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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Zak Brown sucks
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Apr 19, 2017 13:50
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Zak Brown sucks IDK man, he is letting Are Nando do other stuff to keep him entertained. I'm a bit torn here.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:16
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GramCracker posted:IDK man, he is letting Are Nando do other stuff to keep him entertained. I'm a bit torn here. He wouldn't have to if he magically fixed all of McLaren's problems already. Jfc.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:24
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The Indy thing is cool but it's a bandaid for an infected open stab wound, it does nothing remotely close to fixing the real issues.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:35
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What is he supposed to be doing??????
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Apr 19, 2017 14:42
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Theophany posted:He wouldn't have to if he magically fixed all of McLaren's problems already. Jfc. I should have higher standards, you're right.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:44
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wicka posted:What is he supposed to be doing?????? Hiring Illien. Like two weeks ago.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:47
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wicka posted:What is he supposed to be doing?????? Kissing asses and contracting sponsors, no?
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Apr 19, 2017 14:47
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How can anyone possibly suggest that Zak Brown is at fault for a Honda situation he inherited and is completely powerless to fix? Especially if you believe resorting to a customer engine deal is out of the question, which is agree with, what possible short term steps can he take? E: You're all aware that Zak Brown doesn't run or control Honda, right? wicka fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Apr 19, 2017 14:48
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wicka posted:How can anyone possibly suggest that Zak Brown is at fault for a Honda situation he inherited and is completely powerless to fix? He's not though (at fault). As you note, he literally inherited the situation and, I'm assuming, each day that passes he learns how much of a poo poo show it *actually* is. To 1500quid's point, they really need to stop being stubborn cunts and just hire a 3rd party to solve the issues...but then again, that's Honda probably being retarded and vetoing it because of their stubborn Japanese mindset when it comes to business.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:52
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He has the ability to put pressure on them. Alonso is the only one doing that.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:54
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GramCracker posted:He's not though (at fault). As you note, he literally inherited the situation and, I'm assuming, each day that passes he learns how much of a poo poo show it *actually* is. To 1500quid's point, they really need to stop being stubborn cunts and just hire a 3rd party to solve the issues...but then again, that's Honda probably being retarded and vetoing it because of their stubborn Japanese mindset when it comes to business. But that's exactly my point - this isn't Zak Brown's issue to solve! He can suggest that they seek outside influence, and almost certainly has, but he has no ability to actually force them to do anything. He has no power here because A. he doesn't loving run Honda B. he can't turn down their money. Human Grand Prix posted:He has the ability to put pressure on them. Alonso is the only one doing that. So you know this for a fact? That Zak Brown has no private interactions with Honda and that everything he says to them is in interviews and over team radio? This is ridiculous and childish and I have no idea where it's coming from.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:53
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wicka posted:But that's exactly my point - this isn't Zak Brown's issue to solve! He can suggest that they seek outside influence, and almost certainly has, but he has no ability to actually force them to do anything. He has no power here because A. he doesn't loving run Honda B. he can't turn down their money. I'm with you dude, I'm not disagreeing that it's technically not his issue to solve. He's probably leveraging his status within McLaren to do his best to remedy the situation but, because he isn't Ron or doesn't have the true personal connections with Honda, poo poo-all is getting done.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:58
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Wirth1000 posted:They're gonna hire back Ron and have him sort it out. This would be totally  Myrddin_Emrys posted:To be fair, Ron is the reason why McLaren are so poo poo right now. He took a gamble with Honda and it didnt pay off. Time to double down on Toyota for the big payout. 
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Apr 19, 2017 14:59
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GramCracker posted:I'm with you dude, I'm not disagreeing that it's technically not his issue to solve. He's probably leveraging his status within McLaren to do his best to remedy the situation but, because he isn't Ron or doesn't have the true personal connections with Honda, poo poo-all is getting done. Oh I know, sorry if that seemed like I was arguing with you. E: Stoffel did 50 laps today without an engine failure! wicka fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Apr 19, 2017 14:59
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wicka posted:Oh I know, sorry if that seemed like I was arguing with you. It's all good, I know you're not. Some real discussion is enjoyable ITT every now and then, as fun as it is to ride the retarded memes in here most of the time.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:04
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Nice meltdowns
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Apr 19, 2017 15:05
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iospace posted:Nice meltdowns You're welcome, just trying to do my public service for the thread.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:07
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Zak Brown is good cuz Nando is in the indy 500 you dummies
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Apr 19, 2017 15:07
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Norns posted:Zak Brown is good cuz Nando is in the indy 500 you dummies I give Alonso most of the credit for realizing they can't really tell him no.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:17
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wicka posted:I give Alonso most of the credit for realizing they can't really tell him no. Ron would have.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:26
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Yeah I suspect Zak Brown had little to do with it since a no just means Alonso leaves and does it anyways. Good on him for getting him to do it in a McLaren livery I guess
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Apr 19, 2017 15:27
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Just zero chance of this happening in a Ron run McLaren team I'd think.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:29
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CratSock posted:Ron would have. Bring Back Big Ron
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Apr 19, 2017 15:30
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Big Ron, Bulldog Boullier, and Wiz Kid Illien working flat out to give McLaren Honda its first win with Nando in Monaco. If only ...
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Apr 19, 2017 15:54
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Someone do one of those Ronposts as if he's denying Alonso's request to drive in the 500. I'm not good at it.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:57
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1500quidporsche posted:Big Ron, Bulldog Boullier, and Wiz Kid Illien working flat out to give McLaren Honda its first win with Nando in Monaco. If only ... They will have two DNFs
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Apr 19, 2017 15:59
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Norns posted:They will have two DNFs Thanks Hack Clown.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:02
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1500quidporsche posted:Big Ron, Bulldog Boullier, and Wiz Kid Illien working flat out to give McLaren Honda its first win with Nando in Monaco. If only ... Also his name would certainly be Super Mario Illien.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:01
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wicka posted:Someone do one of those Ronposts as if he's denying Alonso's request to drive in the 500. I'm not good at it.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:31
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Think I'm going to buy Indy 500 tickets today. I can't imagin being more excited for another one like this.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:41
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Norns posted:Think I'm going to buy Indy 500 tickets today. I've been debating getting general admission tickets or paying more for an actual seat in the stands somewhere.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:45
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Well, look at that! McLaren held together for second day of testing! Things are going to start coming together now with Zak in charge. He's highly respected within and outside of F1, lots of sponsorship connections and very well spoken. He seems genuinely interested in turning the team around and understands that anything right now would be better than that god awful Honda--- including bolting in a customer engine for the next season or two in order to properly flesh out a works deal for a competitive engine. Even if that means going back to Honda down the road but only with proven performance perhaps demonstrated via another team. If you guys didn't know this I ask you to go cvheck out the man's wikipedia page. He's been legit racing in FIA categories since like 1991. He has a racer's instinct and a businessman's acumen. I think McLaren is in very good hands and unlike Williams with Adam Parr (who had no racing experience at all and was literally just 100% wall street gargle my balls), Zak understands what it means to strive to win instead of just making the shareholder's happy which is all Parr was good for. Snake. Also, Motorsport.com owes a great deal to Zak as well when they appointed him to a non-executive position which saw them buy oiut and consolidate a bunch of non-English F1 sites under the Motorsport.com umbrella. This will only serve to strengthen F1's penetration into the zeitgeist of these other nations burgeoning the demand and consumption of Formula 1 and other motorsport categories. He is a treasure and McLaren will strive but for now they must bear the cross of Honda engines. My only sadness is harvested knowing Alonso will not be around to reap the benefits of this relationship and I believe he had an epiphany of such in, no doubt, one of his many sweaty hard-to-sleep nights hence a suicide attempt at the Indy 500 and if he lives through that we'll be seeing him win the 24 hours of Le Mans next year.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:47
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wicka posted:Someone do one of those Ronposts as if he's denying Alonso's request to drive in the 500. I'm not good at it. Big Ron posted:After due consideration into the effort to streamline efficiencies between the McLaren organization and Honda to strengthen the unification of our two companies, and deliver uncompromised success to the McLaren-Honda brand, we will need to subsequently deny Fernando's intrigue to partake in the Indianapolis 500. Our synergistic resources are most effectively leveraged when focused on the primary task at hand, delivering a Grand Prix winning McLaren-Honda package, and simply put, having our preeminent driver participating in an event that does not further the development of said package must be denied at this point in time. Fernando must remain unflinchingly committed to this task and remain passionately engaged in leading the McLaren-Honda partnership to unprecedented returns on investment.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:52
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Only 68 laps? Ferrari fraud status confirmed.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:56
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Holy poo poo. Remember that F4 crash over the weekend? The kid lost both of his legs. https://twitter.com/JHRdevelopments/status/854724495218814976 https://twitter.com/JHRdevelopments/status/854725649633816577
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Apr 19, 2017 17:01
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Oh man that's terrible. 
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Apr 19, 2017 17:06
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When you see his knee come past the wheel in the cockpit...you know it's not going to be good. loving horrible =/
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Apr 19, 2017 17:17
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Yeah that just sucks.
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Apr 19, 2017 17:18
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For fucks sake
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Apr 19, 2017 17:22
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