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LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.

Jay Rust posted:

What I want to see is an end to female action stars wearing high heels and running, that stuff is just crazy!

This clip's cut weird, but there's an episode of the X-Files where Scully and Mulder meet actors who are going to play them in a movie. The Scully actress asks Gillian Anderson to show her how to run in heels. That's what's going on in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSbPdnlwg30

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Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Captain Invictus posted:

It's Yoko Taro. I'm pretty sure he said "hit me with all ya got" when someone mentioned there was already porn of the characters after the demo came out

Yep, he definitely did. At least he's not trying to tell us we'll be ashamed of our words and deeds, I guess.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Sakurazuka posted:

There should be a bit where they power up by taking their heels (limiters) off

Now witness the power of my TRUE FORM

*becomes three inches shorter*

Lakbay
Dec 14, 2006

My eye...MY EYE!!!

CrashCat posted:

There are a lot of assists available (you can pick and choose) for easy mode, I doubt you'll be unable to complete it. But there will likely be a separate ending or some poo poo for the die hards, I dunno, just youtube that crap when you've finished :shrug:

I'll probably play on easy just so I don't have to hold down R2 all the time to fire the machine gun drone since the autochip in the demo said easy difficulty only

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


MMF Freeway posted:

I literally could not understand how to properly bump enemies in Ys 1. I spend like 10 min dying to the first enemies and gave up lol. Origins owns though.

The DS ports that came out in like 2008 added an attack button instead of bumping. I don't think it really helped though.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Captain Invictus posted:

no, you don't get to skip on in here as a one-liner shitposter and then drop a can of worms like this.

much like revengeance, which has a shitload of plot that is completely, utterly skippable, you don't have to play it multiple times. you can play it just the once.

Why am I the only one willing to discuss the elephant in the room?

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Because it's an easy way to poo poo stir.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

fridge corn posted:

Why am I the only one willing to discuss the elephant in the room?

I really wish you hadn't figured out this was the best way to get attention

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Harrow posted:

Legit, I do hope there's a costume where 2B gets to wear pants so that I can show this game to my friends without being embarrassed.

that's actually a really good way to describe my thinking. if i showed one of my friends who doesn't have any context for it revengeance i'd feel ok with it, but if i showed them nier i would ironically be ashamed of my words and deeds. bayonetta's kind of a gray area.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Don't be so self-conscious about the anime butts.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

People tend to care less about skimpy anime character outfits when the developer isn't trying to pretend they're doing anything other than putting a character in a sexy outfit, I guess. I'm not nearly well-versed enough in gender politics to have any opinion on whether that's better or worse, but at least nobody's out there trying to tell us we'll feel bad when we learn the real reason 2B's dressed like a maid.

Cowcaster posted:

that's actually a really good way to describe my thinking. if i showed one of my friends who doesn't have any context for it revengeance i'd feel ok with it, but if i showed them nier i would ironically be ashamed of my words and deeds. bayonetta's kind of a gray area.

If it helps, 2B isn't the only playable character, and in fact you'll spend more time playing as a male-model android who wears a pretty normal shirt and shorts.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

fridge corn posted:

So it's okay that a game features tasteless near-nudity that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay because it's not taking itself seriously?

I don't know, Fridge corn, is it okay for a game that features excessive absurd violent that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay because it's not taking itself seriously?

fridge corn posted:

Why am I the only one willing to discuss the elephant in the room?

Because it's pretty weird you're hyper-focusing on butts but no other element of the game.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Captain Invictus posted:

Don't be so self-conscious about the anime butts.

Everyone be more self-conscious about anime butts so we can make the world a better place.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

fridge corn posted:

Witcher 3 was a good game

fridge corn, why do you think a game that features tasteless near-nudity that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay is a good game?

I'm certainly not sure why you'd buy Witcher 3, the game featuring tits aplenty, when you are so upset about naked video game characters, especially as it is a sequel to a game that features collectible pornography.

Could it be that elements of the game are quality enough to make you overlook that? No, it couldn't be. Why are you not discussing the elephant in the room?

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Lurdiak posted:

Everyone be more self-conscious about anime butts so we can make the world a better place.

i think the only development involving videogames that would make the world a better place is destroying all of them

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I'm really eagerly awaiting Digital Foundry's inevitable comparison video between the Switch and Wii U versions of Breath of the Wild. The only reason I'm not agonizing over whether to get Breath of the Wild or Nier: Automata first is because I suspect the Wii U version is going to run really poorly and/or have a noticeably decreased level of detail compared to the Switch version and I'm exactly the kind of stupid manchild who'd be bothered by that.

My current plan is to hold off on Breath of the Wild until I buy a Switch in like November or something, but who knows I guess.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Harrow posted:

If it helps, 2B isn't the only playable character, and in fact you'll spend more time playing as a male-model android who wears a pretty normal shirt and shorts.

What the gently caress.

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!
Me: well actually bayonetta is

Gf: *extremely sarcastically* uh huh

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Snak posted:

What the gently caress.

They weren't shy about telling us there were multiple playable characters pre-release, but yeah, the actual balance between the time you spend playing each character is different than you probably expect.

If you're not worried about spoiling a little bit more: you do play as 2B for the entire first playthrough. The second playthrough is someone else (who has more than one full playthrough), and there's a third playable character too. So it's not like 2B is yanked away from you really quickly or something.

Harrow fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Feb 24, 2017

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
I think developers should go in the opposite direction and make their characters harder to sexualize. One more reason that games like Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls rule, you spend forever crafting your perfect waifu and then the first thing that happens is a dragon tears their chest open and gives them a huge scar or they turn into undead beef jerky.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Harrow posted:

I'm really eagerly awaiting Digital Foundry's inevitable comparison video between the Switch and Wii U versions of Breath of the Wild. The only reason I'm not agonizing over whether to get Breath of the Wild or Nier: Automata first is because I suspect the Wii U version is going to run really poorly and/or have a noticeably decreased level of detail compared to the Switch version and I'm exactly the kind of stupid manchild who'd be bothered by that.

My current plan is to hold off on Breath of the Wild until I buy a Switch in like November or something, but who knows I guess.

Take my hand Harrow and walk forward into the bright new world of not caring about that poo poo

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Regy Rusty posted:

Take my hand Harrow and walk forward into the bright new world of not caring about that poo poo

I want to believe, I do...

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Guy Mann posted:

I think developers should go in the opposite direction and make their characters harder to sexualize. One more reason that games like Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls rule, you spend forever crafting your perfect waifu and then the first thing that happens is a dragon tears their chest open and gives them a huge scar or they turn into undead beef jerky.

It was a big mistake to add a warning to the DS2 coffin

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


fridge corn posted:

Why am I the only one willing to discuss the elephant in the room?
You're not, the elephant has been talked about for years. We've all read the arguments about sex in video games, go find or make a thread in DnD if you want to endlessly retread it with people who might be interested

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

ImpAtom, you've played Horizon: Zero Dawn, right? I saw in a video that there are apparently dungeons? I didn't really expect that. Are we talking small things that are on the level of the Tomb Raider reboot's optional tombs, or something bigger?

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

my nier opinion is I watched a whole lore video about Drakengard to get caught up only for it not to matter because the only thing that matters is "and then aliens attacked"

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



ImpAtom posted:

I'm certainly not sure why you'd buy Witcher 3, the game featuring tits aplenty, when you are so upset about naked video game characters, especially as it is a sequel to a game that features collectible pornography.

pretty sure if geralt went around the game wearing nothing but a miniskirt and manthong with the rest of the game's setting and narrative wholly unchanged i'd have a pretty hard time explaining that to friends too

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

raditts posted:

Who is Thor? Are you talking about Toal?

Yeah, for some reason that's how his name was originally translated, but they later changed it to Toal instead.

Could be worse, could be Colin :regd09:

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

That would make Witcher 3 better

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Cowcaster posted:

pretty sure if geralt went around the game wearing nothing but a miniskirt and manthong with the rest of the game's setting and narrative wholly unchanged i'd have a pretty hard time explaining that to friends too

I can explain it to your friends for you, it's pretty easy

"anime"

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Cowcaster posted:

pretty sure if geralt went around the game wearing nothing but a miniskirt and manthong with the rest of the game's setting and narrative wholly unchanged i'd have a pretty hard time explaining that to friends too

No explanation needed

They'd understand

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



i think what i'm asking is for both the videogames i play and the people i interact with not to assume i'm just 100% horned up and jacking it every single second of every single day

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Captain Invictus posted:

I can explain it to your friends for you, it's pretty easy

"anime"

That's not an explanation, that's a condemnation.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

You can only do that on easy automatic mode

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

fridge corn posted:

So it's okay that a game features tasteless near-nudity that is completely irrelevant to the narrative or gameplay because it's not taking itself seriously?

Wearing a skirt is not nearly nude

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

grieving for Gandalf posted:

my nier opinion is I watched a whole lore video about Drakengard to get caught up only for it not to matter because the only thing that matters is "and then aliens attacked"

Yoko Taro on the automata lore:
"I know there are folks who haven't played the first game and are concerned about Emil etc popping up, but don't worry. Lots of creators say you don't have to play previous games, but you actually do, and that annoys me. So don't worry. Also if you really want to experience the first game, go watch it on Nico or Youtube or something. I don't care. They're barely connected. Hope you enjoy the terrible story and Platinum's excellent gameplay."

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Cowcaster posted:

pretty sure if geralt went around the game wearing nothing but a miniskirt and manthong with the rest of the game's setting and narrative wholly unchanged i'd have a pretty hard time explaining that to friends too

I donno. I have a hard time picturing my friends seeing my play Witcher 3 and I get to, I donno, Keira's barely-on top and it somehow being okay because the narrative says so.

Like I said, if you want to criticize oversexualization in games that is cool, but it's weird when you're VERY SERIOUS about the ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM but only when you don't like it enough. (You being the other dude, of course, in this case.)

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Feb 24, 2017

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I played the demo and I don't even understand the fixation people have drummed up around 2B. Compared to bayonetta there's nothing gratuitous, and the poo poo people bring up is positioning the camera themselves so they can look at her rear end, which is on the player

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

In Training posted:

I played the demo and I don't even understand the fixation people have drummed up around 2B. Compared to bayonetta there's nothing gratuitous, and the poo poo people bring up is positioning the camera themselves so they can look at her rear end, which is on the player

There's a cheeve for that lol

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In Training
Jun 28, 2008

MMF Freeway posted:

There's a cheeve for that lol

That's pretty funny. Is it for getting 2B to smack the camera away?

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