fine, but as-is... blech
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:Back to games we took time to really dig into... For me the first were the Shining Force games on the Genesis. Then FF8, Xenogears, Vagrant Story, and Ocarina of Time. The most recent titles I've gotten that sense of ownership and mastery from are Shadows of the Colossus and Demon's Souls. I haven't had anything hook me quite as hard in a while. Those I really worked hard to master mechanics, timing, etc enough to play multiple times and do challenge runs. Play bloodborne if you own a PS4.
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Not a Children posted:Jet Force Gemini has aged like milk That does make a point of something, what are some games that controlled fine to you back when you first played them but now control like trash because some other game has done it better?
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Much as I have a love for it, Megaman Legends. Back then it was holding the shoulder buttons and just circle strafe around your enemies, now 3D action games do a much better job of it.
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gently caress yall ninja gaiden owns
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corn in the bible posted:gently caress yall ninja gaiden owns I agree.
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Lurdiak posted:Wonder Boy on Sega Master System is the superior version of Adventure Island, in every way. And that's maybe the only case where anyone's ever said the Master System had the better version of a game. Wonder Boy lacks most of the unforgiving bullshit and lovely timing that Adventure Island has, has better music, looks way better, and the protagonist isn't a weird Japanese in-joke. Personally, I prefer Sonic 1 on the Master System to the real thing, but the real Sonic 2 blows them both away.
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Not a Children posted:Jet Force Gemini has aged like milk It's not good anymore? Not with an Xbox one controller  ?
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Jet Force Gemini has updated controls on rare replay, and they're still bad. It's serviceable if you hold down the aim button but that's still clunky as hell
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Tenzarin posted:All of square enix's lovely stealth games suck rear end, they managed to turn all of the stealth games into the same game. ... Huh? I'm pretty sure HItman and Deus Ex are pretty different games. I'm not sure what else qualifies as stealth? Their Thief reboot I guess but that's pretty drat old by this point and also not really like Hitman or Deus Ex.
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