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Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
I'm not sure it counts as a goongret because it was probably one or two people reccomending it but House of the Dying Sun blows. Every single mission is the same thing and you can beat the game in a couple of hours. There is an additional difficulty that strips you of the big ships and leaves you only with fighters but that's just plain annoying. Thank whoever read my refund request because I clocked around 4 hours in the game - trying to see if there was anything more in each difficulty - and they still accepted. Then I got Hollow Knight with that money and everything was right.

What's the opposite of a goongret btw? Because absolutely everyone reccomended me to not get Tales of Zestiria, I got it anyway and it sucked.

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Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Nate RFB posted:

I feel like the punishment for dying in Nier:A is too great for me to want to play on Hard.

I gave the opening tutorial bit an earnest try on Hard the first time I played it and then got rebuffed of that notion very quickly.

The constant dying wouldn't have bothered me if it didn't count as an "ending" and kick you out to have to do it from the start every. loving. time.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Help Im Alive posted:

I'm sorry I couldn't come up with a better word than goongret everyone

Regroont

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

haveblue posted:

Hard is way too hard, every enemy hit takes more than half your health. I can't imagine putting up with it for long enough to find upgrades to alleviate that.

Its good to switch to once you find the upgrades tho

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

corn in the bible posted:

Persona 5 is the best jrpg of all time

It might well be

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Samuringa posted:


What's the opposite of a goongret btw? Because absolutely everyone reccomended me to not get Tales of Zestiria, I got it anyway and it sucked.

I believe that is a self own.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Phantasium posted:

I gave the opening tutorial bit an earnest try on Hard the first time I played it and then got rebuffed of that notion very quickly.

The constant dying wouldn't have bothered me if it didn't count as an "ending" and kick you out to have to do it from the start every. loving. time.

I did the tutorial on normal until I could save and then bumped it up to hard for the rest of the game because of that very problem. Other than that it makes the minute to minute action great

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Samuringa posted:

What's the opposite of a goongret btw? Because absolutely everyone reccomended me to not get Tales of Zestiria, I got it anyway and it sucked.

rebellious teenage angst

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
I like Nier A but I don't like the way difficulty was handled. They made the exact opposite mistake they made in the original. In the original if you played on hard, everything was the same except Ernie's had way too much life. In Nier A the enemies have the same amount of life but can one shot you easily unless you put in a ton of defensive chips and even then they can still one shot you. It sticks because I founders normal became too easy but putting it on hard also want fun. Worst of all, it would have actually been good to give enemies more life this time because you'd actually be able to use the Platinum combo system, which goes to waste when things die in a few hits from anything you do (which, once again, playing on hard doesn't remedy)

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Samuringa posted:

What's the opposite of a goongret btw? Because absolutely everyone reccomended me to not get Tales of Zestiria, I got it anyway and it sucked.

stupidity?

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Samuringa posted:

.

What's the opposite of a goongret btw? Because absolutely everyone reccomended me to not get Tales of Zestiria, I got it anyway and it sucked.

I think it's called being a loving dumbass

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

glam rock hamhock posted:

Stein's Gate is essentially a harem dating game but they actually put care into the writing and characters so it's still actually good and the whole "harem anime" aspect sort of fades to the background and becomes unimportant. Hell, in that game I was really impressed that like two or three of the endings went to extreme lengths to make them make sense within the narrative if you really wanted to end up with a girl that narratively didn't make all that much sense.

Ah yes

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I guess a lot of my regrets come from the days when I would grab stuff off of the shelves of used game stores if it was cheap and looked vaguely interesting without doing any research or knowing about the game at all

Nowadays I watch some gameplay videos to get an idea of what the game is all about and that's served me well.


Another unlucky pick from back in the day- Gladius. I found it to be just mercilessly boring and only played a few hours of it.

Spoderman
Aug 2, 2004

Samuringa posted:

What's the opposite of a goongret btw? Because absolutely everyone reccomended me to not get Tales of Zestiria, I got it anyway and it sucked.

Tales of Zestiria is the only game I ever heard the Taint Reaper say he liked

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



taint reaped again by the mother friggen taint reaper!!

Macarius Wrench
Mar 28, 2017

by Lowtax

In Training posted:

The combat is great if you played on Hard where a single mistake kills you. Makes traversal feel really dangerous and exciting

This sounds fine if you want to spend as much time with the game as possible but doing this would bore me away from playing Nier faster than playing it on easy did. Drop it on easy and get through with as little arsing as possible is what worked for me.

The difficulty in Nier really irritates me though, there isn't any point to it other than to take up more of your time. No achievements tied to it, no change in enemy variety, just the most basic less health less damage. Its lazy particularly from a company that handled difficulty level so well in games like bayonetta or god hand.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
I thought I'd heard that star ocean 5 was good, especially compared to 3 and 4. Did I hear wrong?

Also, this outfit will always make me laugh because lmao at how blatantly fanservice it is.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

Don't judge unless you've played it. Stein's Gate is bizarrly good and honestly is more depressing than being remotely titalating​. It's a good example of how you can take a reprehensible genre and make something good by putting actual effort into it.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Macarius Wrench posted:

This sounds fine if you want to spend as much time with the game as possible but doing this would bore me away from playing Nier faster than playing it on easy did. Drop it on easy and get through with as little arsing as possible is what worked for me.

The difficulty in Nier really irritates me though, there isn't any point to it other than to take up more of your time. No achievements tied to it, no change in enemy variety, just the most basic less health less damage. Its lazy particularly from a company that handled difficulty level so well in games like bayonetta or god hand.

Enemies do have different attacks on Hard and higher

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

I don't really have regrets because I would have bought it anyway but I wish I hadn't paid £40 for that PS4 Godzilla game.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

FirstAidKite posted:

I thought I'd heard that star ocean 5 was good, especially compared to 3 and 4. Did I hear wrong?


I have never heard that it's good. It's not supposed to be as horrifying as 4 but instead it's just a low budget half assed nothing of a game. It's supposed to be the Dragon Age II of the series

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

FirstAidKite posted:

I thought I'd heard that star ocean 5 was good, especially compared to 3 and 4. Did I hear wrong?

Also, this outfit will always make me laugh because lmao at how blatantly fanservice it is.

Whoever said that to you was a criminal

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

I got Nier A yesterday, and it is good. I also started playing FF XIV again this week and it is also good.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Star Ocean 5 is the most hilariously low budget trying to pretend it's not games I've ever played. It's basically a season 1 episode of The Next Generation. And not one of the good ones like when Picard eats some maggots.

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

Star Ocean being a series where you mostly don't spend time in the stars is pretty fuckin dumb.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Sakurazuka posted:

Star Ocean 5 is the most hilariously low budget trying to pretend it's not games I've ever played. It's basically a season 1 episode of The Next Generation. And not one of the good ones like when Picard eats some maggots.

does it have Q

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

Nate RFB posted:

Isn't that crazy Guilty Gear game not cel shaded, but rather 3D models?

idk what hosed up futuristic tech ArcSys uses to create Guilty Gear Xrd but I hope everyone learns it or steals it

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

FirstAidKite posted:

I thought I'd heard that star ocean 5 was good, especially compared to 3 and 4. Did I hear wrong?

Also, this outfit will always make me laugh because lmao at how blatantly fanservice it is.

It's okay but not remarkable, and is insanely budget (it's like an hour before there's a directed cutscene), but 4 is insanely bad so "good compared to 4" means absolutely nothing.

But I also got distracted by games that weren't just "okay" and haven't gone back to beat it so I didn't make it to the actual complaints of that game (one of which being too many escort battles and not being able to skip cutscenes before hard fights in 2016).

MinibarMatchman posted:

idk what hosed up futuristic tech ArcSys uses to create Guilty Gear Xrd but I hope everyone learns it or steals it

There's a GDC panel on it but basically they take a smooth 3D model animation and then cut out in-between frames so it looks hand drawn, because in a sense it is (i.e. they're doing it by hand).

Phantasium fucked around with this message at 17:14 on May 4, 2017

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

eonwe posted:

does it have Q

No

Healbot
Jul 7, 2006

very very very fucjable
very vywr very


Monkey Fracas posted:

It's too late; The Anime is under your skin now

Nooooo

*dons sunglasses*

Moshi moshi, Nyarlathotep desu.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Like to understand Star Ocean 5's budget understand that at one point you're standing on the deck of a spaceship, staring towards the screen next to a guy that is trying to tell you how intense this ship battle is that you can not see for like ten minutes.

It's so epic, just so epic, there are lasers shooting out of our ship and oh no, I think we just got hit so we're shooting the missiles now and...

Spoderman
Aug 2, 2004

Phantasium posted:

Like to understand Star Ocean 5's budget understand that at one point you're standing on the deck of a spaceship, staring towards the screen next to a guy that is trying to tell you how intense this ship battle is that you can not see for like ten minutes.

It's so epic, just so epic, there are lasers shooting out of our ship and oh no, I think we just got hit so we're shooting the missiles now and...

The most frustrating thing about Star Ocean 5 is that they stuck one of the most engaging and interesting video game plots of the past 5 years behind such a low budget development and baffling design decisions.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

No I believe Square got Platinum to help Yoko Taro with that.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

Sakurazuka posted:

Star Ocean 5 is the most hilariously low budget trying to pretend it's not games I've ever played.

Aside from not showing any action, what other kind of funny low budget stuff is there?

Spoderman posted:

The most frustrating thing about Star Ocean 5 is that they stuck one of the most engaging and interesting video game plots of the past 5 years behind such a low budget development and baffling design decisions.

What's the engaging and interesting video game plot

Spoderman
Aug 2, 2004

FirstAidKite posted:

What's the engaging and interesting video game plot

You have to protect your home village with your female childhood friend. Along the way you find a mysterious young woman with amnesia, whose past is shrouded in mystery.

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

What games do amnesia well?

Planescape Torment and...?

GLAAD trash bags
Jan 4, 2015
Final Fantasy 7?

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Sakurazuka posted:

Star Ocean 5 is the most hilariously low budget trying to pretend it's not games I've ever played. It's basically a season 1 episode of The Next Generation. And not one of the good ones like when Picard eats some maggots.

I would play a Star Trek: The Next Generation RPG

Bonus points if they can work the Calm Boardroom Discussions in as a gameplay element of one sort or another

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

FirstAidKite posted:

What's the engaging and interesting video game plot

a big evil bird stole captain toad + toadette's treasure so they gotta go beat it up



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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Jay Rust posted:

What games do amnesia well?

Planescape Torment and...?

The first Witcher game uses it pretty well considering the amnesia only exists as a way to justify exposition to a character that should already know everything, and let them do romance subplots despite said character already having a wife.

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