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Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Is Aliza the only person not thirsty for Link?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 16:39

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# ? May 28, 2024 20:42

ROCK THE HOUSE M.D.: Oct 9, 2003; I've got a case of malt liquor stashed in the trunk, Mr. Marvin Gaye on the CD. We are gonna get all the way down.

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# ? Apr 15, 2017 16:45

Jack-Off Lantern: Mar 2, 2012

Cojawfee posted:

Is Aliza the only person not thirsty for Link?

Riju is also not thirsty for Link, cause she's like 12.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 16:48

Novum: May 26, 2012; That's how we roll

I thought only the fish lady and the shiekah girl gave a poo poo at all

# ? Apr 15, 2017 18:01

Beve Stuscemi: Jun 6, 2001

Cojawfee posted:

Is Aliza the only person not thirsty for Link?

Robbie. Robbie just wants to gently caress dat oven

# ? Apr 15, 2017 19:42

Rand Brittain: Mar 25, 2013; "Go on until you're stopped."

Cojawfee posted:

Is Aliza the only person not thirsty for Link?

Pretty much all the Gerudo wandering around looking for husband consider him for a second before saying "Nah".

# ? Apr 15, 2017 19:49

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Just did it. Akkala to Hawa Koth: ~23 minutes but that's with hoofing it to Garudo Town sans sand seal.

What horse did you use for it? You can probably cut a good amount of time by using a Lord of the Mountain for this but getting one then riding to Akkala before you begin may be annoying.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 19:51

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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Just did it. Akkala to Hawa Koth: ~23 minutes but that's with hoofing it to Garudo Town sans sand seal.

Thank you! I appreciate your contribution to science!

# ? Apr 15, 2017 20:44

CJ: Jul 3, 2007; Asbungold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15-xfUr8z4

# ? Apr 15, 2017 20:47

Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

What horse did you use for it? You can probably cut a good amount of time by using a Lord of the Mountain for this but getting one then riding to Akkala before you begin may be annoying.

I used the amiibo Epona. I spurred her every time the fourth spur regenerated.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 20:50

Calaveron: Aug 7, 2006

CJ posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15-xfUr8z4

Who cares

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:28

Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

CJ posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15-xfUr8z4

who is this person and why should i care about their edgemaster video?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:29

Norns: Nov 21, 2011; Senior Shitposting Strategist

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

who is this person and why should i care about their edgemaster video?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:31

Norns: Nov 21, 2011; Senior Shitposting Strategist

Guys a random dude on youtube doesn't think Zelda is good enough!

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:31

Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Norns posted:

Guys a random dude on youtube doesn't think Zelda is good enough!

and made a 2 hour ( :chanpop:

) video about it

not that there aren't things to critique about botw but the whole thing reeks of clickbait...

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:32

WIFEY WATCHDOG: Jun 25, 2012; Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.

Botw good, so what

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:44

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

BOTW has Sidon which makes the game GOAT

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:46

Bum the Sad: Aug 25, 2002; Hell Gem

Dr. Tim Whatley posted:

Botw good, so what

It's even better with my pirated amiibos.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:46

WIFEY WATCHDOG: Jun 25, 2012; Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.

Bum the Sad posted:

It's even better with my pirated amiibos.

Wai... gently caress!!!! NO!

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:49

Unmature: May 9, 2008

CJ posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15-xfUr8z4

Complains about reviewers not playing enough Zelda while whining abut Zelda after barely playing it.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 21:52

Ventana: Mar 28, 2010; *Yosh intensifies*

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

and made a 2 hour () video about it

not that there aren't things to critique about botw but the whole thing reeks of clickbait...

When I think clickbait, I think 2 hour long video critiques

Unmature posted:

Complains about reviewers not playing enough Zelda while whining abut Zelda after barely playing it.

He's apparently spent ~150 hours on it. How long is "barely playing it" nowadays?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:06

CJ: Jul 3, 2007; Asbungold

Guy spends a month playing game, says it's one of the best game he's ever played, gives detailed criticism of parts he didn't like, mainly the shrines and combat system, backed up by examples, data and suggections it could be improved. FUCKTHIS EDGELORD VLICKBAITER>

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:12

Norns: Nov 21, 2011; Senior Shitposting Strategist

Again who is he and why do I care about his opinion?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:14

CJ: Jul 3, 2007; Asbungold

Norns posted:

Again who is he and why do I care about his opinion?

A guy on the internet. Why do you care about anyone's opinion? Why are you posting on an internet message board?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:21

Norns: Nov 21, 2011; Senior Shitposting Strategist

CJ posted:

A guy on the internet. Why do you care about anyone's opinion? Why are you posting on an internet message board?

Becuse your posts aren't 2 hours long

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:22

WIFEY WATCHDOG: Jun 25, 2012; Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.

I care

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:26

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Who even is this guy and why should I sit through his two hour video?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:29

Ventana: Mar 28, 2010; *Yosh intensifies*

Complaining that the video is 2 hours long on a game that maybe probably doesn't have THAT many problems is maybe okay. Or maybe actually, idk, just actually disagreeing with his points would be fine too.

Still really dumb to start complaining about innocuous things. Anyone can have a opinion and is free to express it. If you don't want to or care to listen, then just move on.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:29

GobiasIndustries: Dec 14, 2007; Lipstick Apathy

The Lobster posted:

Who even is this guy and why should I sit through his two hour video?

Spend 2 hours playing BOTW instead

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:32

grilldos: Mar 27, 2004; BUST A LOAF
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His complaints counter themselves so the whole thing cancels out into white noise.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:38

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GobiasIndustries posted:

Spend 2 hours playing BOTW instead

Done and done.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:47

Ursine Catastrophe: Nov 9, 2009; It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.

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CJ posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15-xfUr8z4

How do you turn "I liked the exploration but missed the long dungeons and better plots of previous zelda games" into a 2 hour long video

someone hire this man an editor

e: according to wikipedia, 23,710 words make it a "Novella"

Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Apr 15, 2017

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:50

Viewtiful Jew: Apr 21, 2007; Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

grilldos posted:

His complaints counter themselves so the whole thing cancels out into white noise.

He says himself he was surprised that he never actually came to a solid consensus on the game, which I guess makes sense seeing as how it's still only been around a month or so since the game hit shelves. We usually don't see these these types of detailed analysis critiques until like, a year or so after a game has been out unless it's a real poo poo show ordeal like No Man's Sky where the entire internet feasts on the carcass of a maligned game.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 22:51

CJ: Jul 3, 2007; Asbungold

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

How do you turn "I liked the exploration but missed the long dungeons and better plots of previous zelda games" into a 2 hour long video

someone hire this man an editor

That's like 10 minutes of the video, most of it is about how the shrines were disappointing and the combat system is broken.

Bullet point summary for people too childish to respond to his actual criticisms:

Shrines:

- Majority of them are ion the 'meh' to 'bad' side rather than good.
- The shrines where you fight a guardian are all filler garbage
- The good shrines introduced a concept and expanded on it, or required the interaction of several mechanics.
- The bad shrines introduced an mechanic with a tutorial and that was it, or were insultingly easy like glide across a gap.

Combat:
- The way damage is calculated is fundamentally flawed by being additive, ie the damage calculation being enemy damage + weapon damage - armour.
- This leads to terribly balanced fights, where you take 0 damage if your armour is too high and get wrecked if it's too low. Also leads to silly situations like a bokoblin doing more damage than Ganon.
- The world scales with you but story segments like the guardians don't.
- As a result of the above stuff, he missed all the guardian boss fights on his first playthrough because he ended up one shotting them with with the master sword.
- There isn't enough enemy variety, the vast majority is bokoblins, lizards and moblins. There are some other enemies but they usually attack you alone. Would have been a lot more interesting if e.g. the assassins attacked you while you were fighting other stuff to make stuff interesting.
- Not being able to dodge when not logged on was terrible.
- The dodge flurry attacks were broken. Seems to be programmed to check for damage around you when you press the dodge button. This means if you anticipate an attack and time the dodge so you actually dodge it you don't get the flurry. In contrast if you move out of the way, wait for the enemy to miss you then press dodge it detects the attack hit box next to you and gives you the flurry even though you didn't actually dodge anything.
- Being able to eat an unlimited amount of food with no risk such as an eating animation trivialises things.
- Lack of weapon variety, they all share a very small pool of movesets.
- Weapon degradation has a nice flow at the beginning as you are constantly switching weapons, but as you progress it leads to problems such as making you feel bad about using cool weapons, discouraging you from switching weapons because it's better to break them one at a time and replacing them rather than having a bunch of near broken weapons.

Seems like he's talking about systemic isssues, but because he goes to the trouble of backing up what he says with examples people say it's nitpicking.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 23:29

Norns: Nov 21, 2011; Senior Shitposting Strategist

Sorry I'm to childish to sit through something longer than a movie about something I've already invested a hundred hours of time into.

# ? Apr 15, 2017 23:31

Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

lol are you the guy?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 23:31

Calaveron: Aug 7, 2006

CJ posted:

That's like 10 minutes of the video, most of it is about how the shrines were disappointing and the combat system is broken.

Bullet point summary for people too childish to respond to his actual criticisms:

Shrines:

- Majority of them are ion the 'meh' to 'bad' side rather than good.
- The shrines where you fight a guardian are all filler garbage
- The good shrines introduced a concept and expanded on it, or required the interaction of several mechanics.
- The bad shrines introduced an mechanic with a tutorial and that was it, or were insultingly easy like glide across a gap.

Combat:
- The way damage is calculated is fundamentally flawed by being additive, ie the damage calculation being enemy damage + weapon damage - armour.
- This leads to terribly balanced fights, where you take 0 damage if your armour is too high and get wrecked if it's too low. Also leads to silly situations like a bokoblin doing more damage than Ganon.
- The world scales with you but story segments like the guardians don't.
- As a result of the above stuff, he missed all the guardian boss fights on his first playthrough because he ended up one shotting them with with the master sword.
- There isn't enough enemy variety, the vast majority is bokoblins, lizards and moblins. There are some other enemies but they usually attack you alone. Would have been a lot more interesting if e.g. the assassins attacked you while you were fighting other stuff to make stuff interesting.
- Not being able to dodge when not logged on was terrible.
- The dodge flurry attacks were broken. Seems to be programmed to check for damage around you when you press the dodge button. This means if you anticipate an attack and time the dodge so you actually dodge it you don't get the flurry. In contrast if you move out of the way, wait for the enemy to miss you then press dodge it detects the attack hit box next to you and gives you the flurry even though you didn't actually dodge anything.
- Being able to eat an unlimited amount of food with no risk such as an eating animation trivialises things.
- Lack of weapon variety, they all share a very small pool of movesets.
- Weapon degradation has a nice flow at the beginning as you are constantly switching weapons, but as you progress it leads to problems such as making you feel bad about using cool weapons, discouraging you from switching weapons because it's better to break them one at a time and replacing them rather than having a bunch of near broken weapons.

Seems like he's talking about systemic isssues, but because he goes to the trouble of backing up what he says with examples people say it's nitpicking.

Nobody watched the two hour video so what makes you think they're going to read this long rear end post
Sorry nobody liked your two hour video that probably took you 20 hours to edit

# ? Apr 15, 2017 23:33

Ursine Catastrophe: Nov 9, 2009; It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.

don't ask how i know; Dinosaur Gum

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

lol are you the guy?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 23:35

Beve Stuscemi: Jun 6, 2001

CJ posted:

That's like 10 minutes of the video, most of it is about how the shrines were disappointing and the combat system is broken.

Bullet point summary for people too childish to respond to his actual criticisms:

Shrines:

- Majority of them are ion the 'meh' to 'bad' side rather than good.
- The shrines where you fight a guardian are all filler garbage
- The good shrines introduced a concept and expanded on it, or required the interaction of several mechanics.
- The bad shrines introduced an mechanic with a tutorial and that was it, or were insultingly easy like glide across a gap.

Combat:
- The way damage is calculated is fundamentally flawed by being additive, ie the damage calculation being enemy damage + weapon damage - armour.
- This leads to terribly balanced fights, where you take 0 damage if your armour is too high and get wrecked if it's too low. Also leads to silly situations like a bokoblin doing more damage than Ganon.
- The world scales with you but story segments like the guardians don't.
- As a result of the above stuff, he missed all the guardian boss fights on his first playthrough because he ended up one shotting them with with the master sword.
- There isn't enough enemy variety, the vast majority is bokoblins, lizards and moblins. There are some other enemies but they usually attack you alone. Would have been a lot more interesting if e.g. the assassins attacked you while you were fighting other stuff to make stuff interesting.
- Not being able to dodge when not logged on was terrible.
- The dodge flurry attacks were broken. Seems to be programmed to check for damage around you when you press the dodge button. This means if you anticipate an attack and time the dodge so you actually dodge it you don't get the flurry. In contrast if you move out of the way, wait for the enemy to miss you then press dodge it detects the attack hit box next to you and gives you the flurry even though you didn't actually dodge anything.
- Being able to eat an unlimited amount of food with no risk such as an eating animation trivialises things.
- Lack of weapon variety, they all share a very small pool of movesets.
- Weapon degradation has a nice flow at the beginning as you are constantly switching weapons, but as you progress it leads to problems such as making you feel bad about using cool weapons, discouraging you from switching weapons because it's better to break them one at a time and replacing them rather than having a bunch of near broken weapons.

Seems like he's talking about systemic isssues, but because he goes to the trouble of backing up what he says with examples people say it's nitpicking.

No one likes your video buddy, sorry

# ? Apr 15, 2017 23:38

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# ? May 28, 2024 20:42

grilldos: Mar 27, 2004; BUST A LOAF
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What if ganon had a gun?

# ? Apr 15, 2017 23:41

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