Kurtofan posted:im french and i never even realized
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 18:06 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Napiwek, so also drinking money. Yet another language where it's the same. Good to know.
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 18:09 |
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The Dutch word for tip, which is 'fooi', doesn't seem related to any of these. So I looked it up. From French 'voie' (which comes from Latin 'via'), meaning road, this word mutated its meaning: road -> farewell meal/drink (see Scots English 'foy') -> farewell gift -> tip.
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 18:18 |
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Is that map saying restaurants in germany accept dollars? That seems odd.
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 18:27 |
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I wonder how the language affects public policy. Like, if the English term was beercash, would that result in people being less likely to tip, destroying the viability of tip based wages?
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 20:43 |
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The Belgian posted:Is that map saying restaurants in germany accept dollars? That seems odd. Yeah I thought it's only third world countries where people are OK with taking foreign currencies
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 21:02 |
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I remember back when McDonald's still thought they could do business in downtown Hesburg, their premiere location right next to the market square accepted USD and SEK as well as FIM or EUR (can't remember which currency was in use here when they realized they can't compete and relegated themselves to gas stations and shopping centres on the outskirts of the city). So yeah Ras Het's theory checks out.
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 21:08 |
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Once I witnessed some tourist with a French accent asking the cashier in a local supermarket whether they accepted euros (the answer was "No"). I thought it was strange that he bothered to ask, given that we are not located on a border with the eurozone and the closest place you could spend them normally would be in Kilpisjärvi, some 160 km away by road.Jerry Cotton posted:I remember back when McDonald's still thought they could do business in downtown Hesburg, their premiere location right next to the market square accepted USD and SEK as well as FIM or EUR (can't remember which currency was in use here when they realized they can't compete and relegated themselves to gas stations and shopping centres on the outskirts of the city). So yeah Ras Het's theory checks out. What, no EEK or RUR? Kopijeger fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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It wasn't in Germany but I saw American tourists in Rome who got super lovely that a restaurant wouldn't take their American cash hahaha.
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 21:23 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Napiwek, so also drinking money. Yeah, but that descriptor also applies to wages
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 21:26 |
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Kopijeger posted:Once I witnessed some tourist with a French accent asking the cashier in a local supermarket whether they accepted euros (the answer was "No"). I thought it was strange that he bothered to ask, given that we are not located on a border with the eurozone and the closest place you could spend them normally would be in Kilpisjärvi, some 160 km away by road. you europhobe fucks is why the world is going to poo poo, KING euros should be able to spend wherever tall and blond and full of pride
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 21:27 |
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Kurtofan posted:you europhobe fucks is why the world is going to poo poo, KING euros should be able to spend wherever Funny man. What could be more kingly than having a currency that is actually called "crown"? quote:tall and blond and full of pride Be tall, blond and full of pride in the Eurozone, if it is not too much to ask.
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 21:39 |
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Kopijeger posted:What, no EEK or RUR?
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 21:46 |
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Kopijeger posted:Funny man. What could be more kingly than having a currency that is actually called "crown"? I convinced a friend of mine to come to Poland with me because the in English, the currency means "gold" so he'll feel like he's playing D&D.
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 21:59 |
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Kopijeger posted:Be tall, blond and full of pride in the Eurozone, if it is not too much to ask.
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 22:05 |
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mojo1701a posted:I convinced a friend of mine to come to Poland with me because the in English, the currency means "gold" so he'll feel like he's playing D&D. Proof Poland is richer than France where money is just called "silver" (argent). Is there a language where it's just "copper"?
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 22:13 |
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Kopijeger posted:Be tall, blond and full of pride in the Eurozone, if it is not too much to ask. im talking about you northling Also more like than not youve got a queen, queenly money is not good Pride is a SIN, from which we euros are absolved, as we are the meek
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 22:57 |
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Cat Mattress posted:Proof Poland is richer than France where money is just called "silver" (argent). To be fair, "argent" means "money", but "złoty" is just the name of the currency. Still, nice one.
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# ? Apr 27, 2017 23:28 |
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argentum is latin for silver.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 00:27 |
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Which is why the "la Plata" > "Argentina" switch is so funny. Someone was feeling fancy. Meanwhile the BBC apparently thinks the correct translation on Rio de la Plata is "river plate."
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 02:28 |
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Duckbag posted:Which is why the "la Plata" > "Argentina" switch is so funny. Someone was feeling fancy. Well, "plate" in English used to be used as a synonym for silver, as well as the other normal meanings. Probably came from French via the same root that made plata in Spanish. So it's not really a mistranslation at all, it's just very archaic.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 02:52 |
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I know that -- it's like how silverware isn't usually silver anymore. Still, there's something peculiarly English about just picking a translation and sticking with it in the face of all good sense. American press mostly just calls it Rio de la Plata. Then again the bbc also spent 8 years calling our president "bear-eck o'bomber," so maybe it's just them.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 03:15 |
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Duckbag posted:Which is why the "la Plata" > "Argentina" switch is so funny. Someone was feeling fancy. britain never really accepted the fact that argentina was not a formal british colony icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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icantfindaname posted:britain never really accepted the fact that argentina was not a formal british colony Greater Falklandia.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 05:33 |
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fishmech posted:Well, "plate" in English used to be used as a synonym for silver, as well as the other normal meanings. Probably came from French via the same root that made plata in Spanish. If the audience doesn’t understand it as it was meant in the original, it’s mistranslation. “Gift” is a word in both English and German. At one time they meant the same thing, but in modern German, “gift” means “poison”. But Rio de la Plata is a place name whose meaning is immaterial, so whatever.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 06:02 |
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Are you sure they're etymologically related? Gif (poison) and gift (gift, but more in the juridical sense) both exist in Dutch. This will give me something to look up on my boring train commute e: oh, I guess they are related.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 06:24 |
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Phlegmish posted:e: oh, I guess they are related.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 06:30 |
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Ah, before we got euros, the Netherlands had the Gulden. Which obviously means 'golden'.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 06:51 |
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 07:02 |
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Hambilderberglar posted:170ish million, out of 1.2 billion plus populations comes out to be about 15%, which is in the 0-20% range I assume at least some of that 170ish million are women, too!
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 07:25 |
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Mr. Belpit posted:I assume at least some of that 170ish million are women, too! Well the Hindus have women as well (though their facebook may lead you to think otherwise) so it balances out. (They don't count women in male circumcision statistics)
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 07:38 |
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Ras Het posted:Yeah I thought it's only third world countries where people are OK with taking foreign currencies the ussr collapsed 26 years ago
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 08:46 |
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stone cold posted:the ussr collapsed 26 years ago And people have been using "third-world" as a euphemism for "super poor" nearly as long.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 08:50 |
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Mr. Belpit posted:And people have been using "third-world" as a euphemism for "super poor" nearly as long. ok but there's eighty different more correct terms to use and we're in the maps thread so like the term went out of date before a lot of posters were born
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 08:53 |
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Yeah, third world is a lovely cold war term, but I'm really not sure "developing nation," or "global south" is any better. The problem isn't so much the label people use as the underlying assumption that all these mostly poor, mostly brown, mostly post-colonial, mostly NAM-affiliated countries are basically the same. I'm not sure what we can do about it, -- the "foreign policy establishment" types seem to love their umbrella terms -- but I don't think any label that lumps India and Mexico into the same category as Malawi and East Timor is actually useful.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 09:08 |
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Cuba is still second world.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 09:08 |
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People like taking foreign currency if they local currency is unstable and bad, or if there are lots of potential customers with foreign currency in the area and they’d lose too much business if they didn’t accept it. If you’re in the third world and people are taking your EUR/USD, you’re either in a tourist trap or a country undergoing an economic crisis. Also, they’re probably overcharging you.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 09:25 |
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Sorry sorry im trying to delete it. I should have said "rough economies"
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 09:46 |
Ras Het posted:Sorry sorry im trying to delete it. I should have said "rough economies"
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In that you don't want to build your house on one.
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