So I put all five of my bartz on one team to quickly grind up a double hand for my Olive. Up to a collective 35%  I mean I'll probably regret not getting more than one double hand at some point so maybe I'll split one off when it comes time to fuse them.
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Nuebot posted:So I put all five of my bartz on one team to quickly grind up a double hand for my Olive. Up to a collective 35% Bartz is 3* so you will pull more of him. I had 6 Bartz, fused them all after grinding to 17% on 5 of them, that was back in December. Since then I've pulled 3 more.
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Mar 20, 2017 09:40
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PaybackJack posted:Bartz is 3* so you will pull more of him. I had 6 Bartz, fused them all after grinding to 17% on 5 of them, that was back in December. Since then I've pulled 3 more. Counterpoint: I've only pulled two ever. I'm at 614k points, and I realized... why even struggle with more tedious ELT? if I do PRO the rest of the time I'll get everything, and heck, I pulled an Y'shtola already anyway.
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Mar 20, 2017 10:01
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Anybody still using my Marie or should I switch back to 11.5K Olive?
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Mar 20, 2017 10:06
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Dana Crysalis posted:Counterpoint: I've only pulled two ever. Elite gives more points, more points=more raid coins=more raid summons. I'm sure you don't really need them but for those of us without many TMs having multiples of all three units' TMs is pretty helpful.
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Mar 20, 2017 11:30
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43 Thancred to 6 Minfilia. Do not do ELT unless it's a piece of guaranteed cake for you to earn more than (currently) 6k points out of it.
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Mar 20, 2017 12:40
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Khisanth Magus posted:My problem wasn't really so much in staying alive, since I assume you are taking about the baraerora recipe there. Until I got unlucky with some hits, and possibly a crit, against Refia I had no problems surviving for a long time, I was just doing such anemic damage to him that it would have taken like 20 minutes or more to deplete his health. You may want to grind for levels then, I guess. A Big Dark Yak posted:Okay, is there a way that I, as a filthy no-macro/no-TRM (except for Thancred's, of course) casual who's never drawn a 5★ base character in many months of playing this game, can reliably farm PRO Ifrit? Ling's job is to inflict status effects and debuffs. If you have her, you should be using her to keep Ifrit locked down, and rely on goonfriend Olives and Noctii and other heavy hitters.
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Mar 20, 2017 12:55
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Ling is fantastic until her daunting step fails to land and you forgot to have Noctis back her up with Warp Break. Then Refia gets smoked on the next turn and that's all she wrote.
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Mar 20, 2017 13:01
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Here is a nicely done Raid event calculator: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UCf7jf65naJsLqVgWlMZywK2djaeHYpytiprHBh065c/edit#gid=1248627156 Use it via (File -> Make a copy) and input your stuff into the orange boxes. With 500k points already, 7x ELT runs a day are enough to easily get all the points for the Moogle. Thats good to know. 
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Mar 20, 2017 13:50
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Khisanth Magus posted:Well, that is kind of an abrupt block in the story. I've been relying on friends for boss battles, but ran into Veritas of the Heavens in Ambel, who you have to fight with no friends.. I'm honestly not sure what to do, I guess just grind levels? Running a party of Noctis, Cecil, Chizuru, Exdeath, and Refia, but the only one who I've awakened at all is exdeath up to 4*. Characters are in their mid 30s-40s, with the best equipment I can have at this point in the story without TMs. Am I just going to be spending a week grinding the beach for xp? You are in for a bad time. It took me weeks/a month to get past that fight, the only thing I can suggest is getting whoever you can awakened to 6 to increase your damage output. Also, you don't have a full breaker in that group. Full break turns that into easy mode. Rain gets that ability, under another name, later at 6*. I eventually got a Vaan, and he only awakens to 5*. Rain Vaan Faris Guy Ingus Sazh Warrior of Light Agrias Also you need baraeora which was danced around in an earlier comment.
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Mar 20, 2017 13:56
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Well... I finally got Y'shtola. The hard way.   She's already at 65% trust mastery from her devoted legion of trust moogles...
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A Big Dark Yak posted:Okay, is there a way that I, as a filthy no-macro/no-TRM (except for Thancred's, of course) casual who's never drawn a 5★ base character in many months of playing this game, can reliably farm PRO Ifrit? As others have mentioned, you really want to be using Ling; her status dance will almost always land Paralyze on the first turn, and then you follow that up with her Def/Spr break to crank your damage up. If you have a beefy friend unit, the fight's over at this point. Ling's just an amazing unit in general.
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Mar 20, 2017 14:08
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hagie posted:You are in for a bad time. It took me weeks/a month to get past that fight, the only thing I can suggest is getting whoever you can awakened to 6 to increase your damage output. Also, check and see if you have the recipe for the hero ring yet. Craft a few of them and your DPS should spike. You have to grind out some fire and ice megacrysts, but that's what maranda coast and dwarfs forge explorations are for.
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Khisanth Magus posted:Well, that is kind of an abrupt block in the story. I've been relying on friends for boss battles, but ran into Veritas of the Heavens in Ambel, who you have to fight with no friends.. I'm honestly not sure what to do, I guess just grind levels? Running a party of Noctis, Cecil, Chizuru, Exdeath, and Refia, but the only one who I've awakened at all is exdeath up to 4*. Characters are in their mid 30s-40s, with the best equipment I can have at this point in the story without TMs. Am I just going to be spending a week grinding the beach for xp? Blast Noctis to 80 so you can get Point Warp. You can win the fight just using Point Warp every turn, shouldn't need anything else fancy.
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Does Gilgamesh get stronger after each Bushido Freedom even if I dispel him? I'm using Dana's dodge tank Lightning, so her getting past the 3rd Bushido Freedom is the win condition. The first one is easy, and easy to set up for - Noel uses Bring it On to draw the IK, Noctis either jumps or uses Warp Decoy, Refia uses Mirage, Chizuru uses Hayate and Dana pushes him past the threshold. Noel dies and the rest dodge. Refia revives and dispels (Chizuru can dispel too if I screw up and Refia needs to heal more) then we truck along until 50%. I can usually get through that one okay, but between there and 30% Dana's/Noel's provoke seems to get weaker somehow and everyone but Dana dies leading to an unrecoverable situation. Chizuru is probably my biggest liability on that team, is there anyone I can replace her with? I have a Ling I haven't bothered to level or gear up yet...
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Mar 20, 2017 15:36
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Gilgamesh does indeed get stronger after 50%, when you start needing to use electricity. His damage goes up by 10% which, on something as strong as him, is pretty noticeable and can tip the scale towards death from too many X-slashes. Also, seems like level 21 Ifrit is the highest we'll hit. Not bad doing a couple billions of damage with what we have on Global.
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Mar 20, 2017 15:59
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When this is all over I look forward to seeing a calculation on how much the top players spent on lapis refreshes. I wonder the same about arena, not uncommon to see low ranks being extremely high, with poo poo for units. This is the kind of game addiction they need in the DSM.
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Mar 20, 2017 16:08
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~2000 lapis to hit 1.2 Million, assuming you can farm PRO.... a third of that if you're ELT-capable. Edit: Switched over to Minnie. I'll finish leveling her as NRG allows. Enjoy her in all her Curaja-countering, Fire-nullifying, super-boosting glory. 
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Mar 20, 2017 16:10
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It's gotten to the point where my team can regularly clear ELT... provided Ling's attack debuff sticks most of the time. Otherwise Vulcan Beat bowls over Refia, even though she has over 5000 HP.
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Skyridge posted:It's gotten to the point where my team can regularly clear ELT... provided Ling's attack debuff sticks most of the time. Otherwise Vulcan Beat bowls over Refia, even though she has over 5000 HP. Do you bring a 2nd breaker? Doubling up on breaks made ELT really consistent for me. Bringing Minfilia made it consistently under 6 turns too. Minfilia MVP.
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Mar 20, 2017 17:30
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If you buy Lapis through Apple, here's a $100 ITunes card for $85. http://m.ebay.com/itm/282397162064?...1&ul_noapp=true
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Mar 20, 2017 18:28
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I'm about 40% through lapis refreshing 5 Kefkas. gently caress all that status ailment cancer in arena.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:51
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Varance posted:~2000 lapis to hit 1.2 Million, assuming you can farm PRO.... a third of that if you're ELT-capable. Was there ever a consensus on her counter materia stacking with itself or other counter materia? dangerous.hotdog posted:I'm about 40% through lapis refreshing 5 Kefkas. gently caress all that status ailment cancer in arena. It's the only way non-TMR grinders have to win, bro...
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Mar 20, 2017 19:55
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:It's the only way non-TMR grinders have to win, bro... Well, if it's any consolation, my team is just 4 or 5 casters so pretty much anyone should be able to beat them. 
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dangerous.hotdog posted:Do you bring a 2nd breaker? Doubling up on breaks made ELT really consistent for me. Bringing Minfilia made it consistently under 6 turns too. Minfilia MVP. Under six turns? What the heck damage are you putting out? It takes me 10 minutes per ELT, sometimes more if unlucky. Luckily I don't need to run ELT anymore unless I get antsy to complete the raid sooner.
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There needs to be a way to borrow a Y'shalto early just so I can dump all her trust moogles out of my inventory. I'd let Gumi keep one of my extra Lightnings as collateral until I get her. In small sample size news, I feel I'm getting Dance of Death'd way more in arena this week than last.
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I've sent off some goon friend requests (stairs in my message and everything), added Ling to the team, and started following the attack plan advice. PRO Ifrit goes down, first try, without taking a single action. Thanks so much for the help!
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 Reminder for people who can't beat ELT Ifrit, you can use the Escape skill to 'win' the fight so if you want to burn an ifrit orb to get the Lapis from ELT (and you should) that's how to do it. Go in to the fight, have your non-Escape units take whatever actions to meet the requirements for the bonus lapis, then after everything's resolved you use Escape.CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Was there ever a consensus on her counter materia stacking with itself or other counter materia? An Exdeath squad works just fine for 0 TMR arena murder, as long as you don't get debuff hosed by a unit like Ling or Noctis. Weeks without dualcast or black magic is annoying since lots of stuff can potentially survive 3-4 chained wicked lights (or earthshakers).
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Dana Crysalis posted:Under six turns? What the heck damage are you putting out? It takes me 10 minutes per ELT, sometimes more if unlucky. Luckily I don't need to run ELT anymore unless I get antsy to complete the raid sooner. Just Olive, Shattering Shot and the +100% ATK buff (and a tiny chain with Warp Break). She hits for around 700k if Shattering Shot sticks and she doesn't get hit with the ATK break. Her LB absolutely rapes Ifrit and Cecil with Black Belt is handy for building LBs. dangerous.hotdog fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Yo, Toonman, your Olive finally let me beat ELT. I've been getting it to half health all day but yours is the first time I managed to kill it. Although there was a lot of luck involved with Vulcan Bursts not landing paralyze. Also I finally bit the bullet and installed Nox. However, it's trying to go through the Tutorial and rename my account against despite me logging in, is that normal?
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Hmmm. My Chizuru and Exdeath are both almost maxed 4*. Should I awaken them immediately and know I'm going to be spending a few days at least releveling them up to useful, or leave them at Max for a bit...
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Khisanth Magus posted:Hmmm. My Chizuru and Exdeath are both almost maxed 4*. Should I awaken them immediately and know I'm going to be spending a few days at least releveling them up to useful, or leave them at Max for a bit... Ya, I'd rush to awaken and level them ASAP. The power difference from each rarity is pretty massive since all the really good skills like Dualcast or Phantom Shadow are locked to their highest rarity & levels. It's a pain in the rear end, especially when you're new and have to suffer through that small awakening power dip, but it's definitely worth it.
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What the gently caress is up with all this character-exclusive gear taking 1+ actual days to craft? 3 days to make a drat catgirl shirt. Does her weapon take 3 days too? If so, making two of those is gonna suuuuck. At least it only took me about 250 raid pulls to actually get Y'shtola though, so small favors.
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Ifrit pull 332 and I finally got whats-her-name, and have enough moogles to get her to 50% TMR. Woo hoo
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Are you guys counting every 100 coins spent as a pull? Because I'm at 51 Thanc and 3 Thanc TM, 6 Minfilia, and gently caress the RNG of so many of you.
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I've got 2 Thancred TMRs so far and I think my 3rd is 45%?
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MrLonghair posted:Are you guys counting every 100 coins spent as a pull? Because I'm at 51 Thanc and 3 Thanc TM, 6 Minfilia, and gently caress the RNG of so many of you. Yes, every 100 coins is one pull. I honestly wasn't even expecting to get her. Now I just need the rest of the materials to make the gear and the exclusive awakening materials. 1.5 thancred TMRs and minfilia and y'shotla both at about 50%
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HGH posted:Yo, Toonman, your Olive finally let me beat ELT.  I finally decided that Marie, while entirely too fabulous probably wouldn't get used as much as Olive. Don't worry though, Marie will still:  
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But yeah about this Nox macro thing, launching the game is taking me through the tutorial/account creation, did I gently caress something up?
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/\/\/\ It won't let you sign in to Facebook? Even from the sign in screen? Yeah, probably something is wrong. Everything works fine on mine. Okay, so you can't actually craft Y'shtola and Minfilia's exclusive materias, you get a copy directly. If I slap a Black Belt on her, will that stack, and make it 50% likely to retaliate with a heal? CAPT. Rainbowbeard fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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