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Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


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Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY
By the way have we found out who the fascist voyeur thats been buying the AVs is?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Ora Tzo posted:

By the way have we found out who the fascist voyeur thats been buying the AVs is?

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
This is the worst doctor who antagonist yet

G-Spot Run
Jun 28, 2005
Jordies is a shill for sure and it's unfortunate he doesn't consider and sometimes actively spurns the actual left but I appreciate there's someone speaking against liberal bullshit in a way that's aimed at disengaged young people who at least want to be better than their parents.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Ora Tzo posted:

By the way have we found out who the fascist voyeur thats been buying the AVs is?
Is it not enough that we have collectively upset them to the point that they blew a big cash load all over Lowtax?

:toot: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! :toot:

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
There is no sign of respite for the nation's struggling retailers, particularly department stores, as shoppers refuse to spend in the face on an uncertain economy.

The latest retail sales data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed a 0.1 per cent fall in March at the same time as many economists had been tipping a rise.

So now not only are people not buying houses, they aren't buying anything else either. Hmmm.

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
.
I'll post a Mark Latham tiny face if it gets me a UPF avatar.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Lid posted:

There is no sign of respite for the nation's struggling retailers, particularly department stores, as shoppers refuse to spend in the face on an uncertain economy.

The latest retail sales data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed a 0.1 per cent fall in March at the same time as many economists had been tipping a rise.

So now not only are people not buying houses, they aren't buying anything else either. Hmmm.

Jobs and growth?

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

JBP posted:

The only thing wrong with the ad is that they didn't think about the ensuing media beat up.

I love how the ABC thought it was a good way to start leadership spill theories in Labor since Albanese spoke up against the ad.

Kafka Syrup
Apr 29, 2009

starkebn posted:

Qld was trying to have a very similar conversation, about the power of the party to bind elected representatives, at the State Council meeting last weekend. It wasn't pretty.

Even just writing the advice on this was ugly. I'm reallllllly happy I wasn't at State Council Sunday. Just getting the frantic messages was bad enough.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




https://twitter.com/PeterDutton_MP/status/861767699524763648

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Lid posted:

There is no sign of respite for the nation's struggling retailers, particularly department stores, as shoppers refuse to spend in the face on an uncertain economy.

The latest retail sales data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed a 0.1 per cent fall in March at the same time as many economists had been tipping a rise.

So now not only are people not buying houses, they aren't buying anything else either. Hmmm.

Thank gently caress the adults are back in charge

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Bet they wish all those dead people were still spending their 700 stimulus bucks at JB now :smug:

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Budgetchat:

Guardian AU posted:

The government has ruled out any action on negative gearing or capital gains tax concessions, but is reportedly considering introducing a bond aggregator to better fund community housing and allowing first home buyers to use their pre-tax income to purchase a home.

Oh good just what the overheated housing market needs, negative gearing 2: this time it's even more explicitly for the rich!

Kafka Syrup
Apr 29, 2009

hooman posted:

Budgetchat:


Oh good just what the overheated housing market needs, negative gearing 2: this time it's even more explicitly for the rich!

yes, yes we understand housing is "unaffordable" but what about, bear with me here, we make it EVEN MORE expensive?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Can you explain what is meant by using ones pre-tax income to purchase a home? Am I to understand that this means I can contribute to a house savings fund/account and tax deduct it?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

JBP posted:

Can you explain what is meant by using ones pre-tax income to purchase a home? Am I to understand that this means I can contribute to a house savings fund/account and tax deduct it?

Presumably a first home savers account with favourable tax treatment.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

JBP posted:

Can you explain what is meant by using ones pre-tax income to purchase a home? Am I to understand that this means I can contribute to a house savings fund/account and tax deduct it?

It's rumor and scuttlebutt at the moment. No actual details on anything until budget releases.

Just quoted the reporting direct from guardian sorry.

Kafka Syrup
Apr 29, 2009

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Presumably a first home savers account with favourable tax treatment.

its like a reverse HECS, except instead of borrowing money from the government to pay a corporate university, you give money to the government to pay a rich person. everybody wins.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Lid posted:

There is no sign of respite for the nation's struggling retailers, particularly department stores, as shoppers refuse to spend in the face on an uncertain economy.

The latest retail sales data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed a 0.1 per cent fall in March at the same time as many economists had been tipping a rise.

So now not only are people not buying houses, they aren't buying anything else either. Hmmm.

Good thing we can lower interest rates to encourage people to spend!

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Lid posted:

There is no sign of respite for the nation's struggling retailers, particularly department stores, as shoppers refuse to spend in the face on an uncertain economy.

The latest retail sales data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed a 0.1 per cent fall in March at the same time as many economists had been tipping a rise.

So now not only are people not buying houses, they aren't buying anything else either. Hmmm.

couldn't possibly have anything to do with most of the country spending their paycheck on rent/mortgage repayments instead of buying poo poo, could it?

do it on my face
Feb 6, 2005
°
Can someone please sub in Barnaby Joyce's face to the Latham tinyface pic tia

Bogan King
Jan 21, 2013

I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

JBP posted:

Can you explain what is meant by using ones pre-tax income to purchase a home? Am I to understand that this means I can contribute to a house savings fund/account and tax deduct it?

The rumours I've seen suggest first home owners might be able to salary sacrifice pre-tax income into a savings account that can only be used as a deposit. It means you pay less PAYG tax each week rather than claiming it in your tax return. Salary Sacrificing is usually run though a third party company so it also serves as a big handout from first home owners to certain parts of the finance industry.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
anyone know why alan joyce got pied?

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

The rumours I've seen suggest first home owners might be able to salary sacrifice pre-tax income into a savings account that can only be used as a deposit. It means you pay less PAYG tax each week rather than claiming it in your tax return. Salary Sacrificing is usually run though a third party company so it also serves as a big handout from first home owners to certain parts of the finance industry.

so in essence the same effect as letting people spend their superannuation on it?

I guess if your goal is to put off the inevitable bubble bursting until a) you're not in government and b) you and your mates have sold off their investment properties it might be effective

Chadzok
Apr 25, 2002


was he always a russian shill or did they get a pisstape to hold over him as well?

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Chadzok posted:

was he always a russian shill or did they get a pisstape to hold over him as well?

I think the Snowden stuff got him keen on Russia.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Wasn't he a rapid Trump supporter during the US election on the hope that Trump maybe wouldn't go after him? Because lol that's working out well.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

The rumours I've seen suggest first home owners might be able to salary sacrifice pre-tax income into a savings account that can only be used as a deposit. It means you pay less PAYG tax each week rather than claiming it in your tax return. Salary Sacrificing is usually run though a third party company so it also serves as a big handout from first home owners to certain parts of the finance industry.

So I can just live of the money I've saved for a deposit while salary sacrificing 100% of my income resulting in a big bonus from the government to use on a house deposit?

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
ACC makes yet another strong case for being fired into the sun

Guardian AU posted:

The Australian Chamber of Commerce chief executive, James Pearson, believes a return to surplus will at least be put on the radar in the current budget, predicting a path out of deficit within the four-year forward estimates. The Coalition has previously pledged to return the budget to surplus by 2021. Pearson wants to see the budget cut red tape, address ballooning debt (gross debt is expected to reach half a trillion dollars) and focus on quality, sustainable expenditure. He wants government expenditure to be reduced to 25% of GDP.

“It’s got to be sustainable spend, it’s got to be good quality spend,” Pearson told Sky News.

“Recognise that as the workforce is getting smaller in relation to the number of people who depend on government payments ... We’ve got to make sure we don’t strangle that tax base in order to support welfare spending.”

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

gay picnic defence posted:

so in essence the same effect as letting people spend their superannuation on it?

I guess if your goal is to put off the inevitable bubble bursting until a) you're not in government and b) you and your mates have sold off their investment properties it might be effective

It's all speculation at this point so I don't know if the payment would be on top of regular super or instead of it. Either way the effect is to pump up housing prices and transfer more wealth from the young and poor to the old and wealthy.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/AndrewBGreene/status/861838152176029697

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/861839033663500288

https://twitter.com/JamesMcGrathLNP/status/861846188844171264

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Periphery posted:

So I can just live of the money I've saved for a deposit while salary sacrificing 100% of my income resulting in a big bonus from the government to use on a house deposit?

No there will be caps on how much you can deposit each year.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Being able to get a tax break on genuine savings for a house is not the shittest idea ever mooted, particularly considering the government of Australia right now. If I could bank my $500 a month or so like I do now and get tax concessions on it plus interest, I'd be pretty happy with that.

e: that's if I was saving for a house and not to take debauched holidays in third world countries.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

JBP posted:

Being able to get a tax break on genuine savings for a house is not the shittest idea ever mooted, particularly considering the government of Australia right now. If I could bank my $500 a month or so like I do now and get tax concessions on it plus interest, I'd be pretty happy with that.

e: that's if I was saving for a house and not to take debauched holidays in third world countries.

You'll probably just spend it all on smashed avocado you indolent millennial.

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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
I smash me avos at home on the cheap.

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