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Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Humphreys posted:

Wow a bunch of those are terrible!

Although I kinda dig this one:



EDIT: In this case it really is a Fiero. Not sure how I feel about that.

Is one of the listed selling points the world's largest frunk?

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Frank Dillinger
May 16, 2007
Jawohl mein herr!

Fire Storm posted:

24 Hours of LeMons starts a new 168 hour variant. Car dies? Grab another one. Team that goes through the least number of cars wins.

24 Days of LeMons. 24hrs/24 days.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Or they could do one of those top gear-esque "hilariously inappropriate car driven from point A to point B" but without the scripting and staged incidents.

Sponsored by JD Power hopefully, because that's quality testing I'd like to see.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Vitamin J posted:

I found all the Volkswagens. Kinda surprised half of these aren't on jackstands and have half their engine bay raided for parts.

According to this Jalopnik article Volkswagen is waiting to see if the EPA and/or CARB will approve fixes to the emissions cheating so they can re-sell them.

So the market might suddenly be flooded with used TDIs in the coming months if/when either agency approves the fixes.

Vitamin J
Aug 16, 2006

God, just tell me to shut up already. I have a clear anti-domestic bias and a lack of facts.
I was just pointing out that that's a public road in the foreground of the photo, there's only a short fence and no tresspassing signs, and a shitload of cars just sitting there with no security to speak of. It's about 15 miles out of the city in the middle of the desert.

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
Back in 05-06, Chrysler discovered an accounting trick where they'd save on production costs by building more trucks than they could sell.

I don't know the finer details, but I did see mall parking lots across Toledo start filling up with brand new trucks. Good thing for Chrysler, Toledo had plenty of abandoned malls to choose from.

I'd say the lots held between 700 and 1200 brand new vehicles, all parked in neat rows with keys in the dash. It was fun to think about walking in with a couple friends & grabbing a couple free trucks, and I cruised the perimeter road once out of curiosity.

There were no fences at the lots, no bollards, no signs, just security guards sitting in their personal vehicles (just common shitboxes) every 50 yards around the perimeter. I don't know about you, but having unknown people in lovely cars watching you like a hawk, while being in a pretty lovely part of town already, is a very unsettling feeling and I just got the hell out of there.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy
Right now there are a 20000 brand new Passats in Germany just sitting in the VW parking lot because their supplier for glove compartments had a fire and couldn't keep up so all of them are finished except for the glove compartment. They even started to offload them to parking lots of other companies and pretty much stopped production because of this.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

I work at a teir 2 automotive supplier and the rate we've been told for any problems forcing a line shutdown is $17,000 per minute. That glove box supplier is probably wishing the whole plant burned down at this point.

buttcrackmenace
Nov 14, 2007

see its right there in the manual where it says
Grimey Drawer

Geoj posted:

According to this Jalopnik article Volkswagen is waiting to see if the EPA and/or CARB will approve fixes to the emissions cheating so they can re-sell them.

So the market might suddenly be flooded with used TDIs in the coming months if/when either agency approves the fixes.

*reads the bio of the new director of the EPA*

The market will be flooded with used, cheap TDIs in the coming months

buttcrackmenace fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Feb 21, 2017

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

I work at a teir 2 automotive supplier and the rate we've been told for any problems forcing a line shutdown is $17,000 per minute. That glove box supplier is probably wishing the whole plant burned down at this point.

Yeah JIS is great when it works but when one little thing somewhere fails it costs a shitton of money.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

A lot of companies just wholesale eat up JIT and lean manufacturing without understanding its function or whether it's a good fit for what they're doing. It carries a lot of positives but it also carries a gently caress load of negatives.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


My dad used to work for Jag and then later a supplier of locking mechanisms for Jag. There were several occasions where he had to go home to get his passport because they needed someone to fly over to Germany to pick up parts so the company wouldn't get fined £££££ for holding up production. I'm not sure he particularly enjoyed those days considering it was always someone else's gently caress up.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

buttcrackmenace posted:

*reads the bio of the new director of the EPA*

The market will be flooded with used, cheap TDIs in the coming months

Great, I will buy one.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

buttcrackmenace posted:

*reads the bio of the new director of the EPA*

The market will be flooded with used, cheap TDIs in the coming months

I wouldn't be surprised if EPA tried to roll back some of the fines as well under the new guy. Its not really a good thing either.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


iospace posted:

So, you know those Mustangs that get modded to look like cars out of the 30s?

I found out who does that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmer_(automobile)

A regular at my work is going to buy one :stonk:

fixed the link.

You know they've been making stuff since the '80s, right? I am astounded that they're still in business, though.
I never really like the regular Zimmers, but I actually like the Zimmer Quicksilver. It's a little less "'30s" than the regular model. It is, of course, a Fiero. Actually ends up being sort of Toronado-like. I'd kind of like to hoon one up with a V8.

Powershift posted:

There are actually a couple. and i've posted a bunch. zimmer builds them out of mustangs and town cars. mitsuoka out of miatas and 240s. there were companies in the 80s and 90s that built them out of mustangs, cougars, 300zs, all kinds of fun stuff.

It's always fun trying to figure out what kind of car it was from the doors.

Don't forget Excalibur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excalibur_(automobile)


Crustashio posted:

"First ever r18 unequal length header!! What do you guys think?? 2 days work! And sounds amazing!!!"







I had to Google around a bit for that. I had no idea that a 4-cylinder with only two exhaust ports existed. I was really confused by that header just from that.

NoWake posted:

HELL YES

I'm picturing this:

The Great Dirty Diesel Dub Derby Series
(basically a smash 'em up roller derby for cars)

10 teams, 10 drivers per team, events held in 5 locations per weekend. (one team travels, one team is 'home')
5 races per event. Drivers get fresh cars every race.
36 week season March - November.
Held every year for the next 30 years.

If they're gonna scrap 'em, let's make it interesting!

Thirding this.
Also, there are thousands of folks who would happily pay them better than scrap prices just for the engines to put in older stuff.

edit:
OOOO! Really the best example of neo-classics (in whichever meaning of "best" you prefer): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stutz_Blackhawk

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

I work at a teir 2 automotive supplier and the rate we've been told for any problems forcing a line shutdown is $17,000 per minute. That glove box supplier is probably wishing the whole plant burned down at this point.
Yeah, it's like the words "build stop" or "aircraft on ground". They translate as "poo poo's on fire, yo".

Olympic Mathlete posted:

My dad used to work for Jag and then later a supplier of locking mechanisms for Jag. There were several occasions where he had to go home to get his passport because they needed someone to fly over to Germany to pick up parts so the company wouldn't get fined £££££ for holding up production. I'm not sure he particularly enjoyed those days considering it was always someone else's gently caress up.
Yuuuuup, that's a thing.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Austin-Rover is a great example of a company that wholly embraced JIT, partly because of Honda, and it just made their supplier and product problems even more apparent.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

stump posted:

I had a Nissan Qashqai this week for a hire car. Picked it up with just 34 miles on the clock. Dropped it off 1000 miles later well and truly run in.

It was actually an OK car, and went OK for a little 1.5 diesel if you keep in 3rd and 4th. It handled too poorly to justify such stiff suspension, but I guess that's the trend nowadays.

The terrible bit? This this thing cost £27,000. For a jacked up smallish hatchback. You can get a well specced Passat or similar for that much, with a proper sized engine, a proper sized boot and the same amount of spec, and it'll ride and handle much better.

Oh great, it looks like a 4x4, well it costs as much as one, handles like one too, despite riding like a stiff hot hatch and being crap off road. Maybe you can get great deals on them, and maybe the lower spec models are better, I like that they are made in the UK, but this one was a POS considering the price.

Edit, the steering managed to be numb but heavy, and required a poo poo load of turns manoeuvring around tight turns, but because it was kinda stiff you couldn't just palm it round.



I found the Infiniti QX30 to suffer from the exact same problem with the steering. Heavy and utterly lifeless.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Zeppelin Insanity posted:

Angry headlight mods are always terrible car stuff. They're in the same category as headlight eyelashes.

These really exist? I thought I only imagined those in a fever dream.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

Nidhg00670000 posted:

I'm so glad Euro Ncap is testing all kinds of poo poo now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3nmrTruSD0

I want to see them test a NASCAR Cup car or F1 car for the other end of the spectrum.

Vitamin J
Aug 16, 2006

God, just tell me to shut up already. I have a clear anti-domestic bias and a lack of facts.
Hopefully something happens to those TDIs besides a cash-for-clunkers style destruction of the engines. Hopefully the stigma and depreciation and market flooding put them on the market for peanuts. I have no real use for one but I have dreams of using the TDI + DSG in all sorts of antics. The two I like best is putting that combo into a Porsche 914 or putting it into a 1990 Audi Coupe Quattro. With all those Audis on the lot, maybe I just upgraded from a I4 to a V6.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Audi of America would like to remind you that C5 A6s cannot possibly be harmed by water due to Audi's well established reputation for having completely waterproof eletronics.

https://twitter.com/Audi/status/834186678235303936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Audi: made of fuckin submarines

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

These really exist? I thought I only imagined those in a fever dream.

Headlight eyelashes? Yep, absolutely. I think the world's entire stock is installed exclusively on Minis and the 90's era New Beetles

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Also Chrysler 200s and Concordes

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


Best Dead Gay Forums
on the whole Internet!

Darchangel posted:


edit:
OOOO! Really the best example of neo-classics (in whichever meaning of "best" you prefer): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stutz_Blackhawk

I saw one of these IRL once. Sitting in someone's yard in Frayser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frayser,_Memphis . I was taking a friend to buy a Honda Accord wagon and the guy had a poo poo ton of cars in his yard. I studied it for a long time going "Well what the gently caress is this thing??" before I asked the guy, he just said it was a Stutz. Took me a while on the computer to figure out which Stutz.

It just screams "70s pimp sled". It's so over the top and ridiculous it comes back around again to being awesome.

It's a tie between this and the Nash Metropolitan that I saw for sale on Highway 100 in Chester County TN for the rarest car I have laid eyes on personally.

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003

Sagebrush posted:

Headlight eyelashes? Yep, absolutely. I think the world's entire stock is installed exclusively on Minis and the 90's era New Beetles

Twingos, PT Cruisers and 1998 Mercedes SLKs

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Sagebrush posted:

Headlight eyelashes? Yep, absolutely. I think the world's entire stock is installed exclusively on Minis and the 90's era New Beetles

Saw some on a pearl white Range Rover Evoque once. I'm trying to hunt down the photograph but it was about 5 years ago so it's providing difficult.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


1500quidporsche posted:

Austin-Rover is a great example of a company that wholly embraced JIT, partly because of Honda, and it just made their supplier and product problems even more apparent.

Also Lamborghini using Nissan 300ZX headlights on the Diablo.

my girlfriend is Legos
Apr 24, 2013

wayfinder posted:

Twingos, PT Cruisers and 1998 Mercedes SLKs

Audi TTs and Peugeot 206 CCs

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

Throatwarbler posted:

Audi of America would like to remind you that C5 A6s cannot possibly be harmed by water due to Audi's well established reputation for having completely waterproof eletronics.

https://twitter.com/Audi/status/834186678235303936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

He does push a nice bow wave

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe

wayfinder posted:

Twingos, PT Cruisers and 1998 Mercedes SLKs

Fiat 500's.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Sagebrush posted:

Headlight eyelashes? Yep, absolutely. I think the world's entire stock is installed exclusively on Minis and the 90's era New Beetles

I saw a Tacoma once that had both headlight eyelashes and truck nuts.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Yeah its a drag car.

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Yeah its a drag car.

AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Yeah its a drag car.

:vince:

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

These really exist? I thought I only imagined those in a fever dream.



GutBomb fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Feb 22, 2017

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?

SpannerX posted:

Fiat 500's.
I jokingly suggested to my fiancee that she should get headlight lashes for hers. She looked at me in that "The weddings off" kind of way.

Besides, it's bad enough for me when I'm driving it. Baby blue with a minnie mouse ariel topper. :v:

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Yeah its a drag car.

Fabulous.

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iospace
Jan 19, 2038



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