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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


waffle posted:

If we're talking about local races now I think Southampton Itchen stands a decent (but not great) chance of being a Labour gain--I wish the local party were focusing on it a little more (they're focused on keeping Southampton Test), but realistically that won't make a big difference in the end. I think because of the UKIP vote it'll prove harder to win than other marginals, if Labour win Itchen they'll likely be a long way towards forming a government.

It was a fair decision to focus on Test a month ago when the outlook was gloomy, but they really should be redeploying to Itchen about now to take it back. The campaign staff in the Southampton Labour party are pretty incompetent though, so it won't happen.

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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Oberleutnant posted:

No he played the original version, but it was the playstation port that took up an entire memory card for one save.

That was good times I remember having to buy a new memory card for that.

I still remember my most profitable line, too. Crossed half the map with a dozen stations, carried everything from passengers to oil. Horrifically inefficient, but I was an idiot child.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Oberleutnant posted:

Imagine Gove all sweaty and bloated and red faced, smacking and licking his lips as he moves in for a damp slobbery kiss.

Sounds like me after I seduce pissflaps

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH

nothing to seehere posted:

It was a fair decision to focus on Test a month ago when the outlook was gloomy, but they really should be redeploying to Itchen about now to take it back. The campaign staff in the Southampton Labour party are pretty incompetent though, so it won't happen.
Hah, indeed. I do console myself with the idea that if we win Itchen (and elsewhere), it'll be because of typical non-voters, which a field campaign wouldn't have targeted anyway.

winegums
Dec 21, 2012


Berious posted:

e: it's quite possible they oust her after the election and put someone even worse in charge

I think this is looking likely regardless. Even if she staves off a labour majority she's shown herself to be utterly useless where it matters. They're already turning on her before the election is done.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

It's difficult to take YouGov's constituency modelling seriously when you see examples of its output such as this:

https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/870301328374935552

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Total Meatlove posted:

Penny Mourdant and Flick Drummond are not the most popular MPs, and the current policy of not being seen at all isn't doing either of them many favours. The majority here last time was slim in Portsmouth South @ 5000 or so, but was complicated by the overall swing to the Tories, the Lib Dems, and Mike Jackson loving a Russian spy on the navy base making 2015s result a little anamolous. Southsea is very much a hippy town and despite the money, I could see it being a Labour gain.

It'd take a much bigger swing to oust Mourdant at about 6 points but the Scottish navy bases bribe still sticks in people's craw and Paulsgrove being abandoned won't help, especially if there's an increased youth turnout.

Fareham would vote for a scarecrow in a blue rosette, and the further north you go towards Petersfield (East Hampshire) from here the worse it gets.

I think the Tories are genuinely worried about losing South again due to the sheer amount of material they're sending. Labour's strategy seems to be "look what the Lib Dems did last time" and sucking up floating voters that way. It's an intriguing race

Paxman
Feb 7, 2010

Jeremy Corbyn posted:

I have a bowl of porridge in the morning. Everybody should do that. You have some sustenance during the day.
You make sure you're reasonably fed and you have a balanced diet.
The other thing is, a lot of people don't understand that dehydration is a problem. They should always drink enough water during the day. I do that.
Tea and coffee are lovely but they don't hydrate you. I think all our viewers must know that.

He's not wrong.

The interview, with all the serious stuff too.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



jabby posted:

For anyone who missed the Corbyn/Starmer/Thornberry/Gardiner tag team today, you can watch it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n6vDftR4Rk

It's a good watch. Corbyn is on good form, and Thornberry and Gardiner are clearly having the time of their loving lives with this campaign. Starmer looks equal parts happy and like he hasn't quite convinced himself it's not all a dream yet.

He never visited my girlfriend in the end :mad:

Also super bummed I couldn't see this today. loving work.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Tea and coffee do hydrate you, you just can't typically drink them in sufficient quantities compared to water or other cold drinks.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Pissflaps posted:

Tea and coffee do hydrate you, you just can't typically drink them in sufficient quantities compared to water or other cold drinks.

This is bad for Corbyn

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I drink about 3l of water a day while at work

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

WeAreTheRomans posted:

This is bad for Corbyn

His fundamental message - that hydration is important - is one that I endorse.

Stay juicy everybody.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

jabby posted:

For anyone who missed the Corbyn/Starmer/Thornberry/Gardiner tag team today, you can watch it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n6vDftR4Rk

It's a good watch. Corbyn is on good form, and Thornberry and Gardiner are clearly having the time of their loving lives with this campaign. Starmer looks equal parts happy and like he hasn't quite convinced himself it's not all a dream yet.

Could anyone tell me a bit more about the people other than Corbyn?

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Pissflaps posted:

Tea and coffee do hydrate you, you just can't typically drink them in sufficient quantities compared to water or other cold drinks.

Typical unforced error from Corbyn and the Labour campaign. Come on!!

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

baka kaba posted:

pigfuckin.gif

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


WeAreTheRomans posted:

This is bad for Corbyn

"If corbyn was prime minister he's going to make water illegal because he spent all the money on the Magic money tree!! If you vote for us we'll merely poison everyone instead" - conservative leaflets

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
drink a herbal infusion to hydrate without overcaffeinating imo

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Honest answer? Spying on political figures is really, really frowned upon in the UK (to the point where the Wilson Doctrine has now been codified in the new Investigatory Powers Act) so they'd have needed some really serious overt evidence of wrongdoing before they even thought of getting involved.

State intelligence services were crawling all over the Labour party back in the 80s or thereabouts because they might have Soviet infiltrators (which tbf they probably did) but oh no when there's rumours about the dodgy foreign connections of a hard-right nationalist party in the modern day then tapping their phones is not the done thing all of a sudden. Wonder why that might be.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Pissflaps posted:

It's difficult to take YouGov's constituency modelling seriously when you see examples of its output such as this:

https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/870301328374935552
It's not claiming to predict every consituency correctly - they obviously didn't have the resources to do a significant sample in every area. Rather it is meant to model the overall result.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Weren't the filth spying on some of the Green Party politicians as recently as a couple of years ago?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Irony Be My Shield posted:

It's not claiming to predict every consituency correctly - they obviously didn't have the resources to do a significant sample in every area. Rather it is meant to model the overall result.

Not sure I agree. The model is based on per-constituency predictions. If these are wrong the whole model falls down.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Pissflaps posted:

Not sure I agree. The model is based on per-constituency predictions. If these are wrong the whole model falls down.

who do you want to see as tory leader if they get the knives out for may after this election?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
I mean if UKIP aren't standing, former UKIP voters are going to Labour in increasingly higher numbers and the Tories lose any voters...

Stranger things have happened.

Edit: Plus Lib Dems being non existent...

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

He's wrong actually, all liquid except liquids that actively dehydrate you like alcohol and saltwater hydrate you.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Oberleutnant posted:

Weren't the filth spying on some of the Green Party politicians as recently as a couple of years ago?

Yes they were under investigation as domestic terrorists.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Jose posted:

who do you want to see as tory leader if they get the knives out for may after this election?

Somebody as bad as May so labour has a chance of winning the next election.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Josef bugman posted:

Could anyone tell me a bit more about the people other than Corbyn?

Gardiner at least is wonderful at having total command of figures and a decent capability for being a bit shouty.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Sapozhnik posted:

State intelligence services were crawling all over the Labour party back in the 80s or thereabouts because they might have Soviet infiltrators (which tbf they probably did) but oh no when there's rumours about the dodgy foreign connections of a hard-right nationalist party in the modern day then tapping their phones is not the done thing all of a sudden. Wonder why that might be.

Pretty sure MI5 were keeping pretty close tabs on some of the top trade union guys as well for similar reasons.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Gonzo McFee posted:

I mean if UKIP aren't standing, former UKIP voters are going to Labour in increasingly higher numbers and the Tories lose any voters...

Stranger things have happened.

Edit: Plus Lib Dems being non existent...

We can look for that result on the night and see how close it is.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

So big fat bloaty megalomaniac decides destroying world is good thing http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40127326

What will be the PM's reaction?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

spectralent posted:

He's wrong actually, all liquid except liquids that actively dehydrate you like alcohol and saltwater hydrate you.

I'm assuming he's referring to the diuretic effect.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

We can look for that result on the night and see how close it is.

Would it not be amazing if we beat them. Would it not be the dugs tits.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

If the methodology is solid some will be wrong in Con favour, others in Lab favour. It should balance out to give a confidence interval for the overall result. It's an interesting approach, and one that I think is worth pursuing because as you've said national vote share is meaningless.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Irony Be My Shield posted:

If the methodology is solid some will be wrong in Con favour, others in Lab favour. It should balance out to give a confidence interval for the overall result. It's an interesting approach, and one that I think it worth pursuing because as you've said national vote share is meaningless.

Yeah, the thing to remember with their model is that the 95% confidence intervals are absolutely massive, so taking the prediction and imagining it will be accurate to within a couple of seats is highly unlikely. I'm much more inclined to trust that the final result will be within the 95% bounds though.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Gonzo McFee posted:

Would it not be amazing if we beat them. Would it not be the dugs tits.

I would love to be proved wrong and see Jeremy Corbyn waving from number 10.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

Yeah, the thing to remember with their model is that the 95% confidence intervals are absolutely massive, so taking the prediction and imagining it will be accurate to within a couple of seats is highly unlikely. I'm much more inclined to trust that the final result will be within the 95% bounds though.

You think the final seat count will be within 95% of what, exactly?

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


According to the projection today, the Tories will be somewhere between 285 and 353 seats. Which is a pretty huge window.

Vlex
Aug 4, 2006
I'd rather be a climbing ape than a big titty angel.



spectralent posted:

He's wrong actually, all liquid except liquids that actively dehydrate you like alcohol and saltwater hydrate you.

And even then, below a certain alcholic content (I want to say below 10%?), alcoholic beverages still hydrate you. Most beers do.

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jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

You think the final seat count will be within 95% of what, exactly?

It's by no means certain, but I'm willing to believe the final result will fall within the 95% confidence interval of YouGov's predictions.

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