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starkebn posted:How do you make them accountable though? All I can see is threat of disendorsing them, and that's poo poo for the party. I want the Committee of Management (state exec sort of) to bar them from attending party room meetings and strip them of their media rights and portfolio responsibilities for the duration. Ultimately yes, it's underpinned by the threat of disendorsement. It's poo poo for the party but not as poo poo as having these muppets representing us in public.
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Holy poo poo, is it just a universal rule everywhere that the people who want to be in politics are the worst possible people to be in politics? What the actual gently caress. "We're a grassroots party, lol you selected me now I'm goping to do loving whatever gently caress you." Jesus christ.
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hooman posted:Holy poo poo, is it just a universal rule everywhere that the people who want to be in politics are the worst possible people to be in politics? We don't seem to have a great deal of trouble with our Greens MPs here in WA, just sayin'
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Don Dongington posted:We don't seem to have a great deal of trouble with our Greens MPs here in WA, just sayin' WA best A
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hooman posted:WA best A  
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hooman posted:WA best A
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CrazyTolradi posted:Except for the grumpy old men who pie CEO's that support same sex marriage. Truly, a representation of the average WA'er. Least we don't have weird Christian Fundie Parties in our upper house Unless you include the Nats... Which I guess you should.
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Don Dongington posted:Least we don't have weird Christian Fundie Parties in our upper house
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hooman posted:Holy poo poo, is it just a universal rule everywhere that the people who want to be in politics are the worst possible people to be in politics?
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CrazyTolradi posted:How many state and fed PHON members did you guys vote in again? Well 3 But based on PHON's track record in WA, they'll be independents in about 3 months. Edit: Also our LC is really loving broken with the way it favours the bush. If you look at the LA vs LC breakdown, it's pretty obvious that the nats and most of the PHON councillors are only in the game because of this. Don Dongington fucked around with this message at 08:56 on May 10, 2017 |
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hooman posted:Holy poo poo, is it just a universal rule everywhere that the people who want to be in politics are the worst possible people to be in politics? It's the inevitable result of the Greens becoming large enough that "Greens MP" is a legitimately plausible career track. Justin Field is the most oleaginous careerist hack you can possibly imagine, the ambition oozes off him. NSW has particular issues with it because of the size and relative ease of election to our Legislative Council, and also the fact that Byron Bay exists and is full of the worst people imaginable Don Dongington posted:We don't seem to have a great deal of trouble with our Greens MPs here in WA, just sayin' There's a few reasons for this (although I will say there have been a few issues with WA MPs ignoring policy decisions). NSW local group autonomy is an issue where a lot of the State Council reps are "representing" local groups that are controlled by a small clique of office bearers all factionally aligned to a particular Parliamentary office, which totally fucks SDC decision-making. WA's branches have more state office oversight. It's also a lot harder to get MPs elected, you get less state resources to do it (NSW has the most lucrative state election funding system in the country). There's also the problem where NSW has no particular locus of power, which is great for decentralised decision-making but terrible in terms of having a party body with more power than the party room - WA has the state exec, NSW has three committees which between them are almost a state exec. Also there's the ticket election system - since we elect two or sometimes three MLCs at a go, there's a possibility for substantial political difference between them, where in WA each of your MPs was the head of a different ticket, which means they're more likely to trend roughly to the centre of the state's political alignment.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Why is he wearing no shoes? Hippies don't wear shoes
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thatbastardken posted:in qld we solve the problem of rogue mps by having no mps Then again, change from within Labor might work too.
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Quantum Mechanic posted:At least it's not other states where the deadlock over MP accountability was handily solved by just not having any, lol *sobs in tasmanian*
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hooman posted:Holy poo poo, is it just a universal rule everywhere that the people who want to be in politics are the worst possible people to be in politics? Yes. I did youth parliament in my uh... youth. The adults and the children are one and the same. You spend any time with LNP and Labor MPs up close and informally you realize quickly it's basically private school boys arguing over club rules. You're either into that or you're not. Serving the public? loving lol, that's not what any of it is about. Should be clear, I never went near that place again after doing youth parliament. gently caress that. I don't have a lot of self respect but I have more than that. DancingShade fucked around with this message at 09:29 on May 10, 2017 |
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Bogan King posted:Melbourne seriously upped the public transport game with possums now a feature on trams at night. Still more intelligent than the average myki inspector.
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starkebn posted:http://www.betootaadvocate.com/entertainment/cocaine-dependent-liberal-staffer-says-drug-testing-welfare-recipients-well-overdue/ why not just @ beet next time
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Aesculus posted:The solution is probably to adopt the Queensland method, since Queensland has the best Greens state MPs and no internal drama out of them yet. and by gum we will continue to be the best (worst) branch.
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hooman posted:Holy poo poo, is it just a universal rule everywhere that the people who want to be in politics are the worst possible people to be in politics? "The major problem, or at least one of the major problems, for there are several... one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem."
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Paingod556 posted:"The major problem, or at least one of the major problems, for there are several... one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem." Terms in parliament as an MP/senator should be allocated similar to jury duty imo
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Why is he wearing a suit? Leader of a cult commune.
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tithin posted:why not just @ beet next time if you're talking about twitter, I don't use it I got it from facebook
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starkebn posted:if you're talking about twitter, I don't use it It's a twitter meme, but yeah, it seemed you're very specifically talking about ex-forum poster Matthew Beet
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JBP posted:Very impressed that greens thought political mechanics wouldn't get in there and let er rip. "But that wouldn't happen to us, we're the Greens, we're different!" actual quote I've heard from a Green, it's like they think the ALP have always been poo poo and didn't start out as a progressive movement with the best of intentions nyerf posted:A question for those more versed in parliamentary speak: if a bill's status is "not proceeding" and it's been "discharged from notice paper" does that mean it's dead? I believe so yes
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