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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
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Don't Lol me posted:Behold the power of the press. I don't buy the principled bit. The honorable thing after brexit won would have been to step down. Letting David Cameron, a man who hosed a dead pig's head, steal a march on him in the 'principles' department was a sure sign of what was to come, and is why you see the polls saying what they say. E: 140 is the maximum number of exclamation points you can put in one twitter. hakimashou fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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hakimashou posted:I don't buy the principled bit. The honorable thing after brexit won would have been to step down. I don't think choosing to stay on after the side he was notionally on lost the referendum demonstrates a lack of principles. It wasn't his idea to have one nor was his political career staked on it. Campaigning ineffectually for a cause you clearly don't believe in, to its detriment? That's extremely unprincipled.
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Mar 28, 2017 12:28
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What I don't get is the Lithuanian flag on that banner, what country was he extrajudicially murdering terrorists for in the first place?
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Mar 28, 2017 12:32
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not sure if sarcasm, but they're the colours of the royal marines
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Mar 28, 2017 12:34
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Well, poo poo, the marines are breaking the Geneva conventions by default, then. Fighting under another country's flag is perfidy, lock the fuckers up.
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Mar 28, 2017 12:36
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Is anybody here planning to host or attend an Article 50 Party?
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Mar 28, 2017 12:36
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are you inviting me pissflaps?
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Mar 28, 2017 12:37
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I think the hinges about corbyn is that it's hard to disaggregate his poor performance as leader from his politics so a lot of lefty ppl think attacks on corbyn are always also attacks on left politics. They usually are but still, I'd love to see a charismatic lefty like keir starmer put his ideas into practice.
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Mar 28, 2017 12:37
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Pissflaps posted:Is anybody here planning to host or attend an Article 50 Party? Article50 is the password for most of my accounts but sadly my enthusiasm for taking back control is not shared by many public sector colleagues even though it will swell our numbers xonsiderably
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Mar 28, 2017 12:40
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Miftan posted:Mental issues in soldiers is a very real and very serious issue. I'm not saying this guy has it, and I'm not sure if he saw professional if he was using that defence in court, but suggesting that mental issues, including battle stress, are made up to help soldiers get away with war crimes is a very slimy thing to do.
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Mar 28, 2017 12:43
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Pissflaps posted:Is anybody here planning to host or attend an Article 50 Party?
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Mar 28, 2017 12:45
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Mar 28, 2017 12:47
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haakman posted:http://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/fergus-wilson-bans-coloureds-123028/ that kind of discrimination is sadly still common in the letting industry. but most people are smart enough to not put it in writing.
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Mar 28, 2017 12:49
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jBrereton posted:Listen squire I am fully aware that PTSD and so on is a Big Deal that not enough is done about. Then maybe don't write things like 'mental illness in soldiers is mostly an excuse to let them off the hook for murdering browns'
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Mar 28, 2017 12:54
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Cerv posted:that kind of discrimination is sadly still common in the letting industry. but most people are smart enough to not put it in writing. ages ago i remember hearing a really inefficient radio ad about this - saddam hussein rang up a letting agents trying to find a property but was denied. sort of feel like the agents weren't at fault for not giving saddam hussein a house
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Mar 28, 2017 12:59
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For further evidence see Brown & Gay (1985) or any of the copycat studies published since. It's a God send to happen today because I'm teaching a lesson on ethnic inequality and now I can fob off covering the Bellend Curve.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:00
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Miftan posted:Then maybe don't write things like 'mental illness in soldiers is mostly an excuse to let them off the hook for murdering browns' Yeah. Basically all the excuses offered by his soldiers on panorama (too far to take the wounded man back, he had grenades, we were egging Al on, you should be able to kill the enemy as and when) can be safely dismissed. As his superior Tom (?) said it's a sad situation but Al broke the law. I'd say manslaughter is probably a fair outcome and who knows? Maybe this high profile case will lead to greater understanding of poor mental health in men.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:00
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Those wacky coloureds, always eating curry and nothing but. Namibian curries, South Carolingian curries, third generation mixed Black British curries. Completely unsurprising that the oval office looks like a second rate Bernard Manning tribute act.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:02
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When I write the op foe the april thread on Friday I'm going to request no gendered slurs or attacks on people's looks. So make the most of the next few days!
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Mar 28, 2017 13:04
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I eat curries on the reg and now my skin has transformed from ghostly pale to the colour of subcontinental mud. Now I can't get a house and have been forced to sleep underneath the bins at the local co-op. Don't let it happen to your kids!
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Mar 28, 2017 13:04
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MikeCrotch posted:Marine A has suffered enough you guys!!! He's the real victim!!! What I meant was that Leave/Remain as an identity is (for the time being) a stronger factor than class/gender/race at the moment. Putting the more abstract discussion about stress/mental health aside for a moment I just don't understand how anyone who has read the Marine A transcripts could conclude that he wasn't in control of his actions and well aware of what he was doing.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:06
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Cerv posted:that kind of discrimination is sadly still common in the letting industry. but most people are smart enough to not put it in writing. It's Fergus Wilson. He's literally a landlord troll. A trolllord. He claimed a few months ago he was selling up - https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/dec/09/buy-to-let-landlord-days-numbered-fergus-wilson-tax-changes-mortgage-rules but I guess not, after all?
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Mar 28, 2017 13:09
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Putting the more abstract discussion about stress/mental health aside for a moment I just don't understand how anyone who has read the Marine A transcripts could conclude that he wasn't in control of his actions and well aware of what he was doing. Why do you love the Taliban more than ARE BRAVE BOYS eh
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Mar 28, 2017 13:08
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Breath Ray posted:Yeah. Basically all the excuses offered by his soldiers on panorama (too far to take the wounded man back, he had grenades, we were egging Al on, you should be able to kill the enemy as and when) can be safely dismissed. As his superior Tom (?) said it's a sad situation but Al broke the law. I'd say manslaughter is probably a fair outcome and who knows? Maybe this high profile case will lead to greater understanding of poor mental health in men. Unless they can prove some sort of mental issues it's still murder, I'm just saying that sweeping statements like jBreton made are unhelpful at best, and really scummy at worst.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:09
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Breath Ray posted:Yeah. Basically all the excuses offered by his soldiers on panorama (too far to take the wounded man back, he had grenades, we were egging Al on, you should be able to kill the enemy as and when) can be safely dismissed. As his superior Tom (?) said it's a sad situation but Al broke the law. I'd say manslaughter is probably a fair outcome and who knows? Maybe this high profile case will lead to greater understanding of poor mental health in men. Reducing to time served is ridiculous though. At the very least the original minimum sentence should have been imposed.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:09
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Breath Ray posted:When I write the op foe the april thread on Friday I'm going to request no gendered slurs or attacks on people's looks. So make the most of the next few days! Didn't you just get chased out of WAYWT for your history of disparaging remarks about women's appearances?
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Mar 28, 2017 13:15
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DesperateDan posted:Weirdly enough I have a strange (and very limited) sympathy for him because I kind of understand the motive. The guy he murdered was probably dead soon anyway. I can imagine if the situation were reversed he might have seen it as mercy, and certainly if I was bleeding out from being shot by an apache I would want it ended quick. It didn't change the fact he aknowledged it was illegal, did it anyway and then tried to cover it up.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:15
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TinTower posted:"So, Mr Goebbels, do you have any response to the accusation that not only were you directly involved in the commission of genocide, you also engaged in human experimentation on prisoners of war?" Goebbels was Propaganda Minister, he neither ordered genocide (he wasn't at the Wannsee Conference, though he got the minutes afterwards), nor did he take part in human experimentation; regardless, you'd have had a hard time asking him that question at trial since he committed suicide alongside Hitler  (Not that he wasn't totally down with the whole idea, but I'm not sure that could be considered a war crime in and of itself unfortunately)
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Mar 28, 2017 13:16
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Seaside Loafer posted:I actually somewhat sympathize as well which is unusual for me being a pacifist. By definition being a soldier with a gun fighting people must put you in a murdering frame of mind, kindof a requirement for the job isnt it.. And yes ive seen the execution and his words. While it's cathartic to hum and haw over individual culpability and as much as I dislike what the bloke has come to symbolise in the national psyche, I reckon the system that created him is more at fault than anything. Still, what's really playing on my mind is... are marines troops?
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Mar 28, 2017 13:19
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MikeCrotch posted:Why do you love the Taliban more than ARE BRAVE BOYS eh Just a filthy lefty I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Mar 28, 2017 13:21
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TomViolence posted:While it's cathartic to hum and haw over individual culpability and as much as I dislike what the bloke has come to symbolise in the national psyche, I reckon the system that created him is more at fault than anything. Still, what's really playing on my mind is...
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Mar 28, 2017 13:26
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Brokenshire has said that if no executive is in place in Northern Ireland by the end of the April recess he will move to introduce legislation into the house of commons to set a regional rate for the year - most likely meaning an end to the 6 year rate freeze the DUP and SF both implemented
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Mar 28, 2017 13:28
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TinTower posted:Reducing to time served is ridiculous though. At the very least the original minimum sentence should have been imposed. Unless I'm misunderstanding you custodial sentences take time already served into account as standard.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:29
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Party Boat posted:Unless I'm misunderstanding you custodial sentences take time already served into account as standard. His sentence was seven years, so he's eligible for release on licence after three and a half, which he has already served. Basically I'm saying that giving him a standard sentence for manslaughter is ridiculous when the nature of the crime (being an admitted violation of IHL) should have been a major aggravating factor.
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Mar 28, 2017 13:36
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Yes, but have you considered are brayve boyz.
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Mar 28, 2017 14:31
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Praseodymi posted:Didn't you just get chased out of WAYWT for your history of disparaging remarks about women's appearances? Hardly chased out! I respectfully asked a woman contributor if she would like to hear my perspective on her outfit as a Cis man and she declined which im ok with. https://youtu.be/eUnupeFBpHM
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Mar 28, 2017 14:33
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Yerroner I know I cut off all her limbs and ate them but in my defence I was very angry at the time I did the killing so I claim diminished responsibility?
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Mar 28, 2017 14:56
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Breath Ray posted:Seems he has a mental illness and claimed diminished responsibility? look he just likes posting about how bad corbyn is
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Mar 28, 2017 16:08
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lol investing https://twitter.com/tbiesheuvel/sta...%3D3229%23pti18
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