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So apparently the Terok Nor DS9 was destroyed in the novels? And there's a new Federation-built station in its place. drat, it's hideous.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 13:58 |
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ElBrak posted:Bet they had the name kicking around unused cause the old Deep Space 9 is now in Federation space after some race joined up. That's what I always assumed. Once the station was within the border it gets renamed and "Deep Space (whatever)" goes back on the list of potential names. I'm sure if Bajor had joined the Federation DS9 would have been renamed Opaka Station or something. The_Doctor posted:So apparently the Terok Nor DS9 was destroyed in the novels? And there's a new Federation-built station in its place. drat, it's hideous. Yeah, that's ugly as poo poo.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 14:02 |
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8one6 posted:That's what I always assumed. Once the station was within the border it gets renamed and "Deep Space (whatever)" goes back on the list of potential names. Kai Winn Memorial Station Stationy McStationface Morn McMorn's Memorial Station and Snack Bar (a Dave and Buster's Franchise) Quark's
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 14:35 |
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Railing Kill posted:Kai Winn Memorial Station Susan
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 15:02 |
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The Bloop posted:Susan Now, you're just doing it on purpose.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 15:37 |
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Rikers not allowed on Deep Space 69. Voyager arrives at a planet that is known for it's beautiful scenery, leisure centric culture, beautiful and uninhibited population. Janeway orders her senior staff to have first go at this, while Tom and Harry are down there before she finishes speaking, Tuvok and Torres resist, but eventually are forced down. The two encounter a group of Natives that wish to end the planets hedonistic culture. The two officers join with the Natives and sabotage the planets weather control system to teach the others a lesson. Tuvok and Torres realized that the Native's plans would actually lead to the planets destruction, and repairs the weather control. Tom gets laid too much, Harry cannot get laid at all.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 17:54 |
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The_Doctor posted:So apparently the Terok Nor DS9 was destroyed in the novels? And there's a new Federation-built station in its place. drat, it's hideous. This is the worst loving thing. It's a federation station trying to sort of ape the previous cardassian designed station resulting in something awful. It's like when a local heritage board gets involved with the design of a new modern building and demands certain random architectural elements to "respect the nearby heritage buildings" and it ends up looks like a cruel mockery.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 18:11 |
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Baronjutter posted:This is the worst loving thing. It's a federation station trying to sort of ape the previous cardassian designed station resulting in something awful. It's like when a local heritage board gets involved with the design of a new modern building and demands certain random architectural elements to "respect the nearby heritage buildings" and it ends up looks like a cruel mockery. From that perspective it's kinda genius, because that is exactly how those UFP dweebs would do it
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 18:17 |
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The_Doctor posted:So apparently the Terok Nor DS9 was destroyed in the novels? And there's a new Federation-built station in its place. drat, it's hideous. It's like an ultra-lovely version of Benny's DS9.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 18:29 |
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Why did you make the Summer Fun Bajor Culture Retreat look like the old Cardassian Occupation Labor Camps?
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 18:33 |
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vermin posted:Why did you make the Summer Fun Bajor Culture Retreat look like the old Cardassian Occupation Labor Camps? NEVER FORGET
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 18:38 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It's like an ultra-lovely version of Benny's DS9.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 18:43 |
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Lord Hydronium posted:Huh, I never noticed that his DS9 is an Air Force station. Makes sense given the era.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 19:11 |
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I know it's based a little on some of the original DS9 concept art when they were thinking about more rings.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 19:36 |
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The_Doctor posted:I know it's based a little on some of the original DS9 concept art when they were thinking about more rings. Not horrible except that the station looks like a pirate ship steering wheel.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 19:40 |
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Q_res posted:It's worth remembering that CBS/Paramount left an out, where you can bypass the restrictions if you get direct approval. How hard that is, who knows, but it's at least theoretically an option. I'm assuming they left it in so they could not be dicks to the groups who had been playing nice before the crack down. Right, the exact wording is that they "reserve the right to selective enforcement," meaning "don't be a dick like the Axafucks and we'll probably look the other way." And then Peters had the balls to actually call out other fanfilm producers, saying that if the community hadn't turned against each other, then the guidelines might have been better. Uh, Alec, you're the one who tried to get other productions shut down.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 19:41 |
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Seeing ring designs like that in scify always bugs me. Big ring stations are to generate gravity through spin, that's where the design got into popular culture from old ideas for making actual wheel shaped space stations. Turning it on its side and making it just another "building in space" with artificial gravity doesn't make sense. I like those concept designs because all the ships seem parked inside the rings, almost like it creates a shield bubble or something and the ring shapes are there to support the creation of the shield.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 19:57 |
If the Federales wanted to be historically scenic they would've just built a Starbase but reproduced the promenade, maybe. It had a Bajoran temple in it so it wouldn't be completely "ha ha, enjoy your fascism memories." It'd be "Enjoy your fascism memories of your religious faith under occupation... and Quark's!"
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twistedmentat posted:Rikers not allowed on Deep Space 69. Deep Space 69 is the #2 most requested posting by graduating academy cadets (#1 being the Enterprise). It's also the #1 most requested "please transfer me somewhere else" posting. Deep Space 69 is where the Federation tests the rate of evaporation and overall separation of carrier solvents from their pigment formulas. They also examine the growth rates of monocotyledonous flowering plants used for both erosion control and ornamental turf.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 20:34 |
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Baronjutter posted:This is the worst loving thing. It's a federation station trying to sort of ape the previous cardassian designed station resulting in something awful. It's like when a local heritage board gets involved with the design of a new modern building and demands certain random architectural elements to "respect the nearby heritage buildings" and it ends up looks like a cruel mockery. It's a hipster version of DS9. Part of why I love that series is the unique non Federation look of the station.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 21:39 |
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The_Doctor posted:I know it's based a little on some of the original DS9 concept art when they were thinking about more rings. Space stations of the Old West.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 23:29 |
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Mister Kingdom posted:Space stations of the Old West. Real frontier medicine.
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 23:36 |
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Baronjutter posted:Seeing ring designs like that in scify always bugs me. Big ring stations are to generate gravity through spin, With our technology yes. But a radial arrangement of docked ships on a central hub is pretty efficient. You can move cargo from ship to ship easily (don't say transporters. Those ore tubes that Jake was crawling in and all the guys with space pallet jacks said different) and you have a central location for storage.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 00:00 |
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"Don't say transporters" is like the first thing you need to do when talking about any kind of Star Trek technology.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 00:39 |
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Sash! posted:With our technology yes. The docking pylons, on the other hand...
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 02:38 |
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Saw this today while parked at a red light.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 03:22 |
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Kibayasu posted:"Don't say transporters" is like the first thing you need to do when talking about any kind of Star Trek technology. Quadralithium ore and biomemetic gel can't be transported, sooo... Come to think of it, can latinum be transported? You'd think not, but then of course Voyager transported omega particles ugh
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 03:25 |
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The Bloop posted:Come to think of it, can latinum be transported? You'd think not, but then of course Voyager transported omega particles ugh I assume it has some kind of quantrametric zooblebobble signature that says Legit/Quit when you scan it.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 04:01 |
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The Bloop posted:Quadralithium ore and biomemetic gel can't be transported, sooo... I think that was things that can't be replicated, though I guess it is kind of a form of transportation. Replication is the second thing you don't talk about when talking about Star Trek tech though.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 04:06 |
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Gonz posted:Saw this today while parked at a red light. There's someone out here (MD) with the same plate. I think I had a picture on my old phone, not sure if I ever dumped it to PC. If I can find it, I'll share.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 04:06 |
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I can't find the picture but I was once behind a guy in CA whose plate was NCC1017 (The USS Constellation... for some reason)
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 04:37 |
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The Bloop posted:Quadralithium ore and biomemetic gel can't be transported, sooo... DS9 once beamed a small universe, which I think wins.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 04:48 |
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Spoeank posted:I can't find the picture but I was once behind a guy in CA whose plate was NCC1017 (The USS Constellation... for some reason) It better have a crunched fender, at least. And I hope he rigged up a bunch of red and yellow lights inside his garage and says things like "Gentlemen, I suggest you beam me aboard" every time he pulls in the driveway.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 04:59 |
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8one6 posted:That's what I always assumed. Once the station was within the border it gets renamed and "Deep Space (whatever)" goes back on the list of potential names. This would be a ridiculous and stupid approach because the old station name would still exist on lots of records and documents and be used in common speech and would cause lots of pointless confusion. Which... sounds like what the navy would do to me. Spoeank posted:I can't find the picture but I was once behind a guy in CA whose plate was NCC1017 (The USS Constellation... for some reason) Maybe he made a typo.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 05:56 |
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I've been on a business trip without access to the TOS DC comic books but when I get back this weekend, I'll post some choice comic panels for your viewing pleasure.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 05:55 |
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Duckbag posted:This would be a ridiculous and stupid approach because the old station name would still exist on lots of records and documents and be used in common speech and would cause lots of pointless confusion. Which... sounds like what the navy would do to me. 1701 was probably taken aaaaages ago.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 05:56 |
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The_Doctor posted:So apparently the Terok Nor DS9 was destroyed in the novels? And there's a new Federation-built station in its place. drat, it's hideous. I think it would look a lot better without the useless vertical rings, with just that horizontal ring it would look more like an evolution of the mushroom-type starbase. Still not great, but better.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 06:35 |
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You know, has decoupling the dilithium matrix ever worked? Or done, anything at all? I feel like that's required technobabble for a warp core malfunction but it's never actually meaningful.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 07:52 |
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The_Doctor posted:So apparently the Terok Nor DS9 was destroyed in the novels? And there's a new Federation-built station in its place. drat, it's hideous. What gets me about the vertical rings is that they are obviously there for visual continuity with Terok Nor, but they're not docking pylons. They have no obvious purpose. Why are they there? Knormal posted:I think it would look a lot better without the useless vertical rings, with just that horizontal ring it would look more like an evolution of the mushroom-type starbase. Still not great, but better. Totally agree. That would be a good start.
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# ? Mar 30, 2017 08:48 |
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Knormal posted:This ended up being the perfect example of why you need producers, directors, etc. to reign in the creatives. That this was designed by Doug Drexler and Andrew Probert, who together are responsible for tons of the most iconic Trek designs. Granted they were kind of boxed-in by the descriptions of the new station from the novel it premeired in, but still that design needed some people sending them back to tweaking. Obviously none of the novel people are going to tell Drexler or Probert to try again, given their pedigree. I suspect the description was what hosed them, though. Even if those broad features were laid out it'd be pretty restrictive.
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