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anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

coyo7e posted:

Don't worry, all the white people will just claim he was actually a leftist in drag, trying to torpedo Trump. Just like they did a day or so ago with that KKK flag on a building back east.

But I am disappointed in you apants, that story is like two weeks old almost now. You usually are the first on top of stuff.
The article is longer than a sentence, if you can believe that!

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coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
...ok?

still ten days+ old story though. It was pretty well-circulated that there were a bunch of legit, known nazis and kk and poo poo in that rally when it was still the "screaming girl" thing.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

coyo7e posted:

...ok?

still ten days+ old story though. It was pretty well-circulated that there were a bunch of legit, known nazis and kk and poo poo in that rally when it was still the "screaming girl" thing.
Okay.

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man
"Concerned patrons called police."

"....and the nazis' phones started ringing"

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

anthonypants posted:

If you "disrupt" any public city meeting in Portland you may get kicked out of future meetings for a few months: http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/03/02/18874290/disrupt-a-city-meeting-you-might-soon-face-a-months-long-exclusion

If that sounds familiar to you, it may be because someone sued the city against this practice a few years ago: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/12/federal_judge_finds_portland_m.html
Hell yes
https://twitter.com/dirquez/status/842110642634940416

e: loving lmao https://twitter.com/dirquez/status/842113642401153024

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
What's a stemwinder?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Cicero posted:

What's a stemwinder?

Google turns up two definitions. I'm thinking he meant this one: a watch wound by turning a knob on the end of a stem.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
sounds kind of like some sort of speech where you build up steam and wind up the crowd?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
Amanda Fritz is now claiming that her current opinion regarding all-gender bathrooms, which she publicly changed last month, came about as a result of a complaint someone made in October of last year, where a cop was "using the toilet with the stall door ajar." http://www.portlandmercury.com/blog...-user-restrooms

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
Outlaw cops

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
Also that turboconservative Lake Oswego computer repair guy is leaving Oregon http://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2017/03/kevin_the_geek_kerwin_shutters_lake_oswego_computer_repair_shop.html \o/

Dungeon Ecology
Feb 9, 2011


hmmm as it turns out alienating most of your customer base isnt a good idea

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Portland City Council meetings too unsafe to attend, Nick Fish tells staff

quote:

Protesters have repeatedly shut down council meetings since Wheeler took office in January, demanding the mayor release information about a black teen killed by police and try harder to prevent homeless people from dying. They've worn targets on their chests, called the mayor fascist, mocked commissioners' "aye" votes with demonic renderings and laughed when the mayor tried to quiet them. At one meeting, protesters called Eudaly a profane name, which several of her staffers said visibly upset her.

I for one am committed to ensuring that the people who run local government feel protected from public feedback.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

xrunner posted:

Portland City Council meetings too unsafe to attend, Nick Fish tells staff


I for one am committed to ensuring that the people who run local government feel protected from public feedback.

What shitbirds. Maybe you should attempt to be responsive to the public's concerns if you do not like to be called names or to recieve negative feedback. Classic dysfunctional Oregon politics.

Itachi
Mar 31, 2001

LORD GLOOM, YOU HAVE A SUITOR
Seattle folks, there's an action planned on the 31st to respond to the shooting on J20 and the proliferation of neo-nazi bullshit on campus and nearby.

Greater Seattle GDC Local 24 posted:

The Greater Seattle General Defense Committee calls upon the UW campus and community beyond to join us at Red Square on Friday, March 31st at 12PM in declaring that we will not be intimidated by the violence of the far-right! This includes the near-fatal shooting of one of our members at University of Washington on January 20th as well as the others who are currently facing attacks and harassment.

Through their inaction before and after the shooting on January 20th, the police and campus administration at UW have proven themselves unwilling and incapable of actually creating a safe and secure environment on campus. We hope to use this as an opportunity to show that despite this violence, we will continue to organize in our communities and build power to develop a united front against the rise of fascism. This includes organizing to develop alternatives to law enforcement, the criminal legal system, and the administrations which place a far higher value on profit than they do safety. These institutions can not and will not protect us; we must organize to protect ourselves and each other!

This action will begin at 12PM and will involve a brief walk between several locations around campus. Please share this event throughout your networks!

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.

Itachi posted:

Seattle folks, there's an action planned on the 31st to respond to the shooting on J20 and the proliferation of neo-nazi bullshit on campus and nearby.

Awesome, thanks for the heads-up.

DevNull
Apr 4, 2007

And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky
A human being that was given to fly

I am surprised no one has posted the Seattle Socialism Conference yet.
https://www.facebook.com/events/436042853402808/

All the fliers have Bhaskar Sunkara's name in big letters because name recognition, but I am more excited to see Nikkita Oliver and Jesse Hagopian on the list of speakers.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

So the officer who shot Quanice Hayes did not see a firearm, nor did he see Hayes reach for a firearm. http://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-police-shooting-grand-jury-transcripts-quanice-hayes/

quote:

In the transcript, Officer Andrew Hearst said he did not see a gun before he fired three times on 17-year-old Quanice Hayes.

Though he didn’t see a weapon, Hearst said he believed Hayes was armed because of several witness reports.

“I can’t wait, because if I let him get his hand on his gun, he will be able to pull that gun out and shoot me or my coworkers before I’m able to react to it,” Hearst said.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
Dont cops wear kevlar? And dont they have mace and tasers and better physical training to react more quickly to defuse a situation, perhaps tackle a would-be assailant?

If you ask me, cops are pussies scared of anyone looking at them funny. You should have to be brave to wear that uniform. Anyone shooting someone before being fired upon should be fired for cowardice.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

got any sevens posted:

Dont cops wear kevlar? And dont they have mace and tasers and better physical training to react more quickly to defuse a situation, perhaps tackle a would-be assailant?

If you ask me, cops are pussies scared of anyone looking at them funny. You should have to be brave to wear that uniform.
Unfortunately there's a ton of legal precedent supporting every cop's ability to shoot first and ask questions later.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

anthonypants posted:

Unfortunately there's a ton of legal precedent supporting every cop's ability to shoot first and ask questions later.

Not to mention the fact that even when you try to hold them accountable juries will just hang themselves letting the cop walk.

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.

xrunner posted:

Not to mention the fact that even when you try to hold them accountable juries will just hang themselves letting the cop walk.

This is in part because jurors are rejected if they've ever had a negative interaction with a cop.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

George posted:

This is in part because jurors are rejected if they've ever had a negative interaction with a cop.

There's enough of the population that has absolute unquestioned cop worship that they're always going to get at least one guy on the jury who does what the juror in the Slager trial in South Carolina did where he comes in with his mind made and refuses to convict.

anthonypants posted:

Unfortunately there's a ton of legal precedent supporting every cop's ability to shoot first and ask questions later.

Apparently, it's how they're trained. http://mcda.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Quanice-Hayes-Death-Investigation-Transcript.pdf

quote:

You didn't, to be clear, you didn't see, as I understand your testimony, you did not actually see a gun in his hand at the time that you pulled the trigger in your rifle; is that correct?
A That's correct. I did not see.
Q And why not wait until you see a gun pointed at you or see a gun?
A I can't wait, because if I let him get his hand on his gun, he will be able to pull that gun out and shoot me or my coworkers before I'm able to react to it. I just -- I can't perceive what he's doing, have that go through my thinking process and then make a decision faster than he's able to shoot me.
Q And how do you know that?
A All through the training from basic to advanced and then seeing it on the street. There's this action-reaction reality.
Q You've seen that in scenario training?
A I've seen it in scenario training, yeah, and I've seen it on calls on the street. That if a person has independently decided to take an action, it takes more time for a person to perceive that action and then make an independent decision and appropriate reaction to it. So it's an action-reaction, and we do drills with it. And it's very clear that if a person gets a gun in their hand, an officer will not be able to respond faster than that person making the decision to shoot you. They will win every time.

You heard it hear first, folks! For some reason, the people that we hire and train to respond to these types of situations will always lose a shootout. Even if they have their gun drawn and aimed and their opponent doesn't. Cops just aren't fast enough to hang with today's turbo-criminals.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
:ssh: https://twitter.com/dirquez/status/846882272087236608

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
I'm sympathetic to the idea that a measure of order and decorum is required for the business of government to be done, but the flatly weird way that Wheeler has gone about trying to address the issue makes him look real bad.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

got any sevens posted:

Dont cops wear kevlar? And dont they have mace and tasers and better physical training to react more quickly to defuse a situation, perhaps tackle a would-be assailant?

If you ask me, cops are pussies scared of anyone looking at them funny. You should have to be brave to wear that uniform. Anyone shooting someone before being fired upon should be fired for cowardice.

I used to be a security guard. I've talked my way through situations where police have killed for less and I am an anxiety-prone nerd.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Accretionist posted:

I used to be a security guard. I've talked my way through situations where police have killed for less and I am an anxiety-prone nerd.

For sure. I assume you also read about the homeless guy they shot the same day as Hayes? By all accounts the guy was in crisis and needed to be slowly talked down. They shot him instead. At least he survived to tell his story, I guess.

Guy I work with was really taking the cop's side yesterday. He kept making a big deal about how Hayes had held someone at gunpoint during an earlier robbery. No matter how many times I explained it, he didn't seem to get that using a gun to rob a soft target is a very situation than actually pulling a gun and opening fire on a target that already has a rifle pointed at you. "Robbed someone at gunpoint = willing to shoot a police officer" doesn't work logically, no matter how hard you beat that drum.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
"Robbed someone at gunpoint" also doesn't necessarily mean the gun was loaded, or that it was a real gun, or even that they had a gun. I'd also be willing to bet that the minimum punishment for this crime isn't death by firing squad.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
Also, Cameron Whitten went to Salem for the pro-Trump march and was shocked that the people there treated him with hostility, and then that the police said he was causing problems http://www.theskanner.com/news/northwest/25197-black-man-assaulted-at-trump-march-in-salem-ignored-by-police

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Accretionist posted:

I used to be a security guard. I've talked my way through situations where police have killed for less and I am an anxiety-prone nerd.

Same. It's insane how easy it is to de-escalate a situation when you don't have a weapon as a crutch to fall back on.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
lol https://twitter.com/dirquez/status/847195323285909505
e: https://twitter.com/dirquez/status/847209115969396740
Also there's a protest downtown regarding the city's treatment of Quanice Hayes' murder

anthonypants fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Mar 29, 2017

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
Get Into Jail Free cards, nice

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/03/wednesday_council_protest.html

quote:

Portland's City Council conducted business more smoothly Wednesday than it has all year after Mayor Ted Wheeler arranged for nearly everyone to be barred from the building and had security officers stationed near the dais to help eject anyone who might act unruly.

This job sure is a lot easier when we have gatekeepers!!

quote:

That caused the City Council to delay its meeting by an hour.

"I was advised by the police that there was an assault and potentially weapons so we locked down," Wheeler said.

The same trigger-happy liars that are the reason Don't Shoot PDX was outside in the first loving place?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

SyHopeful posted:

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/03/wednesday_council_protest.html

This job sure is a lot easier when we have gatekeepers!!

The same trigger-happy liars that are the reason Don't Shoot PDX was outside in the first loving place?

Olive is such trash. The tone of that article is about what I expect from them.

They also published a list of all the scary crimes recently detained immigrants have committed! http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2017/03/23_arrested_in_portland_area_i.html

My favorites: "Marijuana possession," "Illegal entry," and "Traffic offense other." The same article

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

xrunner posted:

Olive is such trash. The tone of that article is about what I expect from them.

They also published a list of all the scary crimes recently detained immigrants have committed! http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2017/03/23_arrested_in_portland_area_i.html

My favorites: "Marijuana possession," "Illegal entry," and "Traffic offense other." The same article

Yeah, I thought Lukens' departure would herald some kind of improvement but welp, the condescending smugness runs deep at the O.

SeXTcube
Jan 1, 2009

What are some good resources for learning more about urban housing policy and planning? I don't know much besides what I've read in the various PNW threads here. It's interesting though and I want to learn more.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
I like what I've read on Urban Kchoze: http://urbankchoze.blogspot.de/?m=1

And Strong Towns, which, as the name implies, tends to focus on non-big-cities: https://www.strongtowns.org

For a more mainstream resource you could read CityLab, it's basically a spin-off of the Atlantic: http://www.citylab.com

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
I'm surprised no one has posted about Tim Eyman getting his rear end sued by Bob Ferguson for misappropriating campaign donations for his own personal use!

I hope that rear end in a top hat goes down hard.

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anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
Can't tell whether this is a Portland Police April Fools Day prank or an Oregonian one but it's pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge-njP9AgLA
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/video_cop_who_yelled_im_going.html

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