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Hot Take: I don't mind the original slower version of the Enterprise theme. It's like five hundredth on the list of bad things in Trek.
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The Bloop posted:Hot Take: I don't mind the original slower version of the Enterprise theme. I'll see that and raise you German Techno Faith of the Heart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74iAs6AqOhM
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Apr 18, 2017 16:50
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That chipmunks pitch shift. Holy smokes!
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Apr 18, 2017 16:57
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They should have stuck with the Mirror Universe theme
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Apr 18, 2017 17:12
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I always thought they should've gone all-out insane for the Mirror theme and done a gritty nü-metal cover of the song with altered lyrics. We took the wrong road Getting from here to there We're in the wrong time And my time just can't compare And I will make your nightmares come alive And I will touch T'pol And they're not gonna slow me down no more, No I'm not gonna change at all 'Cause I've got luuuust...
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Apr 18, 2017 17:30
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Sir Lemming posted:
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Apr 18, 2017 17:33
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:If they really thought it was something that could stand on its own it would be on real tv, right after Survivor. They can't place it right into syndication like they did with TNG and DS9 since no on wants it anymore after VOY and ENT pushed away all the non-trekkers. To be honest, DS9 also pushed away the non-trekkers. It was a great series, but never really broke out into mainstream appeal. It's been close to a quarter century since anyone made any Star Trek that got significant appeal beyond the core sci-fi audience. JJ Trek came close I guess, but is not the cultural phenomenon they hoped it would be. Otherwise, I agree with everything you say. Star Trek has often (always?) been treated with a level of disdain, even when it was profitable. The almost complete lack of acknowledgement of the 50th anniversary last year is just one example among many.
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Apr 18, 2017 17:47
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Sir Lemming posted:We took the wrong road Delightful
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Apr 18, 2017 17:49
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Ok, we'll split it. You get Bezos for Trek, but I already claimed Elon Musk for a B5 remaster. I'm holding out for a Musk-produced anthology series where each season is a different Culture novel.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:00
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The song they used as the credits theme was originally developed to be the Enterprise opening theme, and it's fine. No need to go crazy on a re-release or anything, just sub in that music for the opening. Boom. Problem solved.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:15
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FlamingLiberal posted:They didn't give very much time between when this was announced and scheduled to air. Wasn't it announced last spring? Fuller began developing it in the fall of 2015.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:25
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DentArthurDent posted:Otherwise, I agree with everything you say. Star Trek has often (always?) been treated with a level of disdain, even when it was profitable. The almost complete lack of acknowledgement of the 50th anniversary last year is just one example among many. It's very strange to compare that with how, say, the profile Doctor Who enjoys in Britain.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:42
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ashpanash posted:The song they used as the credits theme was originally developed to be the Enterprise opening theme, and it's fine. No need to go crazy on a re-release or anything, just sub in that music for the opening. Boom. Problem solved. Problem doesn't really exist. I am 100% not cool enough to work at the record store, but there's nothing wrong with Faith of the Heart, and the opening visuals are great and great with it. All Trek openings are great unless they speed them up and especially if they add bongos.
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Apr 18, 2017 19:33
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I think the opening credits are fine with Faith of the Heart and would have worked fine if the show stuck to the "The Right Stuff" vibe they seemed to be going for at first. The problem is the show's tone changed drastically several times over, contrasting with the sentimental theme with increasing hilarity.
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Apr 18, 2017 19:40
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Trek is weird without an instrumental theme. The problem with a pop song is that generally those don't age well, and that's certainly the case with Faith of the Heart (which was cheesy as hell to begin with).
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Apr 18, 2017 19:52
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It would've worked if they really fully committed to doing a different type of show. But it pretty quickly became TNG Lite.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:06
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FlamingLiberal posted:Trek is weird without an instrumental theme. The problem with a pop song is that generally those don't age well, and that's certainly the case with Faith of the Heart (which was cheesy as hell to begin with). Originally written by Diane Warren and recorded by adult contemporary era Rod Stewart for the Patch Adams soundtrack. Seems like a perfect fit for a sci-fi TV show.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:07
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vermin posted:I'll see that and raise you German Techno Faith of the Heart Bosh bosh bosh. I still like the 'don't stop me now' version Dans did.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:28
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Honestly, I've always liked the Enterprise intro -- there's something about it that speaks to me about just how much crazy poo poo we can do if we put our minds to it. We landed people on the moon in the dark ages of computers, for heaven's sake. We may not have flying cars yet but we've touched the sky and then some.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:57
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Just started Orange is the New Black and Kate Mulgrew is really good and my favorite inmate.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:00
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vermin posted:Just started Orange is the New Black and Kate Mulgrew is really good and my favorite inmate. She is very good throughout the show, yes.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:50
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Timby posted:Honestly, I've always liked the Enterprise intro -- there's something about it that speaks to me about just how much crazy poo poo we can do if we put our minds to it. We landed people on the moon in the dark ages of computers, for heaven's sake. We may not have flying cars yet but we've touched the sky and then some.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:53
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Timby posted:Honestly, I've always liked the Enterprise intro -- there's something about it that speaks to me about just how much crazy poo poo we can do if we put our minds to it. We landed people on the moon in the dark ages of computers, for heaven's sake. We may not have flying cars yet but we've touched the sky and then some. The intro isn't a problem at all, it's just the theme song. Conceptually the whole thing is really good and exactly what the intro should have been for a show like Enterprise.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:35
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I seem to have lost one of my most treasured GIFs: Sisko yelling at Kira to shut off Eddington's hologram in For The Uniform. Does anyone here happen to have it?
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Apr 19, 2017 00:58
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Mister Kingdom posted:The show will end up being produced by the Axanar guys. Just think, as of right now, this moment, Axanar has more minutes of successfully produced tv than Discovery...
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Apr 19, 2017 01:35
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DentArthurDent posted:To be honest, DS9 also pushed away the non-trekkers. It was a great series, but never really broke out into mainstream appeal. It had higher ratings than every Trek series besides TNG (which was a legit cultural phenomenon), and at one point surpassed Baywatch as the most popular first-run syndicated series in the world. But okay...
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Apr 19, 2017 02:47
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Q_res posted:It had higher ratings than every Trek series besides TNG (which was a legit cultural phenomenon), and at one point surpassed Baywatch as the most popular first-run syndicated series in the world. But okay... Seriously a show pulling DS9 numbers these days would be the number 1 show on TV.
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Apr 19, 2017 03:13
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CBS should just buy out the Star Trek Continues guys because 1) it's the best fan production 2) it's actually pretty good and 3) it would piss off the Axanar rear end in a top hat.
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Apr 19, 2017 05:06
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I know a dude who's first dance at his wedding was to Faith of the Heart. His wife only found out it was from Trek (yes they danced to that version) when I mocked the song on Facebook and he defended it. He unfriended me over that post and they recently divorced and in my mind, it's because of the origin of that song.
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Apr 19, 2017 05:32
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8one6 posted:CBS should just buy out the Star Trek Continues guys because 1) it's the best fan production 2) it's actually pretty good and 3) it would piss off the Axanar rear end in a top hat. I know it's unlikely but part of me hopes that Discovery keeps getting pushed back because they've realized that it's possible to produce a decent Star Trek style show with basically zero dollars and even with all their money and industry talent they're coming up loving short
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Apr 19, 2017 05:47
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vermin posted:Just started Orange is the New Black and Kate Mulgrew is really good and my favorite inmate. Even better, imagine her playing Janeway like she does Red.
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Apr 19, 2017 06:30
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Timby posted:Honestly, I've always liked the Enterprise intro -- there's something about it that speaks to me about just how much crazy poo poo we can do if we put our minds to it. We landed people on the moon in the dark ages of computers, for heaven's sake. We may not have flying cars yet but we've touched the sky and then some. Agree. It just feels like an intro for a different series. And it also kind of loses me after we see the First Contact stock footage, because that's the last point where space travel seemed like any sort of pioneering effort. After that, we're just warping around and it's like we've done it all. Kind of a reminder that space exploration in Enterprise is exactly as easy as it is in TOS and TNG, and suddenly we don't feel like pioneers anymore, because the struggle to reach the stars is over.
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Apr 19, 2017 09:40
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Rhyno posted:I know a dude who's first dance at his wedding was to Faith of the Heart. Why would you mock another man for his wedding choices? Is your life so devoid of happiness you have to take it from others?
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Apr 19, 2017 11:56
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If he liked Trek enough to put it in his wedding and his wife didn't know because she's never seen it even though it's that important to him, well, that was a pretty bad omen to start with. Edit: not responding to the post above, that's a totally separate issue
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Apr 19, 2017 12:47
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Q_res posted:It had higher ratings than every Trek series besides TNG (which was a legit cultural phenomenon), and at one point surpassed Baywatch as the most popular first-run syndicated series in the world. But okay... My only point was that DS9 never had the same kind of broad and lasting cultural appeal that TNG has (not to mention TOS). Certainly not as many people know who Captain Sisko and Odo are (compared to Captain Picard and Data). When TNG ended it immediately went to the big screen. When DS9 ended there was not even a whisper of a feature movie. The show was popular among fans (rightly so) and, if the ratings were that high, must have been drawing in at least some casual viewers. But DS9 absolutely did not have the same broad cultural impact of previous Treks. DentArthurDent fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Apr 19, 2017 13:10
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How was Voyager for ratings compared with DS9?
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Apr 19, 2017 13:36
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Wheat Loaf posted:How was Voyager for ratings compared with DS9? Consistently lower. 
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Apr 19, 2017 13:39
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I love DS9 but you'd have to be delusional to think it has anywhere near the popularity of TOS or TNG.
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Apr 19, 2017 13:41
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bull3964 posted:Consistently lower. To be fair, this was partially due to DS9 being syndicated and Voyager anchoring UPN.
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MikeJF posted:To be fair, this was partially due to DS9 being syndicated and Voyager anchoring UPN. Eh, partially, but look at Voyager's debut. It was clearly capable of reaching the same depth of market that DS9 was seeing.
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