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I have finished my Warpath pledge, all 3 battleforces. I have a blister on my thumb from where the brush rests. I already posted the Asterians, but here are my Enforcers and Forge Fathers in full.            signalnoise posted:Speaking of which Wish I had time to. 
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Atlas Hugged posted:Wish I had time to. Hey man, any time you can scrape out a few minutes, just let me know. I am not going to finish this by myself, and I say that as a choice. I COULD do it all myself, but gently caress that. Most of the data entry is done though, and I'm willing to do all the data entry, I just need people to bounce ideas off of. Asynchronous is fine, too. But yeah, the project is just waiting for a collaborator or two. There's no boat to miss. I can pick it up whenever. Other repos do already exist, but I find them... lacking
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Mar 22, 2017 14:48
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signalnoise posted:Hey man, any time you can scrape out a few minutes, just let me know. Sure. My PM box is open whenever you want to shoot something my way. I can probably get to anything you send me within a day or two. The boy is making sounds that are lot like words and has discovered that he can stand up from a seated position under his own power so things are about to get a lot more hectic on my end.
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Mar 22, 2017 14:56
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Atlas Hugged posted:I have finished my Warpath pledge, all 3 battleforces. I have a blister on my thumb from where the brush rests. I already posted the Asterians, but here are my Enforcers and Forge Fathers in full. The white on your Enforcers looks real good. How much of a pain in the rear end was it to make it look that crisp? Meantime I am sitting on 3 battleforces that are completely unpainted, save for a Blaine paintjob that I'm really not satisfied with.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:10
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Drone posted:The white on your Enforcers looks real good. How much of a pain in the rear end was it to make it look that crisp? A real, real pain. After I finished my Deadzone Enforcers I realized what a huge mistake I had made but I'm stubborn as a drunk mule and powered through. There's a reason why I saved them for last. My Blaine is a pink alien in blue armor. Sure why not. Edit: You'll notice my jetbikes have two different patterns. That's because after the first two that were more white than red I realized I just didn't have the mental fortitude to do that two more times and swapped the red and white sections.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:14
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Drone posted:The white on your Enforcers looks real good. How much of a pain in the rear end was it to make it look that crisp? Airbrushing white makes it super simple. It will still take 3-4 coats, but it's fast and easy. (Airbrush alternative, a rattle can of white.)
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Finally got my dwarfs assembled after a few weeks of nights and weekends. I've decided to multi-base everything in minimum unit sizes that I'd want. These can then be combined into larger units as needed. All 151 models (not counting the chests that go with the siege engines): A few pains-in-the-rear end so far:
Still quite a bit more prep work before I can prime them. I'm hoping to get prep work done by the end of the month, but all this grey/silver is weighing on me. So, I made a little basing sample (front-and-center in the photo) to get some color in back in my hobby life...
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Mar 23, 2017 02:50
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HerrBrau posted:Clipping off those round Mantic bases sucks. I did about 20 this evening after the photo. 96 to go... Get a razor saw
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Mar 23, 2017 02:52
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Alternatively, and it's too late now but just something for others to think about or for the future, you can get movement trays that have the circular recesses cut into them. You'll still have to gap fill a bit, but that's likely easier and less messy than cutting the circular tabs off. Either way, thank god Mantic stopped that bullshit.
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Mar 23, 2017 03:24
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signalnoise posted:Get a razor saw
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Mar 23, 2017 03:45
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HerrBrau posted:I have an Xacto one, but I find the clipping is faster (though, less clean). And it's tough to hold the minis steady while sawing. IMO hold the mini against a cutting mat. It's easier than holding it in the air. Start at the thinnest part of the feet. You can also accomplish flat feet by clipping away most of the disc and then sanding the nubs away. If you do clip, use a flush cutter. What are you clipping with?
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Mar 23, 2017 04:32
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signalnoise posted:IMO hold the mini against a cutting mat. It's easier than holding it in the air. Start at the thinnest part of the feet. You can also accomplish flat feet by clipping away most of the disc and then sanding the nubs away. If you do clip, use a flush cutter. What are you clipping with? I was cutting against the mat with the saw, but holding the mini steady would make my knuckles sore after a bit. Some kind of soft grip vise would be ideal...
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What I'm doing this weekNTRabbit posted:I, NTRabbit, oath to paint for March
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Mar 23, 2017 16:34
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NTRabbit posted:What I'm doing this week Prehistoric siege howdah? That paracerathium model is awesome.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:35
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Ogre Army Standard Bearer on chariot! So far I'm avoiding the use of chariots for my chariots, I did get some 4ground Japanese style carts to convert and use with some smaller animals from Acheson (Aurochs, Bison, Daedon), but they don't really work, and I think Ogres riding on real prehistoric animals works better anyway. My siege howdah is going on the back of an equally awesome Deinotherium from Acheson another month  http://www.achesoncreations.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=category&virtuemart_category_id=68 Shipping isn't great for outside of the US unless you make a big order, but if prehistoric animals are your itch, they do one hell of a job scratching it NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 16:46
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Oh my god I need these. I have no idea what for as I have a pile of monsters already and not enough basic troops for anything but these are great. They even have a raptor with feathers!
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Mar 23, 2017 16:55
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They just ran a KS to fund some new molds too https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/244627251/primaeval-designs?ref=nav_search New kind of feathered raptor included!  And a foot long Camarasaurus that doesn't even fit in KoW but I still want it  Put massive side hanging howdahs with siege weapons on it Dinoriders style, cover it with Goblins and a command Ogre, call it a Chariot horde 
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Shopping question: If I buy the rulebooks for Warpath/Firefight (end of next month), and Deadzone 2nd (right now), can I then play those games direct from the rulebooks, or do I also need to burn cash on the tokens and fancy dice and other peripheral stuff before I can play those games? Also, is it better to grab the digital versions so I can always grab an up-to-date copy, or the hardcopy so I have a physical thing to flick through?
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Mar 24, 2017 13:37
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mcjomar posted:Shopping question: Both of them have custom dice and you'll also want counters, but beyond that you're good for Warpath. Deadzone has a map you'll want, and you need terrain for that game. Warpath you can use whatever, but for Deadzone the terrain is made specifically for that game system due to dimensions.
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Mar 24, 2017 13:39
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Isn't there a table in the rulebooks that lets you convert normal D10's into command dice?
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Mar 24, 2017 13:45
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Drone posted:Isn't there a table in the rulebooks that lets you convert normal D10's into command dice? You can convert normal dice to command dice, the only special thing you'll need to buy is d8s to play Deadzone, as that's the main dice used, and I'm pretty sure most people don't just already have cubes of them sitting around like they do with d6s. Deadzone = d8 with special d6 command dice Warpath/Firefight = d6 with special d8 command dice
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Mar 24, 2017 13:51
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signalnoise posted:Both of them have custom dice and you'll also want counters, but beyond that you're good for Warpath. Deadzone has a map you'll want, and you need terrain for that game. Warpath you can use whatever, but for Deadzone the terrain is made specifically for that game system due to dimensions. If there is a table to convert D8s or whatever into command dice, then I guess I could just use my own counters (I mean, as long as my opponent knows what's happening, right?) and then just grab the warpath/firefight set? Not sure about Deadzone if I need a special mat/terrain specifically for that then. I guess I'll give it a miss for now and wait for april 22nd to roll around. Thanks!
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Mar 24, 2017 13:52
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Deadzone is a very 3 dimensional game, and it's built around a 3" cube system to eliminate the need for rulers. The game mats have a 3" grid printed on them, and the Mantic terrain is kind of a lego set made from 3" squares, plus other more detailed stuff that attaches, though anyone with a laser cutter can make their own stuff that fits.
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Mar 24, 2017 13:57
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The 3" cube stuff is both a big plus and an equally-sized minus for DZ, I've found.
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mcjomar posted:If there is a table to convert D8s or whatever into command dice, then I guess I could just use my own counters (I mean, as long as my opponent knows what's happening, right?) and then just grab the warpath/firefight set? Deadzone is played on an 8x8 grid since all movement and shooting is ranged in squares. A unit of Mantic terrain fits neatly into a square of the grid. The terrain's height is also tiered at even intervals so everyone on level 2 is on the same level 2 which matters because the game uses true line of sight. However, while vertical levels matter, the horizontal dimensions are meaningless. You could place a three square long wall neatly across three squares. Or you could put it down diagonally. When you move a model, you move it a number of squares equal to its movement, but you can place the model anywhere in the square. Other than moving up and down levels and through gaps, there's nothing in the rules about neatly placed terrain. But yes, for Deadzone you do need the 8x8 mat and terrain that is divided into the same height segments, though it wouldn't have to be Mantic terrain. The Deadzone starter box is a really great way to, well, start, but if you don't want Mantic models then yeah, buying it piecemeal adds up quickly and maybe you should skip it. For Warpath/Firefight, you need the rules, D6s and D8s. You will largely be rolling D6s and you'll need a number of D8s equal to your command pool, which you generate based on what units you pick. Theoretically, you could pick units that didn't generate command dice and you wouldn't need any. You'll also need tokens to show that a unit has been activated, if it's taken suppressing fire, if it has shields, or if it's on overwatch. But again you don't need official Mantic tokens. You could just print out a bunch of squares with each one saying activated, shields, suppression, or overwatch. You could use pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters. I mean, if you wanted to be super frugal, all you need is D6s. Roll a D6. 1-3 is "low", 4-6" is high. Now roll the D6 again. For a low spread, just reroll 5 or 6. For a high, add 4 to the roll (so 1 becomes 5, 2 becomes 6, and so on) and reroll 9 and 10. I prefer physical copies of books. I like to flick back and forth and digital just doesn't do it for me yet.
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Atlas Hugged posted:For Warpath/Firefight, you need the rules, D6s and D8s. You will largely be rolling D6s and you'll need a number of D8s equal to your command pool, which you generate based on what units you pick. Wait so there are special D6's as well? I mean, if there are charts to convert those two into the relevant results, then I've already got a bunch of normal versions of both of those, from having grabbed a bunch of RPG dice from other sources before. Worst comes to worst I guess at a later date I could grab the command dice as well. RE: Tokens, it's a combination of minimising cost, and I don't like to have too much extra stuff floating around the gaming table, so the less there is outside of minis and dice, the happier I am.
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mcjomar posted:Wait so there are special D6's as well? No no, there are no special d6s for Warpath/Firefight, those are regular d6s The special d6s are for Deadzone and again, chart in the back of the rulebook. 
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mcjomar posted:Wait so there are special D6's as well? NTRabbit posted:No no, there are no special d6s for Warpath/Firefight, those are regular d6s Yeah, sorry that wasn't clear. In Warpath/Firefight you make to hit and to damage rolls on D6s like 40k. Special D8s are used for command. In Deadzone you use D8s to resolve actions and special D6s for command. Having stuff floating on the table is unfortunately necessary in Warpath/Firefight. Unit activation alternates between players, so you need to mark if a unit has already been activated or not that turn or if it was activated and placed on overwatch (effectively delaying its action until later in the turn) since it's the kind of thing that's easy to forget. You could get away with not having tokens for shields. That's just so your opponent knows without asking every time he shoots. But you'll definitely need something to stand in for suppression tokens because those accumulate and have effects based on the number of tokens you have.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Yeah, sorry that wasn't clear. In Warpath/Firefight you make to hit and to damage rolls on D6s like 40k. Special D8s are used for command. In Deadzone you use D8s to resolve actions and special D6s for command. Okay, for the suppression thing I guess I could pick a certain colour of dice nobody on the table is using (my see-through red dice might work for this) and just stack it up each time they accumulate? Not sure about the rest. I've got a semi-reasonable spread of dice types/colours, as do a lot of the gamers at my club, so I guess I can use a number of my spare dice for this sort of thing? But yeah if the D8 chart exists I'm good on that front then.
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mcjomar posted:Okay, for the suppression thing I guess I could pick a certain colour of dice nobody on the table is using (my see-through red dice might work for this) and just stack it up each time they accumulate? You wouldn't even need to stack the dice. Just use the pips on the dice to show how many suppression tokens the unit has received. Placing colored dice for activations is perfect. You could even try to use the same colors as the official tokens since they're pictured in the book.
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Atlas Hugged posted:You wouldn't even need to stack the dice. Just use the pips on the dice to show how many suppression tokens the unit has received. Cool I guess I'll use spare/other coloured dice as my tokens then, and just grab myself a copy of the WP/FF ruleset when it comes out at the end of April. I'm really tempted by digital, if only because it suggests in the product description that digital will be a living rulebook, so I can (hopefully) rely on constant updates to the PDF, which I can just download to phone/tablet/kindle and refer to as needed (I already do this for fan-made content, such as Heralds of Ruin, or Yaktribe-made stuff, so this isn't much of a stretch for me). E: new question, what do the various warpath armies translate as? Or what would I translate my remaining 40k (I'm selling stuff off) armies into? I have some remaining marines, guard, tau, and eldar. Eldar become the Asterians, that's easy Marines become... forge fathers? Or enforcers? (I'd be tempted to do the latter). Guard are those 'new' GCPS, those guys are the standard corporate infantry, right? And Tau...? Rebs maybe? Something else? mcjomar fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Hell, just turn the leader model around or something to show that the unit has activated.
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mcjomar posted:E: new question, what do the various warpath armies translate as? It's intentionally less obvious than fantasy because for whatever reason people expect a sci-fi universe to be fully-fledged but are OK with elves being elves when people are swinging swords. Eldar are obvious, but Dark Eldar fit just as well. Marines can be either Forge Fathers or Enforcers. It really depends on which list you like better. Do you want to take a flamer and heavy bolter in every tactical squad? Forge Fathers. Do you want to focus on speed and mobility? Enforcers. Guard are obviously GCPS. Tau could be Enforcers or Asterians. Their focus on suits probably makes them more Enforcer than Asterian since the Asterians don't have an equivalent. Since they can throw garbage melee infantry into the mix, Tau could also be Forge Fathers. spacegoat posted:Hell, just turn the leader model around or something to show that the unit has activated. This is really clever and I'm mad I didn't think of it.
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What is the best source for movement trays for Kings of War? I don't really think I would have a chance to play anytime soon, but I would like to get my Beastmen ready all the same.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:What is the best source for movement trays for Kings of War? I don't really think I would have a chance to play anytime soon, but I would like to get my Beastmen ready all the same. Mantic themselves make plastic movement trays for the common unit sizes and MDF bases for the less common ones (large infantry). The Mantic trays come as horde trays but are scored on the reverse side to make cutting them down into regiments and troops easy.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:What is the best source for movement trays for Kings of War? I don't really think I would have a chance to play anytime soon, but I would like to get my Beastmen ready all the same.
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UK: warbases.co.uk all day, every day.
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I am yet to purchase the books for warpath and firefight. I have a pile of dwarf bikers from a Kickstarter and was wondering if a mostly/all biker forgefathers army would be possible. I have some infantry frOm the deadzone Kickstarter but bikes would be cool.
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JackMack posted:I am yet to purchase the books for warpath and firefight. I have a pile of dwarf bikers from a Kickstarter and was wondering if a mostly/all biker forgefathers army would be possible. I have some infantry frOm the deadzone Kickstarter but bikes would be cool. Well there's nothing stopping you from doing it; 2-6 Valkyrs per team (60 pts +27 per) in Firefight, 2 Valkyrs per team (85pts) and 1-5 teams per unit in Warpath, and in Firefight you can buy a unit leader to get command dice. Could even get some Hultr Halftracks, which look like big armoured trikes, as heavier backup in future, 135pts per in Firefight, and a formation of 1-3 for 90pts each in Warpath. Perfectly legit army composition. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Great to know. Thanks! I should get on building these bikers
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