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big time bisexual: Oct 16, 2002; Cool Party

Dr. Killjoy posted:

What was that documentary about the Chinese-born Russian dude living in China as an actor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rS30IjG05c

# ? Feb 28, 2017 01:38

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UltraRed posted:

This is true for alot of places, not just Germany. The idea that imitating someone's race/ethnicity is mockery comes from the US's history of doing just that.

Wait--like, the US exported the concept of blackface/yellowface? Nobody in Europe thought of putting makeup on their face and dressing up as a caricature before Americans did it? That's fascinating, I didn't know that.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 06:42

Ceciltron: Jan 11, 2007; Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!; Pillbug

Pirate Radar posted:

Wait--like, the US exported the concept of blackface/yellowface? Nobody in Europe thought of putting makeup on their face and dressing up as a caricature before Americans did it? That's fascinating, I didn't know that.

It is most certainly a false claim.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 06:47

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

There was Black Peter, Saint Nick's little helper. I always thought it was because he had soot from chimney-scampering, but apparently it's a Moor caricature.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 06:55

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

I was just in the supermarket buying stuff to cook for lunch. I was waiting in a long line, since they had decided to close the usual six registers and have two open while the other clerks were limply wiping down the register-number signs.

There's an older guy standing in front of me, and he keeps turning around to look me up and down, as well as stare at what's in my basket. This is normal for China, as they have nooooo idea what the barbarians consider food or even if they know what cooking is, since Chinese food is the only true food. He's being annoying, and his breath stinks, but I am stuck.
The woman behind me sighs very loudly and grabs a nearby empty shopping cart, throwing her heavy items in so she doesn't have to hold them. It was a small package of tofu, and a bag of about 50 dumpling wrappers. She pushed this cart for the duration of my time in line.
I was finally able to put my items on the counter at the register, and now the dork in front of me immediately perks up and starts touching my items like he's never seen any of these crazy things before. Corn! Ginger! Beans! Bread rolls! Oh, poo poo, an onion! He is especially shocked at the bread rolls and starts poking his fingers into them like they are some mystical apparition come from beyond. I tell him to stop that, and he turns and stares at me like he is even more surprised now that it actually speaks and is sentient. I couldn't tell if he was really that stupid, or just wanted to be an rear end in a top hat, but I feel it was a mixture of both. His breath made me want to gag.
He then backed away, paid attention to the cashier (who was asking him to pay), and left after looking me up and down one more time.

I live in an area with a high volume of foreigners of all colors and sizes, so my appearance is not something out of the ordinary around here. Kill the old.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 07:07

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Pirate Radar posted:

Wait--like, the US exported the concept of blackface/yellowface? Nobody in Europe thought of putting makeup on their face and dressing up as a caricature before Americans did it? That's fascinating, I didn't know that.

europeans try to outsource their racist heritage to the usa but they are actually hella racist

maybe even more because at least its a political issue that people talk about in the usa

# ? Feb 28, 2017 07:08

hailthefish: Oct 24, 2010

"Only Americans are racist!" *throws bananas at black soccer players*

# ? Feb 28, 2017 07:35

ladron: Sep 15, 2007; eso es lo que es

Haier posted:

Kill the old.

you probably reeked like chinese poon and his pheromone detectors got all confused

# ? Feb 28, 2017 07:39

Ailumao: Nov 4, 2004

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

One of my coworkers in Korea did this when i told her I was moving to China. Pulled on her eyes and yelled, "CHING CHONG CHING CHONG!" First response. Let us English's students apparently did the same.

When I was at a Taiwanese university a million years ago studying Chinese, our Taiwanese TA and a Korean student in my class had a fight one day over who's eyes went "up" (~~Chinese~~Taiwanese or Koreans), but they both agreed Japanese people's eyes went "down". They were pulling their eyes to demonstrate to the primarily European class what they meant.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 07:41

Let us English: Feb 21, 2004; Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

mojo1701a posted:

Be glad they're not using their fingers to stretch their eyes.

Koreans and Japanese do this on occasion when China is brought up. This may or may not be accompanied by shouts of "ching-chong, ching-chong."

E;f;b

I saw both children and adults do this.

Let us English fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Feb 28, 2017

# ? Feb 28, 2017 08:00

Fleta Mcgurn: Oct 5, 2003; Porpoise noise continues.

Haier posted:

I was just in the supermarket buying stuff to cook for lunch. I was waiting in a long line, since they had decided to close the usual six registers and have two open while the other clerks were limply wiping down the register-number signs.

There's an older guy standing in front of me, and he keeps turning around to look me up and down, as well as stare at what's in my basket. This is normal for China, as they have nooooo idea what the barbarians consider food or even if they know what cooking is, since Chinese food is the only true food. He's being annoying, and his breath stinks, but I am stuck.
The woman behind me sighs very loudly and grabs a nearby empty shopping cart, throwing her heavy items in so she doesn't have to hold them. It was a small package of tofu, and a bag of about 50 dumpling wrappers. She pushed this cart for the duration of my time in line.
I was finally able to put my items on the counter at the register, and now the dork in front of me immediately perks up and starts touching my items like he's never seen any of these crazy things before. Corn! Ginger! Beans! Bread rolls! Oh, poo poo, an onion! He is especially shocked at the bread rolls and starts poking his fingers into them like they are some mystical apparition come from beyond. I tell him to stop that, and he turns and stares at me like he is even more surprised now that it actually speaks and is sentient. I couldn't tell if he was really that stupid, or just wanted to be an rear end in a top hat, but I feel it was a mixture of both. His breath made me want to gag.
He then backed away, paid attention to the cashier (who was asking him to pay), and left after looking me up and down one more time.

I live in an area with a high volume of foreigners of all colors and sizes, so my appearance is not something out of the ordinary around here. Kill the old.

This poo poo drives me crazy. Especially when they take something out of my cart/basket and ask me what it is. I don't know, go look at the sign! Dang.

Sometimes I just put my coat in the basket. The workers at my local Ito Yokado are used to me doing this by now.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 08:30

Fleta Mcgurn: Oct 5, 2003; Porpoise noise continues.

hailthefish posted:

"Only Americans are racist!" *throws bananas at black soccer players*

I mean, free bananas, though.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 08:31

Son of Rodney: Feb 22, 2006; ohmygodohmygodohmygod

Pirate Radar posted:

Wait--like, the US exported the concept of blackface/yellowface? Nobody in Europe thought of putting makeup on their face and dressing up as a caricature before Americans did it? That's fascinating, I didn't know that.

No, Europeans did and still do it all the time, the concept that it's incredibly racist is something where the US is at the forefront though. Like, when you see someone in Germany running around in blackface (like for fashing) the most liberal people will also say it's incredibly racist, but even generally very liberal people will mostly just kinda scoff at it. "That's a bit distasteful". It simply isn't the same level of scandal in many parts of europe.

I was Spain for 3 Kings festival (the three holy kings from the bible are way more popular than santa in spain, and the big present festival is 8th of january instead of christmas) and the amount of blackface balthazhars is still staggering. Often with blackface helpers, or real african helpers. A couple of generally liberal spanish people I asked told me "yeah well it's a bit racist, but it's not so bad and it's kinda tradition".

# ? Feb 28, 2017 09:39

LentThem: Aug 31, 2004; 90% Retractible

Pirate Radar posted:

Wait--like, the US exported the concept of blackface/yellowface? Nobody in Europe thought of putting makeup on their face and dressing up as a caricature before Americans did it? That's fascinating, I didn't know that.

Believe it or not, portraying a Jew as a clown only began during the American performances of classic Shakespearean works.

Haier posted:

I live in an area with a high volume of foreigners of all colors and sizes, so my appearance is not something out of the ordinary around here. Kill the old.

Actually you are more different looking from most foreigners than you think

# ? Feb 28, 2017 10:14

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017/02/28/indian-with-chinese-name-on-mykad-was-adopted/

quote:

SEGAMAT: A 34-year-old man, who gained unwanted fame after photos of his MyKad (pic) went viral on social media for purportedly having looks that did not match his name, is indeed a Malaysian.

Netizens had alleged that the man, Pang Chee Pin, was a Bangladeshi as he did not look Chinese.

A visit by The Star to the Segamat Baru address on the MyKad revealed that Pang was brought up by his adoptive Chinese family since he was born, but was no longer staying there.
...
Pang can speak fluent Mandarin, Hakka and Cantonese dialects and went to the same Chinese primary school as Susan.

Imagine being an Indian forced to be around Chinese people at all times, and can understand everything they say. At least they not Mainlanders, therefore much more laid back and cool.

LentThem posted:

Actually you are more different looking from most foreigners than you think

Ah? Why?

# ? Feb 28, 2017 10:21

Pirate Radar: Apr 18, 2008; You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
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Son of Rodney posted:

No, Europeans did and still do it all the time, the concept that it's incredibly racist is something where the US is at the forefront though. Like, when you see someone in Germany running around in blackface (like for fashing) the most liberal people will also say it's incredibly racist, but even generally very liberal people will mostly just kinda scoff at it. "That's a bit distasteful". It simply isn't the same level of scandal in many parts of europe.

I was Spain for 3 Kings festival (the three holy kings from the bible are way more popular than santa in spain, and the big present festival is 8th of january instead of christmas) and the amount of blackface balthazhars is still staggering. Often with blackface helpers, or real african helpers. A couple of generally liberal spanish people I asked told me "yeah well it's a bit racist, but it's not so bad and it's kinda tradition".

Yeah, I mean, maybe I was reading the other post wrong, it seemed like it was saying blackface/yellowface isn't racist when Europeans do it so I was trying to decipher that one.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 10:31

Fleta Mcgurn: Oct 5, 2003; Porpoise noise continues.

Purpleface is the most racist because it really diminishes the struggle that Grimaces face in our society. Of course, not all Grimaces live below the poverty line and do meth, but they tend to be ostracized in their own communities- "Uncle Fries," I believe they're called. Truly heartbreaking to see an ethnic group turn against itself like that.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 10:44

McGavin: Sep 18, 2012

Everybody knows all Grimaces are grapists.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 11:32

simplefish: Mar 28, 2011; So long, and thanks for all the ~~fish~~ gallbladdΣrs!

MY PASSPORT:

Japanese immigration: Flip the page to leave space for my final residency visa to be stuck in next to the other two
Taiwan immigration: gently caress that nice gesture up because WE HAVE TO BE OPPOSITE THE PRC VISA TO MAKE A POINT

# ? Feb 28, 2017 13:20

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

One of my coworkers in Korea did this when i told her I was moving to China. Pulled on her eyes and yelled, "CHING CHONG CHING CHONG!" First response.

But...you were already in Korea

# ? Feb 28, 2017 13:30

peanut: Sep 9, 2007

The lollest part of that is that of all the Asian languages, Korean actually sounds like that.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 13:50

plumpy hole lever: Aug 8, 2003; ♥ Anime is real ♥

you people are kind of dumb and american-centric

the reason why blackface is so offensive in the US is not because dressing up as a charicature is offensive (its not), but because of your deep and troubled history with minstrels shows and the way they legitimised slavery

the rest of the world didnt have the same kind of slavery as you, so blackface is not aasssss problematic in these places

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# ? Feb 28, 2017 15:09

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

very clever with maracas posted:

the rest of the world didnt have the same kind of slavery as you,

LMAO

# ? Feb 28, 2017 15:40

hazardousmouse: Dec 17, 2010

very clever with maracas posted:

you people are kind of dumb and american-centric

the reason why blackface is so offensive in the US is not because dressing up as a charicature is offensive (its not), but because of your deep and troubled history with minstrels shows and the way they legitimised slavery

the rest of the world didnt have the same kind of slavery as you, so blackface is not aasssss problematic in these places

Lol lookit this guy

# ? Feb 28, 2017 15:41

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

very clever with maracas posted:

you people are kind of dumb and american-centric

the reason why blackface is so offensive in the US is not because dressing up as a charicature is offensive (its not), but because of your deep and troubled history with minstrels shows and the way they legitimised slavery

the rest of the world didnt have the same kind of slavery as you, so blackface is not aasssss problematic in these places

# ? Feb 28, 2017 15:41

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

That post is too tailor-made to get Americans to lose their poo poo

# ? Feb 28, 2017 15:46

big time bisexual: Oct 16, 2002; Cool Party

very clever with maracas posted:

the reason why blackface is so offensive in the US is not because dressing up as a charicature is offensive (its not),

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kx6-NzLpf0

race chat RACE CHAT RACE CHAT!!!

# ? Feb 28, 2017 15:50

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

You are like a little baby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftZt-Dw_hQ

# ? Feb 28, 2017 16:01

Pirate Radar: Apr 18, 2008; You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

very clever with maracas posted:

you people are kind of dumb and american-centric

the reason why blackface is so offensive in the US is not because dressing up as a charicature is offensive (its not), but because of your deep and troubled history with minstrels shows and the way they legitimised slavery

the rest of the world didnt have the same kind of slavery as you, so blackface is not aasssss problematic in these places

No, sorry: this is GBS and I have no need to be PC. Blackface is offensive as gently caress.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 16:03

Captain Yossarian: Feb 24, 2011; All new" Rings of Fire"

Raptor1033 posted:

Lol lookit this guy

Haier posted:

LMAO

# ? Feb 28, 2017 16:11

Pham Nuwen: Oct 30, 2010

Let us English posted:

Koreans and Japanese do this on occasion when China is brought up. This may or may not be accompanied by shouts of "ching-chong, ching-chong."

E;f;b

I saw both children and adults do this.

I was watching an Indian movie the other night and in one scene the female lead points to a half-Asian child and says something about "that ching-chong". She wasn't saying anything negative about the kid, she just called him a ching-chong like no big deal. I asked my wife and she said it's not uncommon in India (Haier, can you confirm?)

# ? Feb 28, 2017 16:13

big time bisexual: Oct 16, 2002; Cool Party

speaking of race and racism, this pdf made the rounds at hacker news and /r/china today

https://www.gwern.net/docs/2013-anonymous-strategicconsequencesofchineseracism.pdf

a weapon to surpass metal gear...

# ? Feb 28, 2017 16:23

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

Pham Nuwen posted:

I was watching an Indian movie the other night and in one scene the female lead points to a half-Asian child and says something about "that ching-chong". She wasn't saying anything negative about the kid, she just called him a ching-chong like no big deal. I asked my wife and she said it's not uncommon in India (Haier, can you confirm?)

Indians often have a poor opinion of China based on products and politics (China being great friends with Pakistan, so they can help instigate a war and try to take all of north India that they claim belongs to China since forever or some dumb poo poo). Indians do tend to make fun of each other by their language, so it would make sense they do so for other countries.

Many Indians are really bad/dumb about seeing non-brown Indians. People in Northeast India are very commonly asked if they are Chinese or Japanese. For some reason, Korean dramas got super popular there and many young people got into dressing in Korean fashion, hair, make up, etc., which really doesn't help that.
I used to work around a ton of people from Darjeeling area, which is in northern West Bengal. Though have their own language, they can speak/read/write Bengali as its the state language and taught in schools. They would go down to Kolkata for work or university and get really pissed off at everyone asking if they come from Thailand or China and treating them like they are foreign or exotic. I remember it was even included in a Shah Rukh Khan movie because it was so common (the characters were asked if they were Chinese).

I can go find pictures of these people, I just need to search on social media. I'll post them soon.

big time bisexual posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kx6-NzLpf0

race chat RACE CHAT RACE CHAT!!!

Fastest way to get this thread closed so we can start a new edition.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 16:58

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

Here are the Northeastern Indians that are constantly called "Chinese" by brown Indians. Some are Christian, but most follow some Hindu sect.
I would also like to add that even I (let alone Indians) are a little surprised to hear them speaking some major dialect because the audio-visual component doesn't match up (a little bit like the shock a Chinese would have seeing non-Chinese speaking a local dialect).

BONUS CHUCKLE:

# ? Feb 28, 2017 17:46

hazardousmouse: Dec 17, 2010

Gotta say, hearing Nepalese classmates talk poo poo about the Indian classgoers earned a slight wtf chuckle out of me.

# ? Feb 28, 2017 18:04

OWLS!: Sep 17, 2009; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Haier posted:

With all of the Mainlanders going to universities in and around Boston, the Boston Chinatown really causes them to lose Face:

Not pictured: the string of Taiwanese flags that is hung up along that street.

(I don't think I've ever seen anything BUT Taiwanese flags in Boston Chinatown. The mainlander university kids tend to go hang out around Allston anyways...)

# ? Feb 28, 2017 19:40

Deceitful Penguin: Feb 16, 2011

very clever with maracas posted:

you people are kind of dumb and american-centric

the reason why blackface is so offensive in the US is not because dressing up as a charicature is offensive (its not), but because of your deep and troubled history with minstrels shows and the way they legitimised slavery

the rest of the world didnt have the same kind of slavery as you, so blackface is not aasssss problematic in these places

Look, its not very complicated: The Americans are best at racism. They're the experts. If they say it's racist, it probably is.

We could only dream of committing the racist acts they do or discussing it on their level. They have hundreds of years of racist history to build upon that we, homogeneous that we often are, simply don't have. So just listen to them with an open heart mon frere

# ? Feb 28, 2017 20:16

Captain Yossarian: Feb 24, 2011; All new" Rings of Fire"

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Look, its not very complicated: The Americans are best at racism. They're the experts. If they say it's racist, it probably is.

We could only dream of committing the racist acts they do or discussing it on their level. They have hundreds of years of racist history to build upon that we, homogeneous that we often are, simply don't have. So just listen to them with an open heart mon frere

A DP classic :discourse:

# ? Feb 28, 2017 21:00

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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big time bisexual posted:

speaking of race and racism, this pdf made the rounds at hacker news and /r/china today

https://www.gwern.net/docs/2013-anonymous-strategicconsequencesofchineseracism.pdf

a weapon to surpass metal gear...

there is a dude who has been melting the gently caress down all over the china subreddit because of it

# ? Feb 28, 2017 21:24

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# ? May 15, 2024 13:40

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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"The lying, subhuman degenerates of /r/China link a DoD paper claiming China is an evil han ethnostate and details how to Punish the han chinese for it"

# ? Feb 28, 2017 21:49

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