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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
| Total: | 510 votes | ||
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OwlFancier posted:I think the only PMs we mentioned were Chamberlain and Churchill as part of the WW2 module. No political history outside that. It's a lot easier to talk in terms of the monarch, say Victoria for the Industrial Revolution and the Scramble for Africa and numbered Georges for significant events just before and after, in the same way that you'd talk about various Henries and Jameses in earlier history. iirc it's only because we did a thing on the Suez Canal, which usually gets looked at through the lens of modern history, that Disraeli and Balfour and Eden really came up. e: A hundred was an old way of dividing a region for administrative and political purposes that used to be used in England and Wales.
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Guavanaut posted:I didn't. I think we literally just had Chamberlain and Churchill. We spent about six months on whether or not JFK was assassinated by the CIA though.
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Mar 20, 2017 00:52
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Being bracketed by Churchill hasn't helped his memorability but even beyond his concrete, visible achievements (and those cannot possibly overstated) perhaps the most relevant thing about him for today's climate was that he did all of that while also fighting his own colleagues the entire way. e: also the wjec gcse history syllabus circa the mid-nineties included a module on british and welsh history spanning the period from the depression to the end of attlee's ministry LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Mar 20, 2017 00:58
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We did a pretty heavy focus on the various parliamentary shenanigans between 1880-1922 for obvious enough reasons, so good big chunk of Gladstone, Salisbury, Lloyd George and Bonar Law with a bit on the khaki election, parliament act, liberal split and tariff reform/joseph chamberlain - but that was mainly a level
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Mar 20, 2017 01:02
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I wonder if future generations will have to study the life and times of Jeremy Corbyn?
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:I wonder if future generations will have to study the life and times of Jeremy Corbyn? Future schoolchildren marched through a VR simulation of a squalid flat with a naked Dianne Abbot in it.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:06
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:I wonder if future generations will have to study the life and times of Jeremy Corbyn? Nah, mostly flint knapping, pottery, gathering and hunting, you know, the essentials
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Mar 20, 2017 01:07
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:I wonder if future generations will have to study the life and times of Jeremy Corbyn? Michael Footnote of history.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:06
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Pochoclo posted:Nah, mostly flint knapping, pottery, gathering and hunting, you know, the essentials
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Mar 20, 2017 01:10
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Guavanaut posted:Because of complete social collapse or because of the logical end result of all these "degrees in basket weaving and gender studies, couldn't make it up" and "why are they teaching our kids trigonometry and cellular biology instead of [growing food|doing taxes|loving are country|insert personal bias]" types? Complete destruction of modern civilisation. Also flint knapping is actually loving hard to get right.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:13
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Guavanaut posted:Because of complete social collapse or because of the logical end result of all these "degrees in basket weaving and gender studies, couldn't make it up" and "why are they teaching our kids trigonometry and cellular biology instead of [growing food|doing taxes|loving are country|insert personal bias]" types? The latter leads to the former so, "yes".
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Mar 20, 2017 01:14
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kustomkarkommando posted:We did a pretty heavy focus on the various parliamentary shenanigans between 1880-1922 for obvious enough reasons, so good big chunk of Gladstone, Salisbury, Lloyd George and Bonar Law with a bit on the khaki election, parliament act, liberal split and tariff reform/joseph chamberlain - but that was mainly a level We had this and I went to school in the US. Also Lord North of course.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:18
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Pochoclo posted:Complete destruction of modern civilisation   spectralent posted:The latter leads to the former so, "yes".
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Mar 20, 2017 01:21
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Some of the old Modern History GCSE Syllabi covered the post war Labour government and the creation of the welfare state/ NHS in particular. (There were basically two GCSE structures, the specifics of which varied from exam board to exam board. These were Modern History and SHP. In The New Order, there is only one GCSE History (with exam board/ options variants) which brings us all, and in the darkness, binds us) KS3 history varies wildly from school to school and often will have small variations within departments.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:23
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We spent most of a year doing medical history. Which was fun if not very applicable.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:35
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Pochoclo posted:Complete destruction of modern civilisation. Also flint knapping is actually loving hard to get right. Depends what you mean by 'get right'. It's not too hard to get a useful edged flake, well hard to make a perfect replica pressure flaked backed blade. If you can get hold of decent sized bits glass is a good practice medium, same conchoidal flaking but more predictable cos less flaws. Source: I'm a fairly poo poo knapper but have known some amazing ones. This guy was mind blowingly fast and good. It's a good book.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:37
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In fairness school probably should explain the role and mechanism of taxation, especially since many adults appear not to understand it.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:39
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For preference school should indoctrinate you into socialism but we can't have everything.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:40
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Parents should teach their children life skills like taxation, except lots of parents have a shaky grasp of those things and don't really have the time or ability to teach them well anyway.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:41
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Lt. Danger posted:Parents should teach their children life skills like taxation, except lots of parents have a shaky grasp of those things and don't really have the time or ability to teach them well anyway. I don't trust "parents should do X" because a lot of parents are poo poo and your chances of understanding important life skills shouldn't depend on winning the birth lottery.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:44
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I do not approve of free market solutions to child welfare.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:44
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spectralent posted:In fairness school probably should explain the role and mechanism of taxation, especially since many adults appear not to understand it. The "how to purify water" stuff gets me, because in addition to most kids probably not becoming survivalists, it's a whole module in most chemistry syllabuses.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:47
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OwlFancier posted:For preference school should indoctrinate you into socialism but we can't have everything. In the GCSE History module for the Soviet Union, there are essays where you have to argue if Stalin was actually good
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Mar 20, 2017 01:57
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OwlFancier posted:We spent most of a year doing medical history. That was one of the SHP options (and what I did).
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Mar 20, 2017 01:58
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and i must meme posted:In the GCSE History module for the Soviet Union, there are essays where you have to argue if Stalin was actually good
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Mar 20, 2017 02:00
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These days, that's probably just a PREVENT honeypot.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:01
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Uh if school teaches you how to be good at computer instead you can pay someone else to do all those things for you.  
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Mar 20, 2017 02:05
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Guavanaut posted:HorseLord: Origin Looking into the bitesize page for the history modules is pretty interesting bitesize posted:Organisation - the Red Guards, organised by the brilliant Trotsky, were well-trained and ruthless. They took over the government almost bloodlessly and almost without anyone noticing. how far has the trot infiltration gone?
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Mar 20, 2017 02:13
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and i must meme posted:my sister is (or was, i guess, she's more critical lately) also a recent corbyn fan In the last two General Elections we have learned that the one thing less likely to keep the Tories out than voting Lib Dem is having voted Lib Dem last time.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:14
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I had a taxi driver enthusiastically talk at me about Brexit last night. My Chinese isn't great so I didn't get some of the finer points but his main point was "why do British people think Britain is special when it's only the third best country in Europe?"
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Mar 20, 2017 05:25
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Baron Corbyn posted:I had a taxi driver enthusiastically talk at me about Brexit last night. My Chinese isn't great so I didn't get some of the finer points but his main point was "why do British people think Britain is special when it's only the third best country in Europe?" it's because british people aren't that bright and fell for the pied piper Farage 
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Al-Saqr posted:it's because british people aren't that bright This is the answer to >75% of questions asked in this thread that start with "Why...?"
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and i must meme posted:In the GCSE History module for the Soviet Union, there are essays where you have to argue if Stalin was actually good Saving Europe from the Nazis sounds pretty good to me. Can we make him PM?
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I ended up learning basically everything I know about Ramsay MacDonald (the good, the bad and the ugly (i.e. "National Labour")) from a handful of posts in the Ask/Tell Military History thread. If nothing else it tied together a few interesting links from my GCSE history study of the Weimar Republic - did not know that he was an important negotiator on things like the Dawes and Young plans. Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Mar 20, 2017 08:41
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OwlFancier posted:We spent most of a year doing medical history. that one doctor with a 300% fatality rate in a single surgery is fun to study
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Mar 20, 2017 09:33
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Lots of twitter rumours about a snap general election on May 4th. Probably will come to nothing, but do we have a thread consensus on how that would pan out?
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Mar 20, 2017 09:47
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Pissflaps posted:Lots of twitter rumours about a snap general election on May 4th. Terribly. Not calling an early election would be a mistake by May on a par with Brown not calling for one soon after he became leader. I hope she makes it.
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Mar 20, 2017 09:50
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TomViolence posted:That loving grotesque, every time he types out an article I want someone to go round with a hammer and break his fingers. Not a healthy way to sublimate guilt felt at your support of the grotesquely incompetent Corbyn and his total inability to provide anything more than paper mache resistance to Tories Gone Wild. Even the most die-hard Corbynite surely must admit that all the self-exculpatory defeatist talk about how it's all the media's fault is 180 degrees removed from the initial heady enthusiasm about how Corbyn would usher in a political revolution as energized new voters swept Labour to victory. Why should we trust the judgement on the question of Corbyn's culpability and the best way forward for Labour from people who were so catastrophically wrong about those very same questions back in 2015?
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Mar 20, 2017 10:01
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Pissflaps posted:Lots of twitter rumours about a snap general election on May 4th.
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Could go in several ways. but it wouldnt change who is the majority. Ukip might die off completely, LDs might get more to crown off their crawlback, greens might get a single and some trades between Labour and tories is inevitable. Of course im assuming similar turnout to the last GE. (Significantly) Higher turnout among non voters can gently caress over any guess. A lot more people are politically engaged, even if it is just for the subject of brexit. Itll come down to the individual campaigns the parties do. Though ill be betting hard that the tories would run a bush-style dont change the rider campaign. "From the brilliant minds that brought you brexit" Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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